C32 Supercharger
06-28-2007, 02:39 PM
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C32 Supercharger
One of the spare S/C's arrived today and I took some pictures for everyone. I'm going to send this unit to 1FastC32 so he can take a look at the insides and whatnot.
Here are some pics.
If you want to see something specific, please let either 1FastC32 or myself know.
I hope to rebuild the two units I bought off of ebay, so if someone knows the needed parts and have their part numbers, please post it up. I think it would be nice to be able to rebuild these as needed without buying a refurb.
Here are some pics.
If you want to see something specific, please let either 1FastC32 or myself know.
I hope to rebuild the two units I bought off of ebay, so if someone knows the needed parts and have their part numbers, please post it up. I think it would be nice to be able to rebuild these as needed without buying a refurb.
06-28-2007, 07:01 PM
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AMG-Jerry (and 1FastC32) - I was on the C203 forum looking at what people have done w/ their 2002 Coupes (m111 2.3L supercharged engine) and I noticed a couple people talking about porting their S/C through a company called Stiegemeier (http://www.stiegemeier.com/) - apparently Cobras and Lightnings do this a lot and make pretty nice gains. Anyway, since you guys seem to tackle every conceivable project in the quest for more power (please take that as a compliment - it's intended as one), I wondered if you'd looked into this for the C32 S/C. I'd presume that someone would only pursue this if they're already at Stage II (i.e. ECU, pulley, headers) or higher... but it's an interesting idea.
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
06-28-2007, 09:26 PM
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AMG-Jerry (and 1FastC32) - I was on the C203 forum looking at what people have done w/ their 2002 Coupes (m111 2.3L supercharged engine) and I noticed a couple people talking about porting their S/C through a company called Stiegemeier (http://www.stiegemeier.com/) - apparently Cobras and Lightnings do this a lot and make pretty nice gains. Anyway, since you guys seem to tackle every conceivable project in the quest for more power (please take that as a compliment - it's intended as one), I wondered if you'd looked into this for the C32 S/C. I'd presume that someone would only pursue this if they're already at Stage II (i.e. ECU, pulley, headers) or higher... but it's an interesting idea.
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
Thanks!
I took a look at the website and they have a MB S/C pictured on the lower left side of the page. So, I think that someone should give them a call to see what they could do.
I did notice that the S/C has room for improvement, but I'm not sure how much power will be gained.
It's worth a shot though... and depending on the price, I might be willing to do it. If not, I will be more than happy to beg 1Fast to port mine for me.
I would also like to polish the blade again and clean everything out.But before I open her up, I need to find gaskets and the oil so I can put it back together correctly.
06-29-2007, 11:17 AM
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AMG-Jerry (and 1FastC32) - I was on the C203 forum looking at what people have done w/ their 2002 Coupes (m111 2.3L supercharged engine) and I noticed a couple people talking about porting their S/C through a company called Stiegemeier (http://www.stiegemeier.com/) - apparently Cobras and Lightnings do this a lot and make pretty nice gains. Anyway, since you guys seem to tackle every conceivable project in the quest for more power (please take that as a compliment - it's intended as one), I wondered if you'd looked into this for the C32 S/C. I'd presume that someone would only pursue this if they're already at Stage II (i.e. ECU, pulley, headers) or higher... but it's an interesting idea.
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
Interseting point from the above website:
Never run a phenolic spacer between a Lightning plenum and blower, this will cause extra heat to remain in the blower case and failure will follow.
This was what I have been saying about the heat transfer issue with phenolic spacers, ie what side are you trying to protect, since the blower generates heat PV=NRT.
Oh well, food for thought
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06-29-2007, 11:26 AM
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Vadim has mentioned before that there is very little to be gained from porting the SC, as that is not where the bottleneck is.
06-29-2007, 11:46 AM
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Hey guys:
Interseting point from the above website:
Never run a phenolic spacer between a Lightning plenum and blower, this will cause extra heat to remain in the blower case and failure will follow.
This was what I have been saying about the heat transfer issue with phenolic spacers, ie what side are you trying to protect, since the blower generates heat PV=NRT.
Oh well, food for thought
See yeah
Interseting point from the above website:
Never run a phenolic spacer between a Lightning plenum and blower, this will cause extra heat to remain in the blower case and failure will follow.
This was what I have been saying about the heat transfer issue with phenolic spacers, ie what side are you trying to protect, since the blower generates heat PV=NRT.
Oh well, food for thought
See yeah
06-29-2007, 11:58 AM
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They do have the effect of blocking the supercharger from LOOSING its heat. This is what the article was detailing. Since the supercharger operates around 250 degrees farenhiet, at boost, how will it loose this heat?
Oh well, I am not looking for an argument, just wanted to point out a little info. Suit yourself, But I know I WON'T be running Phenolic on my toy.
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I agree,
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They do have the effect of blocking the supercharger from LOOSING its heat. This is what the article was detailing. Since the supercharger operates around 250 degrees farenhiet, at boost, how will it loose this heat?
Oh well, I am not looking for an argument, just wanted to point out a little info. Suit yourself, But I know I WON'T be running Phenolic on my toy.
See yeah
But
They do have the effect of blocking the supercharger from LOOSING its heat. This is what the article was detailing. Since the supercharger operates around 250 degrees farenhiet, at boost, how will it loose this heat?
Oh well, I am not looking for an argument, just wanted to point out a little info. Suit yourself, But I know I WON'T be running Phenolic on my toy.
See yeah
. What you are thinking happens, does not happen on our car. Here is a picture of them on my car. Notice the SC is next to spacers pictured.
In the article you are refering to, they are isolating the SC from the manifold with a phenolic spacer. This is different than the spacer for our car.
Not arguing. Just pointing out that what you are refering to has nothing do do with the spacers for our car. The phenolic spacers for the C32 work very well.
06-29-2007, 02:18 PM
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I hate to say it, but I think you are confused on where the spacers go on a C32...They go between the manifold and the surge tanks
. What you are thinking happens, does not happen on our car. Here is a picture of them on my car. Notice the SC is next to spacers pictured.
In the article you are refering to, they are isolating the SC from the manifold with a phenolic spacer. This is different than the spacer for our car.
Not arguing. Just pointing out that what you are refering to has nothing do do with the spacers for our car. The phenolic spacers for the C32 work very well.
. What you are thinking happens, does not happen on our car. Here is a picture of them on my car. Notice the SC is next to spacers pictured.
In the article you are refering to, they are isolating the SC from the manifold with a phenolic spacer. This is different than the spacer for our car.
Not arguing. Just pointing out that what you are refering to has nothing do do with the spacers for our car. The phenolic spacers for the C32 work very well.
although, as i have said before, they can only do so much with all of the heat that is being produced...
06-29-2007, 03:42 PM
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06-29-2007, 06:28 PM
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Air box-->throttle body-->supercharger-->intercooler-->air intake plenums-->head
hope that makes sense...
06-29-2007, 07:22 PM
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Here you go...
06-29-2007, 07:57 PM
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amg, c203, c32, diagram, intercooler, overhaul, phenolic, ported, porting, rebuild, spacer, supercharge, supercharger, turbocharge, w203
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