you didn't answer my question about topless? or even acknowledge me giveing you props?
Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
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Thanks Linh for putting up the Pics. Your ride is real CLASS! My ride is more Brute Force.
Looks like there is still a little rubbing in the rear left so I have to get the Cambar kit as well as a set of Sway bars. Let me know what kind of pricing your buddy can get them for. I got quoted $150 to machine the H&R 10mil spacers you gave me. I think you can get it done cheaper.
Looks like there is still a little rubbing in the rear left so I have to get the Cambar kit as well as a set of Sway bars. Let me know what kind of pricing your buddy can get them for. I got quoted $150 to machine the H&R 10mil spacers you gave me. I think you can get it done cheaper.
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That's what I thought but the car was on a lift at the alignment shop when they tried alter the camber. They also showed me the gap difference. I can slip two fingers between the right side fender but not even 1 finger between the left side fender.
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not really. When you get inside the wheel well and measure the fitments relative to the body you quickly see that most cars are not built evenly. It is normal to have an uneven car but most cars seem to have more rubbing on the drivers side. I can fill the truck to the gills and stick 4 tires and more stuff in the back seat to go to a track event and the car only makes slight rubbing under FULL compression on the drivers side. At that point the entire rear of the car is hitting bump stop so its not a matter of drivers big butt 
Also Rob sway bars wont do ANYthing to stop rubbing. Thats one of the funnier things I have come across but its a bunch of hokey. The camber could fix it but you will need speedybenz camber links, rear renntech subframe upgrades, or a set of K-mac bushings to chance camber on the rar axle.
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Also Rob sway bars wont do ANYthing to stop rubbing. Thats one of the funnier things I have come across but its a bunch of hokey. The camber could fix it but you will need speedybenz camber links, rear renntech subframe upgrades, or a set of K-mac bushings to chance camber on the rar axle.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
What are the affects of not having a level car (balance, handling,etc..) other than any noticeable visual differences?
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i had this problem before I had to grind some plastic parts from the bumper and the black linning inside. if you remove the tire you will see where it is rubbing. what size tires your using?
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Is there any way this could be some previously unseen damage that occurred when you lost that wheel?
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BTW...My drive belt broke off while I was doing 80mph on the 57fwy N at 9pm after leaving work. Steering wheel locked up after the alternator shut down. Turns out the SC idler pulley siezed up and burned up my belt. Man was that scary.
Got the car towed to my house for $81 and another $350 to tow it down to Mechtech in Escondido. You see how the costs just keep adding up? I bought the belt online for $55 but now I need to buy more parts like the idler pulley, etc..plus labor. I am now ready to swap out the SC for a TT!! Now I'm in a rental again for up to 2 weeks or more if I go with a TT setup.
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Possible...Good observation. I'll look into that.
BTW...My drive belt broke off while I was doing 80mph on the 57fwy N at 9pm after leaving work. Steering wheel locked up after the alternator shut down. Turns out the SC idler pulley siezed up and burned up my belt. Man was that scary. Got the car towed to my house for $81 and another $350 to tow it down to Mechtech in Escondido. You see how the costs just keep adding up? I bought the belt online for $55 but now I need to buy more parts like the idler pulley, etc..plus labor. I am now ready to swap out the SC for a TT!! Now I'm in a rental again for up to 2 weeks or more if I go with a TT setup.
BTW...My drive belt broke off while I was doing 80mph on the 57fwy N at 9pm after leaving work. Steering wheel locked up after the alternator shut down. Turns out the SC idler pulley siezed up and burned up my belt. Man was that scary.
Got the car towed to my house for $81 and another $350 to tow it down to Mechtech in Escondido. You see how the costs just keep adding up? I bought the belt online for $55 but now I need to buy more parts like the idler pulley, etc..plus labor. I am now ready to swap out the SC for a TT!! Now I'm in a rental again for up to 2 weeks or more if I go with a TT setup. It doesn't sound like normal wear n' tear?
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If HPS's choice of blower is such a poor one, then can someone explain why Kleemann is now utilizing the same Magnuson MP112 in their newly designed Supercharger System?
Mind you, there are quite a few obvious structural differences between them. And Im sure Kleemanns programming is a bit more studdied and avanced, but the heart of the system is identical.
Now, I acknoledge that HPS has had some technical issues when first introducing their system. But it does comfort me alot more now that one of the biggest MB tuners just decided to share the same company's Supercharger in thier units as well.
I've posted pics of their recently re designed system with a link to Kleemann's site.
http://kleemann.dk/site/567EE3BB-6D0..._name=newsitem
Mind you, there are quite a few obvious structural differences between them. And Im sure Kleemanns programming is a bit more studdied and avanced, but the heart of the system is identical.
