Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
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We are open tues thru sat 10 am 'till 7 pm. Sundays and mondays by appt. Just give me a call a day or so before you are gonna be in town and I will schedule you in. We should have our liquor license by then... I hope to have my car back together so we could do consecutive runs; I will try to find the time. Same offer goes for any other cool forum member out there... HPS or not.
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Adjustable FMU's are cool, if you have any trouble with yours check out www.cartech.net for their rising rate regulators - theirs are the best in the business.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
The 1/4mile, dyno and TV show sound great!
I have stock injectors on my car and fuel pump. I do have a Spilt Second Black box (Voltage Clamp). To make more power and make my car run safe, I had the HPS FMU removed and replaced with a Vortec Super FMI that is adjustable. In the very near future I will be adding copper plugs and a KB Boosta Pump. I have a few more things I would like to do but I'm starting to become lazy.
Please let me know when a good time for you will be. Maybe we can set something up.
Mario
I have stock injectors on my car and fuel pump. I do have a Spilt Second Black box (Voltage Clamp). To make more power and make my car run safe, I had the HPS FMU removed and replaced with a Vortec Super FMI that is adjustable. In the very near future I will be adding copper plugs and a KB Boosta Pump. I have a few more things I would like to do but I'm starting to become lazy.
Please let me know when a good time for you will be. Maybe we can set something up.
Mario
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I'm back guys! Tomorrow I am giving Adam one more shot by letting him dyno (max. of 3 pulls) my car tomorrow morning at Mectech.
Whatever the shortage is from the 414whp chart he sent me will be dealt with at that point. That's what he has agreed. Under no circumstances will I allow any further testing and R&D on my car.
I have 4 attorney's in the OC area that specialize in Consumer Fraud that are all chomping at the bit but I want to give HPS one last chance to rectify this situation before I proceed. I've even paid a retainer fee and specialist/expert fees just in case we need to act fast.
If HPS does the right thing then all will be forgotten and forgiven.
Whatever the shortage is from the 414whp chart he sent me will be dealt with at that point. That's what he has agreed. Under no circumstances will I allow any further testing and R&D on my car.
I have 4 attorney's in the OC area that specialize in Consumer Fraud that are all chomping at the bit but I want to give HPS one last chance to rectify this situation before I proceed. I've even paid a retainer fee and specialist/expert fees just in case we need to act fast.
If HPS does the right thing then all will be forgotten and forgiven.
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Originally Posted by BlownS430
Damn this is the best I can get the scan, The file limits for posting really screw this up.... 
304 hp 276to 
304 hp 276to 
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I'm back guys! Tomorrow I am giving Adam one more shot by letting him dyno (max. of 3 pulls) my car tomorrow morning at Mectech.
Whatever the shortage is from the 414whp chart he sent me will be dealt with at that point. That's what he has agreed. Under no circumstances will I allow any further testing and R&D on my car.
I have 4 attorney's in the OC area that specialize in Consumer Fraud that are all chomping at the bit but I want to give HPS one last chance to rectify this situation before I proceed. I've even paid a retainer fee and specialist/expert fees just in case we need to act fast.
If HPS does the right thing then all will be forgotten and forgiven.
Whatever the shortage is from the 414whp chart he sent me will be dealt with at that point. That's what he has agreed. Under no circumstances will I allow any further testing and R&D on my car.
I have 4 attorney's in the OC area that specialize in Consumer Fraud that are all chomping at the bit but I want to give HPS one last chance to rectify this situation before I proceed. I've even paid a retainer fee and specialist/expert fees just in case we need to act fast.
If HPS does the right thing then all will be forgotten and forgiven.
Wow going back for MORE?...Best of LUCK!
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I'm back guys! Tomorrow I am giving Adam one more shot by letting him dyno (max. of 3 pulls) my car tomorrow morning at Mectech.
