Beat a Z06? Is this possible?
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Beat a Z06? Is this possible?
Hey guys. I wanted some input on this. I have C32 with some minor mods. (SL55 intake, green filters, and resonator delete.) Recently, I was on the freeway when I came across a 2002 Z06. The car sounded really mean, and obviously had aftermarket exhaust. He was revving the motor, like american muscle guys like to do, so I thought "what the hell?!" I really planned on getting blasted.
I got next to him and gave him a head nod. He was all to eager to go. He down shifted and hit the gas hard at about 60mph. I hit it. Because he hit the gas first, I was behind him when I hit the gas. (Only about 10 feet.) Well, that's where I stayed!!!! He didn't gain a bit of ground on me!! Not a foot!! We stayed on the gas from 60mph all the way to 140mph!!! He was as shocked as I was, and pulled next to me long enough to take a look and say "that thing f@!%&ing moves!!!"
Anyone else have this happen? I didn't think these were that fast! Is it possible that I have a mod I'm not aware of? Either way, it was SWEET!!!
I can't wait to get this bad boy built, then it's on!!!!
I got next to him and gave him a head nod. He was all to eager to go. He down shifted and hit the gas hard at about 60mph. I hit it. Because he hit the gas first, I was behind him when I hit the gas. (Only about 10 feet.) Well, that's where I stayed!!!! He didn't gain a bit of ground on me!! Not a foot!! We stayed on the gas from 60mph all the way to 140mph!!! He was as shocked as I was, and pulled next to me long enough to take a look and say "that thing f@!%&ing moves!!!"
Anyone else have this happen? I didn't think these were that fast! Is it possible that I have a mod I'm not aware of? Either way, it was SWEET!!!
I can't wait to get this bad boy built, then it's on!!!!
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Originally Posted by 2QUIK4U
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but there is absolutely no way you beat a 06 Z06 with a C32 (even if your C32 is modded). 
Even though I think he wants to make it sound like it was a new one....re-read his post, he put 2002 Zo6
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
A C32 with, pulleys, ECU, headers, filters exhaust still cant beat a stock Z06 if the Z06 drive can drive correctly.
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Originally Posted by KompressorKev
even 01 385hp z06? some renntech pulley/ecu cars (no headers) are running mid-high 12's at traps around 110mph. i've heard of a few evo stage II cars run 380rwhp and even more torque. i realize z06 is 3175 pounds and c32 is 3540, but i think if you do a 40mph start, c32 has advantage. gearing wise, the c32 finishes first gear at 38 mph, z06 ends at 48mph. both should start in 2nd gear, where z06 has disadvantage. otherwise, the z06 and c32 are closely matched in gearing so there's not much advantage to be had. 02 i don't think i can beat but i will run one when i install my pullies and get ecu tuned just for fun. i'm not saying i think i can easily beat an 01, but i don't think it's impossible from a roll.
2001, ok, i always forget that car did not have 405hp. I am not to fimilar with that year Z06. So am unsure what it capable of. But i know the 2002+ Z06 can asily run low 12's or even a 12.0. Which a Highly modified C32 really doesn't do. I remember seeing this one test from GM showing a stock 2002+ Z06 running 11.9X. Of coure it was a professional driver though. But if any case a C32 beats a 02+ Z06 the driver is not driving that car correctly to use its full potential. Don't get me wrong though, it is VERY common to come by that kind of driver on the steet or track. I think if a C230 tried racing me in my Viper now he would win since still need lot of practice with this car.
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
2001, ok, i always forget that car did not have 405hp. I am not to fimilar with that year Z06. So am unsure what it capable of. But i know the 2002+ Z06 can asily run low 12's or even a 12.0. Which a Highly modified C32 really doesn't do. I remember seeing this one test from GM showing a stock 2002+ Z06 running 11.9X. Of coure it was a professional driver though. But if any case a C32 beats a 02+ Z06 the driver is not driving that car correctly to use its full potential. Don't get me wrong though, it is VERY common to come by that kind of driver on the steet or track. I think if a C230 tried racing me in my Viper now he would win since still need lot of practice with this car.
your srt-10 vs a c230? hehe you could probably be in two gears higher than you should and still pull. srt-10 must be a blast, they trap close to 120mph right? my neighbor has one, i rode in his old gen I and gen II rt-10's and they were very powerful (i was like 10 years old at the time tho haha) but nonethelss, the SRT-10 is badass man
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I understand that the Z06 is a much faster car off of the line. That's why I thought that the Z06 would trash me. Of course, a race from 60-140 is a different matter. I'm not saying "what if", I'm saying "I did". The guy in the Z06 was on the car hard. I'm sure that driving is something to do with it, and I can drive. I doubt driving has as much to do with it at the speeds we were racing. For one thing, there's no launch involved.
