EBC "Red Stuff" Pads and Brake Sensors
#1
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EBC "Red Stuff" Pads and Brake Sensors
Anyone knows whether I have to modify the front pads for the OEM brake sensor to fit in during the installation?
Part number is DP31363C EBC "RED STUFF".
The pads will be installed on the C32.
Thanks.
Part number is DP31363C EBC "RED STUFF".
The pads will be installed on the C32.
Thanks.
#2
Worst case, if there is no hole, or it is not big enough, it's very easy to drill it out.
EBC Redstuff is a great brake pad. Good luck.
#3
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Thanks,
I see, so basically, the installer can just remove the OEM pads and slide in the new "EBC" with anti-squeal compound and connect the sensors.
I will tell him tomorrow. Any special precautions while breaking-in the pads?
I see, so basically, the installer can just remove the OEM pads and slide in the new "EBC" with anti-squeal compound and connect the sensors.
I will tell him tomorrow. Any special precautions while breaking-in the pads?
#4
Break in should be like any pad. I'm probably ****, but I like to give them a workout to heat up the pads, then let them cool. You may get some squeal while breaking in, but give it a week.
#5
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Sure, although I've never used anti-squeal compound. The only thing to look out for is that the rear pads are just a smidge too tall to slide in the caliper easily, and will need to be ground/sanded down on the top and bottom edges.
Break in should be like any pad. I'm probably ****, but I like to give them a workout to heat up the pads, then let them cool. You may get some squeal while breaking in, but give it a week.
Break in should be like any pad. I'm probably ****, but I like to give them a workout to heat up the pads, then let them cool. You may get some squeal while breaking in, but give it a week.
How come you don't need anti-squeal for the pads? I thought it is a must because squealing is so annoying while you are braking.
Regrading the break-in, do I need to step the brake pedal a little bit harder in order to stop? Also, any harms that I use my OEM rotors and EBC for the stepup?
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I need only the front pads to be replaced and the brake senor is fine.
How come you don't need anti-squeal for the pads? I thought it is a must because squealing is so annoying while you are braking.
Regrading the break-in, do I need to step the brake pedal a little bit harder in order to stop? Also, any harms that I use my OEM rotors and EBC for the stepup?
How come you don't need anti-squeal for the pads? I thought it is a must because squealing is so annoying while you are braking.
Regrading the break-in, do I need to step the brake pedal a little bit harder in order to stop? Also, any harms that I use my OEM rotors and EBC for the stepup?
Anti-squeal is basically a goo that prevents a wobbly pad from vibrating in the caliper and making noise. Some cars need it, others don't. I've never needed it in any of my cars (MB and Audi). I don't know if this is why my pads never squeal, but as a DIY-er, I know that our pads come with a metal shim (thin, stainless sheet) that clips over the back of the pad. MAKE SURE that your shop keeps and re-uses that shim. Maybe that's the secret weapon to defeat squealing.
Break in requires that you do a few hard stops (controlled by firm -- a book should slide off your front seat!) in succession to heat up pads. Nothing crazy. If you can smell the pads cooking, then they're hot enough.
And EBC pads are fine on OEM rotors. The RedStuff ceramic did no harm to my rotors. You might find some *****in' on the web about EBC RedStuff pads hurting rotors, but that refers to an earlier formulation that has been changed. The old Reds were not ceramic.
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Anti-squeal is basically a goo that prevents a wobbly pad from vibrating in the caliper and making noise. Some cars need it, others don't. I've never needed it in any of my cars (MB and Audi). I don't know if this is why my pads never squeal, but as a DIY-er, I know that our pads come with a metal shim (thin, stainless sheet) that clips over the back of the pad. MAKE SURE that your shop keeps and re-uses that shim. Maybe that's the secret weapon to defeat squealing.
Break in requires that you do a few hard stops (controlled by firm -- a book should slide off your front seat!) in succession to heat up pads. Nothing crazy. If you can smell the pads cooking, then they're hot enough.
And EBC pads are fine on OEM rotors. The RedStuff ceramic did no harm to my rotors. You might find some *****in' on the web about EBC RedStuff pads hurting rotors, but that refers to an earlier formulation that has been changed. The old Reds were not ceramic.
Break in requires that you do a few hard stops (controlled by firm -- a book should slide off your front seat!) in succession to heat up pads. Nothing crazy. If you can smell the pads cooking, then they're hot enough.
And EBC pads are fine on OEM rotors. The RedStuff ceramic did no harm to my rotors. You might find some *****in' on the web about EBC RedStuff pads hurting rotors, but that refers to an earlier formulation that has been changed. The old Reds were not ceramic.
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Okay, I make sure the shop will use the same the shims.
Thanks.
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Just installed the front pads this afternoon, they are great compared to the OEM except there is squealing noise while braking at low speed.
The pad did have a hole for the brake sensor and the sensors included in the package DO NOT fit. As a result, I am using my unworn brake sensor!
The pad did have a hole for the brake sensor and the sensors included in the package DO NOT fit. As a result, I am using my unworn brake sensor!
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a quarter mile at a time
Just installed the front pads this afternoon, they are great compared to the OEM except there is squealing noise while braking at low speed.
The pad did have a hole for the brake sensor and the sensors included in the package DO NOT fit. As a result, I am using my unworn brake sensor!
The pad did have a hole for the brake sensor and the sensors included in the package DO NOT fit. As a result, I am using my unworn brake sensor!
#11
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Do I really need to do some hard braking in order to stop the noise (i.e. break-in the pads)?
People keep looking at my car while I am preparing to stop at the traffic lights, it is so annoying.
People keep looking at my car while I am preparing to stop at the traffic lights, it is so annoying.
#12
Find a long open road, and do a series of brutal stops from 45 (or more) down to 10. Then park the car (DON'T use the parking brake at this point), and let it cool.
It took my brakes about a week or 10 days to get silent.
It's a fact of life that big, high-performance brakes require more careful bedding in. If you want easy quiet brakes, get a Lincoln Town Car!
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You hate the squealing, but you don't want to do the bedding-in procedure? Seems to me you could skip the bedding in if the brakes did NOT squeal.
Find a long open road, and do a series of brutal stops from 45 (or more) down to 10. Then park the car (DON'T use the parking brake at this point), and let it cool.
It took my brakes about a week or 10 days to get silent.
It's a fact of life that big, high-performance brakes require more careful bedding in. If you want easy quiet brakes, get a Lincoln Town Car!
Find a long open road, and do a series of brutal stops from 45 (or more) down to 10. Then park the car (DON'T use the parking brake at this point), and let it cool.
It took my brakes about a week or 10 days to get silent.
It's a fact of life that big, high-performance brakes require more careful bedding in. If you want easy quiet brakes, get a Lincoln Town Car!
Ha Ha, Lincoln Town car may have other issues as well.
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