Now, I acknoledge that HPS has had some technical issues when first introducing their system. But it does comfort me alot more now that one of the biggest MB tuners just decided to share the same company's Supercharger in thier units as well.
I've posted pics of their recently re designed system with a link to Kleemann's site.
http://kleemann.dk/site/567EE3BB-6D0..._name=newsitem
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Maybe i missed it but where exactly did you read or got the idea Kleemann is utilizing the Mag MP112?
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If HPS's choice of blower is such a poor one, then can someone explain why Kleemann is now utilizing the same Magnuson MP112 in their newly designed Supercharger System?
Mind you, there are quite a few obvious structural differences between them. And Im sure Kleemanns programming is a bit more studdied and avanced, but the heart of the system is identical.
Now, I acknoledge that HPS has had some technical issues when first introducing their system. But it does comfort me alot more now that one of the biggest MB tuners just decided to share the same company's Supercharger in thier units as well.
I've posted pics of their recently re designed system with a link to Kleemann's site.
http://kleemann.dk/site/567EE3BB-6D0..._name=newsitem
Mind you, there are quite a few obvious structural differences between them. And Im sure Kleemanns programming is a bit more studdied and avanced, but the heart of the system is identical.
Now, I acknoledge that HPS has had some technical issues when first introducing their system. But it does comfort me alot more now that one of the biggest MB tuners just decided to share the same company's Supercharger in thier units as well.
I've posted pics of their recently re designed system with a link to Kleemann's site.
http://kleemann.dk/site/567EE3BB-6D0..._name=newsitem
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JamE55, my brother in law, who lives in Greece, called Kleemann in Germany and theyre the ones who told him they are now using a magnuson supercharger in their new system.
Thericker, their application list will obviously be different because their new system is designed for the new 2007 550 motors, whereas HPS's was designed for the M113 engine.
Your right about Kleemann having greater power up in the higher rpms. Personally, I do most of my driving in the 2500-4500rpms, so having the power down low was my preference. Thus my decision was made easier by going with HPS's design. If Kleemann was using this type of blower before, then it might have been a different story.
I think kleemann products are totaly awsome, and I'm glad that their using the same blower that I have currenlty installed. Like I said before, it gives me peice of mind.
Thericker, their application list will obviously be different because their new system is designed for the new 2007 550 motors, whereas HPS's was designed for the M113 engine.
Your right about Kleemann having greater power up in the higher rpms. Personally, I do most of my driving in the 2500-4500rpms, so having the power down low was my preference. Thus my decision was made easier by going with HPS's design. If Kleemann was using this type of blower before, then it might have been a different story.
I think kleemann products are totaly awsome, and I'm glad that their using the same blower that I have currenlty installed. Like I said before, it gives me peice of mind.
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Finally MT agreed to proceed with the project to build me a MechTech SC Kit that comes with the new MP122H blower, 75mm throttle body and custom reflashed ECU instead of SI's chip tuning.
They will heavily subsidize the development costs and my out-of-pocket upgrade costs will be minimal. Jim is confident it will be more powerful than the new Kleemann kits but we shall see. If this kit is successful then MT will make it commercial.
I'm glad Jim is willing to take the initiative that HPS refused. I will refraim from posting daily or weekly until the entire project is completed and the kit is fully tried and tested to work reliably and with the estimated power gain of 75-100rwhp more than the Gen II. Hopefully this kit will push me over the 485rwhp mark! The project is slated to start once the blower comes in next week.
They will heavily subsidize the development costs and my out-of-pocket upgrade costs will be minimal. Jim is confident it will be more powerful than the new Kleemann kits but we shall see. If this kit is successful then MT will make it commercial.
I'm glad Jim is willing to take the initiative that HPS refused. I will refraim from posting daily or weekly until the entire project is completed and the kit is fully tried and tested to work reliably and with the estimated power gain of 75-100rwhp more than the Gen II. Hopefully this kit will push me over the 485rwhp mark! The project is slated to start once the blower comes in next week.
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So please elaborate? did the blower fail as Vadim predicted?
Finally MT agreed to proceed with the project to build me a MechTech SC Kit that comes with the new MP122H blower, 75mm throttle body and custom reflashed ECU instead of SI's chip tuning.
They will heavily subsidize the development costs and my out-of-pocket upgrade costs will be minimal. Jim is confident it will be more powerful than the new Kleemann kits but we shall see. If this kit is successful then MT will make it commercial.
I'm glad Jim is willing to take the initiative that HPS refused. I will refraim from posting daily or weekly until the entire project is completed and the kit is fully tried and tested to work reliably and with the estimated power gain of 75-100rwhp more than the Gen II. Hopefully this kit will push me over the 485rwhp mark! The project is slated to start once the blower comes in next week.