Has anyone else tried to race a Z06 on the freeway?
Has anyone else tried to race a Z06 on the freeway?
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Originally Posted by KompressorKev
yea 01's are quick but not as fast as 02's. 06's are in a completely another league, SLR competitor. i don't mean to be a bench racer, but magazines tested the 01 z06 aroudn high-12's to low-13's at about 110-112mph. definitely within the territory of a modded c32. 02 z06 i really don't think i can win, but i will try anyway.
your srt-10 vs a c230? hehe you could probably be in two gears higher than you should and still pull. srt-10 must be a blast, they trap close to 120mph right? my neighbor has one, i rode in his old gen I and gen II rt-10's and they were very powerful (i was like 10 years old at the time tho haha) but nonethelss, the SRT-10 is badass man
your srt-10 vs a c230? hehe you could probably be in two gears higher than you should and still pull. srt-10 must be a blast, they trap close to 120mph right? my neighbor has one, i rode in his old gen I and gen II rt-10's and they were very powerful (i was like 10 years old at the time tho haha) but nonethelss, the SRT-10 is badass man
The Viper is a blast! I didn't drive it over the weekend and got in the car on Monday and seriously could not get the smile off my face for about 20 minutes.
It just feels like I am driving a race car. From the sound, the seats, and the speed its just plain fun. I still am shocked I got the car, personally, I always hated American cars and still do, lol. But the viper is an exception. I thought I had trouble with my C55 launching, but this thing seems impossible!
Even when I shift to 2nd I really have a tough time keeping the car straight since there is so much wheel spin. You gotta love no traction control!Road and track got a trap speed of 119.93mph and I think there have been others magazines or tests that's got just a bit over 120mph.
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shifting takes a bit more precision than driving an auto... therefore anything is possible when performance of the 2 cars are close to each other.
I say 8 out of 10 times the stock C5 z06 will beat a lightly modded or even a stage 1 C32 or C55. I will up to the driver of the z06, but with an average driver those things are mid 12's all day.
With a above average driver and stage 1 or 2 C32, you could run 12.7 + about 109 trap speed..
now a C6 Z06 its just plain FAST!...you will need 65 TT motor for that.. or 55k with atleast Stage 2 mods..
I would not call it a kill...but a nice representation of a C32.
I say 8 out of 10 times the stock C5 z06 will beat a lightly modded or even a stage 1 C32 or C55. I will up to the driver of the z06, but with an average driver those things are mid 12's all day.
With a above average driver and stage 1 or 2 C32, you could run 12.7 + about 109 trap speed..
now a C6 Z06 its just plain FAST!...you will need 65 TT motor for that.. or 55k with atleast Stage 2 mods..
I would not call it a kill...but a nice representation of a C32.
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
Yeah, it sounds like a 2001 Z06 vs a C32 should be a good race then.
The Viper is a blast! I didn't drive it over the weekend and got in the car on Monday and seriously could not get the smile off my face for about 20 minutes. It just feels like I am driving a race car. From the sound, the seats, and the speed its just plain fun. I still am shocked I got the car, personally, I always hated American cars and still do, lol. But the viper is an exception. I thought I had trouble with my C55 launching, but this thing seems impossible! Even when I shift to 2nd I really have a tough time keeping the car straight since there is so much wheel spin. You gotta love no traction control!
Road and track got a trap speed of 119.93mph and I think there have been others magazines or tests that's got just a bit over 120mph.
The Viper is a blast! I didn't drive it over the weekend and got in the car on Monday and seriously could not get the smile off my face for about 20 minutes.