Whatever the shortage is from the 414whp chart he sent me will be dealt with at that point. That's what he has agreed. Under no circumstances will I allow any further testing and R&D on my car.
I have 4 attorney's in the OC area that specialize in Consumer Fraud that are all chomping at the bit but I want to give HPS one last chance to rectify this situation before I proceed. I've even paid a retainer fee and specialist/expert fees just in case we need to act fast.
If HPS does the right thing then all will be forgotten and forgiven.
Whatever the shortage is from the 414whp chart he sent me will be dealt with at that point. That's what he has agreed. Under no circumstances will I allow any further testing and R&D on my car.
I have 4 attorney's in the OC area that specialize in Consumer Fraud that are all chomping at the bit but I want to give HPS one last chance to rectify this situation before I proceed. I've even paid a retainer fee and specialist/expert fees just in case we need to act fast.
If HPS does the right thing then all will be forgotten and forgiven.
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Originally Posted by BlownS430
The 500 engine I bought turned out to be more fraud like Adam@BrokeBackMoutain
Jessie from Speed Innovation has informed me that software tuning will cost you $10,000. I'm going to make you suffer!
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I just want to add that I am extremely happy with Jesse@SpeedInnovatons. He maximized the output of the HPS blower and the drivability is fantastic. The car accelerates and shifts better than stock with no check-engine lights, no hesitations, etc... but my complaint is that the HPS blower itself does not make the power that was reported to me.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that your car has a $5000+ paperweight? A properly tuned car shouldn't have CEL or transmission problems.
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Originally Posted by pshek
Ah, the saga continues......
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that your car has a $5000+ paperweight? A properly tuned car shouldn't have CEL or transmission problems.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that your car has a $5000+ paperweight? A properly tuned car shouldn't have CEL or transmission problems.
It may be paperweight but I'll deal with that when I settle this once and for all at MechTech tomorrow morning because Adam does thinks Josh R sabotaged my dyno at HOP and the one from Superior Automotive (my secret dyno center) was run in 4th gear.
I will demand a file of this dyno and post the final results for everybody to see (good or bad).
I know that dyno's can be rigged downward (i.e. dragging the brakes, running it wrong gear, turning air conditioning on, etc...) but I heard it is difficult to rigg upwards when viewed instantly on the screen.
Does anybody know how Mechtech can manipulate the numbers to be higher right in front of my eyes? I already know that the correction factor needs to be SAE.
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Originally Posted by BlownS430
I'm no expert but 1 thing they could do is sneak some high octane racing fuel in your tank when your not looking, another would be to pull out your air filters during the dyno run then quickly snap'em back in, More cold air power from those huge fans ect.. There's a ****load of things one could do either way to manipulate the #'s
Your going backwards here you should've never agreed to this, It works both ways Adam@BBM accuses HOP for rigging low results continuously but all that turned up was Josh R. actually uncovered this whole thing and helped you out, If it wasn't for Josh R. You'd be riding around w/dangerouos Air/fuel ratios & BS dyno thinking you had 413 rwhp in reality we know that Dyno was created using photo chop skills in Adams Crock Pot!
They had to call Jesse on board to try and make all there promised gains across the board on every application using injecters, pulleys, ecu, ect.. And after all that they still fell substantialy short.
Give Adam@BBM an inch and he'll...... well we know the rest of that story
Why don't you take a long hard look at Linhs CL55 that has catastrophic failure, It's sitting bottomed out @ Mechtech w/rims touching the fender walls from sitting broken for 3+months due to HPS blower killing his engine.
Think about that for a while because you need to go to a fully independant dyno shop for a 100% true answer going back to Mechtech where this all started makes no sence at all
Good luck man....
Your going backwards here you should've never agreed to this, It works both ways Adam@BBM accuses HOP for rigging low results continuously but all that turned up was Josh R. actually uncovered this whole thing and helped you out, If it wasn't for Josh R. You'd be riding around w/dangerouos Air/fuel ratios & BS dyno thinking you had 413 rwhp in reality we know that Dyno was created using photo chop skills in Adams Crock Pot!
