Concept M3 revealed
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Concept M3 revealed
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49997
if anyone is interested...
1) no edc... for concept or for production. not clear
2) no way to disable DSC fully
if anyone is interested...
1) no edc... for concept or for production. not clear
2) no way to disable DSC fully
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here's another link...
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
as for the no way to fully turn off DSC. give me a break, there's no way to fully turn off ESP in an MB as well. that's not a big deal and I'm sure it won't be close to as obtrusive as ESP.
I love the way it turned out. once the new vert is released I may just trade in my current M.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
as for the no way to fully turn off DSC. give me a break, there's no way to fully turn off ESP in an MB as well. that's not a big deal and I'm sure it won't be close to as obtrusive as ESP.
I love the way it turned out. once the new vert is released I may just trade in my current M.
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49997
if anyone is interested...
1) no edc... for concept or for production. not clear
2) no way to disable DSC fully
if anyone is interested...
1) no edc... for concept or for production. not clear
2) no way to disable DSC fully
A lot of people have given BMW stick about limiting the M5 and M6 to 400HP (you have to set it to 500), but the fact of the matter is these cars are actually killing and severely injuring people (especially the people in the latter group -- who think they can handle it), so I think it's important to give these cars some limitations, because if we're at 500HP now, it's only a matter of time before people can afford cars with 1000HP -- and imagine that tragedy!
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You don't even want to do that. Trust me, if drivers could drive perfect then BMW, Mercedes-Benz and all others would gladly let you turn DSC off completely; but unfortunately half of the driver's can't and the other half thinks they can.
A lot of people have given BMW stick about limiting the M5 and M6 to 400HP (you have to set it to 500), but the fact of the matter is these cars are actually killing and severely injuring people (especially the people in the latter group -- who think they can handle it), so I think it's important to give these cars some limitations, because if we're at 500HP now, it's only a matter of time before people can afford cars with 1000HP -- and imagine that tragedy!
Tee_Tz.
A lot of people have given BMW stick about limiting the M5 and M6 to 400HP (you have to set it to 500), but the fact of the matter is these cars are actually killing and severely injuring people (especially the people in the latter group -- who think they can handle it), so I think it's important to give these cars some limitations, because if we're at 500HP now, it's only a matter of time before people can afford cars with 1000HP -- and imagine that tragedy!
Tee_Tz.
exactly. there are waaaay too many overconfident people who get into accidents. one of the primary ways people get into accidents in their SMG M3's is in S6 mode. I love S6, but it's not the best thing for normal driving. You need to turn DSC fully off to engage S6, and at times, even when you think you're fine, the wheel spin/slp could hurt ya...
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You don't even want to do that. Trust me, if drivers could drive perfect then BMW, Mercedes-Benz and all others would gladly let you turn DSC off completely; but unfortunately half of the driver's can't and the other half thinks they can.
A lot of people have given BMW stick about limiting the M5 and M6 to 400HP (you have to set it to 500), but the fact of the matter is these cars are actually killing and severely injuring people (especially the people in the latter group -- who think they can handle it), so I think it's important to give these cars some limitations, because if we're at 500HP now, it's only a matter of time before people can afford cars with 1000HP -- and imagine that tragedy!
Tee_Tz.
A lot of people have given BMW stick about limiting the M5 and M6 to 400HP (you have to set it to 500), but the fact of the matter is these cars are actually killing and severely injuring people (especially the people in the latter group -- who think they can handle it), so I think it's important to give these cars some limitations, because if we're at 500HP now, it's only a matter of time before people can afford cars with 1000HP -- and imagine that tragedy!
Tee_Tz.
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I think that any car with over 350HP should come with MANDATORY safety training. Street cars are now available with the kind of horsepower formerly restricted to pure race cars -- but they do not have roll cages, multi-point harnesses, nor helmets. In a country with 65MPH speed limits, there is virtually NO reason to own a car that can go 180MPH.
I sorta agree with this, sorta dissagree, I think people going too slow can be just as hazardous as people going too fast. There's a happy medium, but all in all, if you can't drive well, you shouldn't be on the road period, whether it's too slow or too fast because you're a danger to others.
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actually, there is a way to fully turn off ESP in a MB. Here is how you do it:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
here's another link...
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
as for the no way to fully turn off DSC. give me a break, there's no way to fully turn off ESP in an MB as well. that's not a big deal and I'm sure it won't be close to as obtrusive as ESP.
I love the way it turned out. once the new vert is released I may just trade in my current M.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
as for the no way to fully turn off DSC. give me a break, there's no way to fully turn off ESP in an MB as well. that's not a big deal and I'm sure it won't be close to as obtrusive as ESP.
I love the way it turned out. once the new vert is released I may just trade in my current M.
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actually, there is a way to fully turn off ESP in a MB. Here is how you do it:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=disable+ESP
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I am refering more to the aggressive nature of the M3. They look alike, I was just hoping the 335i coupe looked more aggressive, thats all 
I think the 335i looks like a camry
I think the 335i looks like a camry
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i'm not really all into the bulging hood phenomenon. I know it has a V8 in there, but I will just have the nicely placed vents on the hood, thank you very much.
Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.
Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.
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i'm not really all into the bulging hood phenomenon. I know it has a V8 in there, but I will just have the nicely placed vents on the hood, thank you very much.
Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.
Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.
I think the hood design is just a design aspect kept from previous M3's to evoke it's lineage... I don't think its bad at all--it's definitely not as grotesque or cartoonish as the Lexus IS-F.
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i'm not really all into the bulging hood phenomenon. I know it has a V8 in there, but I will just have the nicely placed vents on the hood, thank you very much.
Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.
Otherwise, it's a good looking car. I'm much more interested in a 4 dr version, if they decide to make one.
"BMW has not disclosed the final horsepower rating, but the production M3 is expected to have between 425 and 450 horsepower. Its engine is derived directly from the V10 used in the M5 and M6."
Or is it a V8 that is "derived" from the V10? I dunno??