It just feels like I am driving a race car. From the sound, the seats, and the speed its just plain fun. I still am shocked I got the car, personally, I always hated American cars and still do, lol. But the viper is an exception. I thought I had trouble with my C55 launching, but this thing seems impossible! Even when I shift to 2nd I really have a tough time keeping the car straight since there is so much wheel spin. You gotta love no traction control!Road and track got a trap speed of 119.93mph and I think there have been others magazines or tests that's got just a bit over 120mph.
Oh... and C6 Z06's arent that fast!!! I didnt get to watch it, but my dad saw a supercharged Cobra (about 80 less hp than my ours) beat a C6 Z06 twice. Although granted we were told with the current setup on our car and a pro driver we could dip into the 9s on the 1/4 mile! No more tracks on LI so havent gotten a chance to take it to one.
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Originally Posted by Benzinsider
I understand that the Z06 is a much faster car off of the line. That's why I thought that the Z06 would trash me. Of course, a race from 60-140 is a different matter. I'm not saying "what if", I'm saying "I did". The guy in the Z06 was on the car hard. I'm sure that driving is something to do with it, and I can drive. I doubt driving has as much to do with it at the speeds we were racing. For one thing, there's no launch involved.
Has anyone else tried to race a Z06 on the freeway?
Has anyone else tried to race a Z06 on the freeway?
That is the only possible way you would have kept up with an '02 Z06. From a dig. From a 30-punch. From a 60-punch. You will lose every time if the Z driver is at all competant.
I drove an '02 Z06 and almost bought it, instead of the C32 I got. They are mean...very mean. It's in a completely different league than the C. It's all performance and nothing else (which is why I didn't end up getting it).
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Originally Posted by Capt Nemo o2
Oh... and C6 Z06's arent that fast!!! I didnt get to watch it, but my dad saw a supercharged Cobra (about 80 less hp than my ours) beat a C6 Z06 twice. Although granted we were told with the current setup on our car and a pro driver we could dip into the 9s on the 1/4 mile! No more tracks on LI so havent gotten a chance to take it to one.
If your measure of "fast" is running 10's or less on a drag strip - not much out there is fast from the factory that costs less than $150k
Besides that - the C6 Z would be a waste as a drag car. It's meant for real racing
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I am not surprised that you hung in there with a 2002 Z06. I have a Corvette (non-Z06) and a C55 and do a lot of road racing (non-competitive) with a couple clubs that I am in. The Vettes are great on the low end but run out of steam easily above 90 mph. This is even true with the Z06--not the 2005 mind you but with the 2002 it is. On the road courses, above 80 or 90 mph, it is difficult to pass a Honda 2002 due to this. As an aside, I "toyed" with a 2003 Z06 on a road in northern California with my C55 a couple of months ago and he never lost me. With all humility, it was easy to tell that I was a better driver than he evidenced by me coasting through the corners behind him but on the straights when he nailed it, I was able to stay right on his tail. So it is possible. However, I would note that on a road course with "real" racers behind the wheel of each car, the Vette would win hands down (no disrespect intended)--probably no matter what level of mods you do to your C32.
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Originally Posted by mk2tmr2
A factory stock car that runs 11's is fast, dude. Seriously...give credit where it's due.
If your measure of "fast" is running 10's or less on a drag strip - not much out there is fast from the factory that costs less than $150k
Besides that - the C6 Z would be a waste as a drag car. It's meant for real racing
If your measure of "fast" is running 10's or less on a drag strip - not much out there is fast from the factory that costs less than $150k
Besides that - the C6 Z would be a waste as a drag car. It's meant for real racing
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Ok. I used to own an 02 Z06 just before my C55 and I know for a fact there isn't a C32 I know of that can keep up. I raced an E55 in the exact same conditions as stated above from about 60 to 130 and I walked away from the E55 in my Z06 quite easily. Now we all know what the E55 is capable of... A stock 02 Z06 will run 12.2 in the 1/4. Spend a thousand bux and you're well into the 11s...
Do the math: Z06 weighs 3000lbs, has 405hp, and has a 6-speed manual trans. Recipe for destruction. Not to mention it will put the power down on the ground better than just about anything on the road.
No Contest.
Do the math: Z06 weighs 3000lbs, has 405hp, and has a 6-speed manual trans. Recipe for destruction. Not to mention it will put the power down on the ground better than just about anything on the road.
No Contest.
