http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49997

if anyone is interested...


1) no edc... for concept or for production. not clear
2) no way to disable DSC fully

here's another link...
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html

as for the no way to fully turn off DSC. give me a break, there's no way to fully turn off ESP in an MB as well. that's not a big deal and I'm sure it won't be close to as obtrusive as ESP.

I love the way it turned out. once the new vert is released I may just trade in my current M.

It looks pretty cool.. I won't be interested until they make a sedan..

You don't even want to do that. Trust me, if drivers could drive perfect then BMW, Mercedes-Benz and all others would gladly let you turn DSC off completely; but unfortunately half of the driver's can't and the other half thinks they can.

A lot of people have given BMW stick about limiting the M5 and M6 to 400HP (you have to set it to 500), but the fact of the matter is these cars are actually killing and severely injuring people (especially the people in the latter group -- who think they can handle it), so I think it's important to give these cars some limitations, because if we're at 500HP now, it's only a matter of time before people can afford cars with 1000HP -- and imagine that tragedy!


Tee_Tz.

exactly. there are waaaay too many overconfident people who get into accidents. one of the primary ways people get into accidents in their SMG M3's is in S6 mode. I love S6, but it's not the best thing for normal driving. You need to turn DSC fully off to engage S6, and at times, even when you think you're fine, the wheel spin/slp could hurt ya...

I think that any car with over 350HP should come with MANDATORY safety training. Street cars are now available with the kind of horsepower formerly restricted to pure race cars -- but they do not have roll cages, multi-point harnesses, nor helmets. In a country with 65MPH speed limits, there is virtually NO reason to own a car that can go 180MPH.

hey guys just a side question does the M3 compare again the C63 or not? or are they in different categories?

Beautiful. Thats what the 335i coupe should have looked like...

What you're saying is, there should be faster speed limits! I sorta agree with this, sorta dissagree, I think people going too slow can be just as hazardous as people going too fast. There's a happy medium, but all in all, if you can't drive well, you shouldn't be on the road period, whether it's too slow or too fast because you're a danger to others.

Doesnt really look that different from the 335i coupe to me. I thought the e46 m3 seemed much more aggressive in comparison to the e46 coupe... These two look very similiar to me?

actually, there is a way to fully turn off ESP in a MB. Here is how you do it:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP

dude, you're talking about dyno mode. don't you think they'd also have something similar enabled? we're talking about pressing the ESP/DSC button, not entering a hidden menu to go into dyno mode. how many people realistically drive with dyno mode on 24/7? nonetheless enable it each time they get into the car (b/c once you shut off the car, dyno mode stops too).

Dyno mode kills everything else including ABS and SRS. I doubt that's what you want.

Baaaah. Looks like a 335i. Where is the SEDAN?

I am refering more to the aggressive nature of the M3. They look alike, I was just hoping the 335i coupe looked more aggressive, thats all I think the 335i looks like a camry

The sole reason why I sold my E46 was because it only had 2 doors and a micro back seat. Will be interested to see if BMW returns to making 4 door M sedans.

It looks nice, looking forward to seeing some videos.
BTW - Nice to see someone from Bulgaria, because thats where Im from..

but i like knowing that i can, should any suicidal tendencies arise

hello to you too

i'm not really all into the bulging hood phenomenon. I know it has a V8 in there, but I will just have the nicely placed vents on the hood, thank you very much.

Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.

is that a v8 you got in there or are you just happy to see me?

I think the hood design is just a design aspect kept from previous M3's to evoke it's lineage... I don't think its bad at all--it's definitely not as grotesque or cartoonish as the Lexus IS-F.

Good one

ditto, I think it looks awesome , but the Scoop family needs 4 doors.

Hmm...

It's good looking, but I really think the e46 M is a classic!

Don't you mean V10? Click on the second link in this post:

"BMW has not disclosed the final horsepower rating, but the production M3 is expected to have between 425 and 450 horsepower. Its engine is derived directly from the V10 used in the M5 and M6."

Or is it a V8 that is "derived" from the V10? I dunno??