They had to call Jesse on board to try and make all there promised gains across the board on every application using injecters, pulleys, ecu, ect.. And after all that they still fell substantialy short.
Give Adam@BBM an inch and he'll...... well we know the rest of that story
Why don't you take a long hard look at Linhs CL55 that has catastrophic failure, It's sitting bottomed out @ Mechtech w/rims touching the fender walls from sitting broken for 3+months due to HPS blower killing his engine.
Think about that for a while because you need to go to a fully independant dyno shop for a 100% true answer going back to Mechtech where this all started makes no sence at all
Good luck man....
You are probably right but I did go to an independent shop but the guys at Superior Automotive in Anaheim had no clue about European cars. They did'nt even know how to put the car in dyno mode and I had to show them. Then they promptly ran the car in 4th gear which yielded HP numbers in the 350rwhp range but the tq was only in the 320 range. Adam has agreed that if the numbers fall short of the 414rwp he gave me he will settle the difference and I want to hear his final proposal. He knows I will never consent to anymore testing. If Mechtech's numbers are unusually higher than Josh R's then I will pay for one last dyno at a European tuner shop and if the numbers are lower then I will proceed with the lawsuit. I probably won't have much to gain monetarily because I plan on spending over $10-15K just to prove a point about potentially unethical business practices.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
and the one from Superior Automotive (my secret dyno center) was run in 4th gear.
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Originally Posted by BlownS430
If you settle for his pathetic refund of the difference in promised/guaranteed Horsepower, Which will deffinitely be the case you'll in essence have no recourse on suing further, HPS is in dire need of a good *** kicking albeit in Punitive Legal forms, I wish I had 10-15k to throw away I'd do it in a snap'
Adam@BBM is suposedly suing me I'd love to see him try---- I'd turn around and sue him back so fast for all the Malicious deviant slandorous crap he said about me at the Irvine meet last year, It'd criple his precious hps worse than my bad knee Adam joked about.
And yes Adam, I have saved all the private messages on the matter from other forum members who told me what you were saying last year.
Adam@BBM is suposedly suing me I'd love to see him try---- I'd turn around and sue him back so fast for all the Malicious deviant slandorous crap he said about me at the Irvine meet last year, It'd criple his precious hps worse than my bad knee Adam joked about.
And yes Adam, I have saved all the private messages on the matter from other forum members who told me what you were saying last year.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
The CEL and transmisssion problems have dissapeared since the smaller pully was removed and Jesse retuned it.
It may be paperweight but I'll deal with that when I settle this once and for all at MechTech tomorrow morning because Adam does thinks Josh R sabotaged my dyno at HOP and the one from Superior Automotive (my secret dyno center) was run in 4th gear.
I will demand a file of this dyno and post the final results for everybody to see (good or bad).
I know that dyno's can be rigged downward (i.e. dragging the brakes, running it wrong gear, turning air conditioning on, etc...) but I heard it is difficult to rigg upwards when viewed instantly on the screen.
Does anybody know how Mechtech can manipulate the numbers to be higher right in front of my eyes? I already know that the correction factor needs to be SAE.
It may be paperweight but I'll deal with that when I settle this once and for all at MechTech tomorrow morning because Adam does thinks Josh R sabotaged my dyno at HOP and the one from Superior Automotive (my secret dyno center) was run in 4th gear.
I will demand a file of this dyno and post the final results for everybody to see (good or bad).
I know that dyno's can be rigged downward (i.e. dragging the brakes, running it wrong gear, turning air conditioning on, etc...) but I heard it is difficult to rigg upwards when viewed instantly on the screen.
Does anybody know how Mechtech can manipulate the numbers to be higher right in front of my eyes? I already know that the correction factor needs to be SAE.