They will heavily subsidize the development costs and my out-of-pocket upgrade costs will be minimal. Jim is confident it will be more powerful than the new Kleemann kits but we shall see. If this kit is successful then MT will make it commercial.
I'm glad Jim is willing to take the initiative that HPS refused. I will refraim from posting daily or weekly until the entire project is completed and the kit is fully tried and tested to work reliably and with the estimated power gain of 75-100rwhp more than the Gen II. Hopefully this kit will push me over the 485rwhp mark! The project is slated to start once the blower comes in next week.
Good luck w/mp122 don't say I didn't warn you, they have scrapped the devlopment for Vette applications, due to bigger MP122 making LESS hp torque, than mp112, also are you getting a CARB certification w/this install?
I seriously doubt you'll be able to ever pass the sniffer...Once again good luck!
I admire your tireless dedication to this project! But there is a point of diminishing returns, I believe you've passed it, why not go w/Jessies TT project? Or OVERLY proven Kleeman application?
Edit: The MP122 was designed for the LS2 or whatever application, to boost motors further that have internal Heads, Cam, etc.. Modifications, and found thru extensive testing to produce zero extra power on an otherwise stock application w/MP112, and infact made less hp w/equally modded MP112 LS2 engine. Go look it up on Corvetteforum.com
Just trying to prevent you from further disapointments
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The reason that Kleemann went with Eaton blower has to do with Autorotor going out of business.
On M273 application, with it's significatly better flowing 4-valve heads vs. 3-valve heads of M112/113 and running only 4-6 psi, both deisgns would be very close in efficiency. At higher boost level, is where Lysholm exceeds Eaton.
On M273 application, with it's significatly better flowing 4-valve heads vs. 3-valve heads of M112/113 and running only 4-6 psi, both deisgns would be very close in efficiency. At higher boost level, is where Lysholm exceeds Eaton.
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Why didn't they contact Whipple and get the twin screw blowers through Whipple Industries?
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/....asp?PageID=80
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1162
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1208
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...essrelease.pdf
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/....asp?PageID=80
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1162
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1208
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...essrelease.pdf
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What happened to the Gen II? sounds like it seized from your previous description?
Good luck w/mp122 don't say I didn't warn you, they have scrapped the devlopment for Vette applications, due to bigger MP122 making LESS hp torque, than mp112, also are you getting a CARB certification w/this install?
I seriously doubt you'll be able to ever pass the sniffer...Once again good luck! I admire your tireless dedication to this project!
But there is a point of diminishing returns, I believe you've passed it, why not go w/Jessies TT project? Or OVERLY proven Kleeman application?
Edit: The MP122 was designed for the LS2 or whatever application, to boost motors further that have internal Heads, Cam, etc.. Modifications, and found thru extensive testing to produce zero extra power on an otherwise stock application w/MP112, and infact made less hp w/equally modded MP112 LS2 engine. Go look it up on Corvetteforum.com
Just trying to prevent you from further disapointments
Good luck w/mp122 don't say I didn't warn you, they have scrapped the devlopment for Vette applications, due to bigger MP122 making LESS hp torque, than mp112, also are you getting a CARB certification w/this install?
I seriously doubt you'll be able to ever pass the sniffer...Once again good luck!
I admire your tireless dedication to this project! But there is a point of diminishing returns, I believe you've passed it, why not go w/Jessies TT project? Or OVERLY proven Kleeman application?
Edit: The MP122 was designed for the LS2 or whatever application, to boost motors further that have internal Heads, Cam, etc.. Modifications, and found thru extensive testing to produce zero extra power on an otherwise stock application w/MP112, and infact made less hp w/equally modded MP112 LS2 engine. Go look it up on Corvetteforum.com
Just trying to prevent you from further disapointments
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The stock tensioner melted off from the Sprintbooster putting so much stress on it according to Jim so I'm selling it to the highest bidder on this forum. Parts costs me $408+tax, Labor $335 and Tow $350 = total of $1130 plus 2 weeks of rental. I guess when you play you pay.
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The use of the existing Carb certification is what made me go this route. For the cost of removing the Gen II I would get in essense a "Gen III" fully installed and tested. BTW....Check the Kleemann official website. They are using the MP122 also in their new kits. I asked Jim about the Autorotor or IHI Twin-Screws that Kleemann and Renntech used in their original kits but the blower footprint and configuration is too different from the MP112. I compared the MP112 to the MP122H and they are VERY different. The MP122H rotors are much more twisted, inlet and outlet are MUCH bigger...Are you sure it was the "H" model of the MP122 that was aborted on the Vette Kits?