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Originally Posted by Benzinsider
I understand that the Z06 is a much faster car off of the line. That's why I thought that the Z06 would trash me. Of course, a race from 60-140 is a different matter. I'm not saying "what if", I'm saying "I did". The guy in the Z06 was on the car hard. I'm sure that driving is something to do with it, and I can drive. I doubt driving has as much to do with it at the speeds we were racing. For one thing, there's no launch involved.
Has anyone else tried to race a Z06 on the freeway?
Has anyone else tried to race a Z06 on the freeway?
I have raced a 405 HP Z06 in my pullied, chipped, filtered, intaked, plugged, wired, de-resonatored, and lightened C32, and he pulled me very slowly on the freeway (as in maybe a car in a 10-15 second run). I believe that it is entirely possible for a perfectly-running and well driven C32 to hang with a slower-than-average Z06. Also, people should not forget that the exhaust mods which sound so badass (like your Z06 apparently had) often make the car SLOWER.
Don't take the theoretical maga-racers or former Vette owners to heart. None of them have the ***** to just come right out and call you a LIAR (which IS what they are REALLY saying), so they phrase it in terms of "no way that a C32 could beat a xxxxxx." They just don't seem to understand that street races have alot more in common with sausage making than they do with diamond cutting. There are a million factors which come into play, which can cause a theoretically-slower car to win (driver skill, gasoline quality and quantity, clogged cats/filters, state of tune, temperature, elevation, tire pressure, etc.). There have been C32 owners who have been stomped by stock G35s which, by any magazine calculation, is a slower car than a C32. So are these C32 owners lying about losing?
Why can't people just congratulate and say "nice race?" instead of pretending that street racing can be analyzed as a controlled experiment in a test-tube? The reality is that the average 405 HP Z06 is faster than the average C32, in an average race, in average conditions. This DOES NOT MEAN, however, that a C32 can never hang with a Z06.
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You've got a point, Vomit. I don't think anyone here is saying that he didn't keep up with the Z06 as he described. I think all of the responses were pointed more towards this comment in the original post:
It implies that the C32 is as fast as a 405hp Z06. The point is...the C32 is not "that" fast.
The C32 is a fast car and with the mods stated it's a bit faster than stock. However, it is by no stretch of the imagination as fast as a 2002+ Z06. That's not to say that in this instance he didn't keep up with the 'vette. But it is to say that in this instance something was "wrong" with the 'vette - mechanically, driver skill, or otherwise.
Anyone else have this happen? I didn't think these were that fast!
The C32 is a fast car and with the mods stated it's a bit faster than stock. However, it is by no stretch of the imagination as fast as a 2002+ Z06. That's not to say that in this instance he didn't keep up with the 'vette. But it is to say that in this instance something was "wrong" with the 'vette - mechanically, driver skill, or otherwise.
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Originally Posted by mk2tmr2
You've got a point, Vomit. I don't think anyone here is saying that he didn't keep up with the Z06 as he described. I think all of the responses were pointed more towards this comment in the original post:
. The fun of street racing is that it is unpredicatable. Personally, I find it fun to think that I am going to stomp the guy next to me, and have him walk me, as occurred with what I thought was a stock late 80s or early 90s Mustang GT about a month ago-car looked and sounded stock (at least until he nailed it ), but pulled me by at least four cars from 0-60. I just wish people would stop making stupid statements to the effect of "There's no way that you hung with a Z06" which statements, in essence, equate to one of the following: (1) "You are lying," or (2) "You are too stupid to know what a Z06 looks like, and you probably raced a non-Z06 C5."
Just say, "Good race, I am surprised that you hung with him" and leave it at that.
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Hey Vomit. Great posts!! Very will said. It seems that some of the people on these types of forums miss the point. We are here to share experiences and knowledge. Not to quote what we read in R&T, or heard from our buddy Earl. You know the guy?! He was roommates with a girl whose boyfriend's dad knew a guy that raced one of those one time, and smashed him. Also, if you assume that everyone on here is lying, then what's the point of this whole thing anyway?
I will be trying the SLK/C32 "thing" soon! Sad to say, I think the C32 will get it's *** handed to it at this point! I really like my C32, but the SLK55 is an animal!
I will be trying the SLK/C32 "thing" soon! Sad to say, I think the C32 will get it's *** handed to it at this point! I really like my C32, but the SLK55 is an animal!