Get rid of that kit and get a Kleeman kit. I wouldn't be surprised if your engine blows up in the future just like Linh's CL55 AMG engine. Then you'd be blacklisted by every MB dealer for the crazy (unsafe) mods on your car.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Jesse called me today and told me I had no chance of getting near 413whp so I just want everybody at HPS to see it for themselves. I WAS thinking of taking the difference and then selling the unit and buying a Kleemann but now you got me thinking again about the the principal of settling. What about all the other owners who were even less fortunate? (Linh, Brandon, You, Eric, etc..etc...). I don't really want to sell out....
This **** has gone too far and you've probably lost warranty on the most important / expensive parts of your car.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
It may be paperweight but I'll deal with that when I settle this once and for all at MechTech tomorrow morning because Adam does thinks Josh R sabotaged my dyno at HOP and the one from Superior Automotive (my secret dyno center) was run in 4th gear.
After all of this, it's a little funny/sad that you're still dealing with HPS. You're constantly giving them "one more chance" when it's quite obvious (from fraudulent dyno graphs, R&Ding on your car, blown up motors, etc.) that they can't make this right. Take them to court, get your money back, and put on a system that works. You could have bought 2 Kleemann systems for the money you've spent already...
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Dyno Results
Here is the chart of the latest dyno. They still can't stop it from downshifting but the Gen III due out shortly that they want to install in my car for free will solve this problem and put down 450+rwhp according to their claims. The Gen III will have the newest Magnuson Blower, Superior Intercoolers, pumps, software upgrades and FMU from AEM, etc...Should I trust them?
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Should I trust them?
They claimed over 400rwhp with this one, and also claimed that their materials were second to none (I'm sure you've seen that this was not the case).
What car have they R&D'd this new Gen III on where they can pull these numbers? Or is yours going to be the mule again? Sorry to be the one to tell you but you're getting fed some grade A horse ****. I guess they're just trying to keep you from being another person that names them in the upcoming lawsuit by promising you free garbage lol.
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Originally Posted by Josh K
Man, I tell you it's like beating a dead horse. 
They claimed over 400rwhp with this one, and also claimed that their materials were second to none (I'm sure you've seen that this was not the case).
What car have they R&D'd this new Gen III on where they can pull these numbers? Or is yours going to be the mule again? Sorry to be the one to tell you but you're getting fed some grade A horse ****. I guess they're just trying to keep you from being another person that names them in the upcoming lawsuit by promising you free garbage lol.
They claimed over 400rwhp with this one, and also claimed that their materials were second to none (I'm sure you've seen that this was not the case).
What car have they R&D'd this new Gen III on where they can pull these numbers? Or is yours going to be the mule again? Sorry to be the one to tell you but you're getting fed some grade A horse ****. I guess they're just trying to keep you from being another person that names them in the upcoming lawsuit by promising you free garbage lol.
I saw them with an Engineer from AEM working on their house CLK500 yesterday when I had the dyno done. I'm going to ask them to put everything in writing and also that my engine, tranny and entire car will be covered if anything goes wrong. Else it's no deal!
I just don't get how these latest dyno results are so much better than the dyno's done at HoP. Can two practically identical model dynojet mechines give such radically different results? I did not make a single change to the the car between the two separate dyno's.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I saw them with an Engineer from AEM working on their house CLK500 yesterday when I had the dyno done. I'm going to ask them to put everything in writing and also that my engine, tranny and entire car will be covered if anything goes wrong. Else it's no deal!
I just don't get how these latest dyno results are so much better than the dyno's done at HoP. Can two practically identical model dynojet mechines give such radically different results? I did not make a single change to the the car between the two separate dyno's.
I just don't get how these latest dyno results are so much better than the dyno's done at HoP. Can two practically identical model dynojet mechines give such radically different results? I did not make a single change to the the car between the two separate dyno's.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
I heard you have a dyno to be proud of. What was done to get this power? Are still running the larger pulley? Please post ASAP.
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