Header Project...
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I recall the PM you sent me about it, I didn't understood how
that worked and I sent those guys a inquiry and never heard
back.
Sounds like I might as well get a pair of these spacers and
a stock set of headers to tackle on this project...
Anyone doesn't want their stock C32 headers?
that worked and I sent those guys a inquiry and never heard
back.
Sounds like I might as well get a pair of these spacers and
a stock set of headers to tackle on this project...
Anyone doesn't want their stock C32 headers?
Scroll down to CEL eliminator. I verified that they both physically fit and function on the C32.
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http://www.roadraceengineering.com/evo.htm
Scroll down to CEL eliminator. I verified that they both physically fit and function on the C32.
Scroll down to CEL eliminator. I verified that they both physically fit and function on the C32.
Yup, I have them on my car too...
I also have one of these on my Lancer and before I installed it, I did have a CEL.
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Some interesting technical information to glean from www.burnsstainless.com
Visions of the new pipes dancing in my head, and what we hope are a few more HP because of ‘em!
Visions of the new pipes dancing in my head, and what we hope are a few more HP because of ‘em!
YOU JUST MADE MY DAY!!!!! i have been looking for something like this for a while...
i will be placing an order from them this next week for sure...
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well, i went over to hang out with Sunil today and we talked about my header project...he was very helpful with some great ideas for the project!!!
Sunil, thanks so much for all of the help today, as always, it was a pleasure, thanks again!!!
this should get underway this week...
Sunil, thanks so much for all of the help today, as always, it was a pleasure, thanks again!!!
this should get underway this week...
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well, i have decided to create a set of headers for the 3.2L engine...they will be applicable to any late model mercedes with the 3.2L engine.
but as for now, i am going to create one set, this is just my personal quest to see if i can create a quality set of headers for the car that are made of stainless steel... if all goes well and the gains are sufficient, then i will have them mass produced and market them through one of the vendors here on the forum
i have a stock set of C32 headers on the way that i am going to measure, take pictures of them, and then cut them up and use the flanges...
i will keep you guys posted on the progress...i have contact with a couple of fabricators here in houston that say they can do the work, so after i do some consulting with them, i will pick the one i think can design the kind of header that i am looking for and we will see what happens...
right now i am thinking possibly an equal length shorty header or a long tube header made out of stainless steel...
pictures will follow as soon as i get the headers in...thanks for your donation Jerry!
but as for now, i am going to create one set, this is just my personal quest to see if i can create a quality set of headers for the car that are made of stainless steel... if all goes well and the gains are sufficient, then i will have them mass produced and market them through one of the vendors here on the forum
i have a stock set of C32 headers on the way that i am going to measure, take pictures of them, and then cut them up and use the flanges...
i will keep you guys posted on the progress...i have contact with a couple of fabricators here in houston that say they can do the work, so after i do some consulting with them, i will pick the one i think can design the kind of header that i am looking for and we will see what happens...
right now i am thinking possibly an equal length shorty header or a long tube header made out of stainless steel...
pictures will follow as soon as i get the headers in...thanks for your donation Jerry!
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http://www.icengineworks.com/icewmain.htm
To put it simply it is a Lego header kit that creates a mock up for the headers. It is kinda pricey though because you still need to buy the metal tubing as well.
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Hey 1FAST, I found this site while browsing through one of my car mags. I was thinking about trying this out myself.
http://www.icengineworks.com/icewmain.htm
To put it simply it is a Lego header kit that creates a mock up for the headers. It is kinda pricey though because you still need to buy the metal tubing as well.
http://www.icengineworks.com/icewmain.htm
To put it simply it is a Lego header kit that creates a mock up for the headers. It is kinda pricey though because you still need to buy the metal tubing as well.
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well, things are progressing nicely with the project...
looks like i have a source for the piping, collector and collector flange...thanks Sunil for checking on this for me
i have someone to laser cut the flanges that mount the header to the head for me...
i also have a source to get the stainless steel for these flanges...
as soon as i get the headers in from Jerry(they are on their way!), then i will make a jig so that i can begin the fabrication process...
if all goes as scheduled(and it usually doesn't ), i should have a prototype ready in about 2 weeks...
i will keep you posted...
looks like i have a source for the piping, collector and collector flange...thanks Sunil for checking on this for me
i have someone to laser cut the flanges that mount the header to the head for me...
i also have a source to get the stainless steel for these flanges...
as soon as i get the headers in from Jerry(they are on their way!), then i will make a jig so that i can begin the fabrication process...
if all goes as scheduled(and it usually doesn't
), i should have a prototype ready in about 2 weeks...i will keep you posted...
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UPDATE:
i finally met with the fabricator today (he had to be out of town all week so today was the first time that we could meet).
things went well...i showed him the stock exhaust manifolds, my car and the measurements of what i was wanting to create...
he said, piece of cake, which is good news! he is going to make a couple of phone calls monday and we will be off and running...
i will update this again on monday when i have a few more details...
i finally met with the fabricator today (he had to be out of town all week so today was the first time that we could meet).
things went well...i showed him the stock exhaust manifolds, my car and the measurements of what i was wanting to create...
he said, piece of cake, which is good news! he is going to make a couple of phone calls monday and we will be off and running...
i will update this again on monday when i have a few more details...
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the first one that i create will be a set of stainless steel shorties...i have a couple of other designs that i am working on for those that want something beyond the typical bolt-on shorty header, but i will save that until it is in the works...for now, i am focusing on the shorty and should have a proto-type to show you guys in a couple of weeks
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AMG-Jerry's dad lives here in houston and he is planning to come down in the next month IIRC...he told me that i can take some measurements off of his dad's car so that i can confirm my theory...
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1FAST - I am just curious why you will be making them out of Stainless. Since they will have to be thermal coated the stainless will not be visable. It would be cheaper to just make them out of steel
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Mild steel coated with hi-temp coating works better than stainless.
Stainless, after numerous heat cylces, becomes brittle and eventually fails. I have seen this on many headers, from many different manufacturers.
Stainless, after numerous heat cylces, becomes brittle and eventually fails. I have seen this on many headers, from many different manufacturers.
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1. the welds were poor or did not use the right welding material for the application...
2. the walls of the piping were too thin and fatigued over time due to heat cycling...
i am not using 304 SS and i am not using thin-walled piping inorder to cut corners like most applications that i have seen...there are way too many better choices in a SS application
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met with the fabricator again and should have a prototype done by next week...the A/C going out on my car has set things back a little bit, but i am going to try to stick to this timeline...
i will keep you updated at things progress...
i will keep you updated at things progress...
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1FASTC32 and I have been in frequent contact since he envisioned this project. He hasn't even cashed my deposit check yet. I know for a fact he is working earnestly on the first set of prototypes.
One is never well served by giving the rush treatment to a skilled fabricator. Don't ask how I know.
All in due course...
One is never well served by giving the rush treatment to a skilled fabricator. Don't ask how I know.
All in due course...
