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Mods- which ones really make a difference?
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2010 C63 P31, 2003 C32
Mods- which ones really make a difference?
There's lots of stuff we can do to our cars, but I'm wondering which ones really made a difference on your cars, and were worth the coin?
Here's a couple of my thoughts.....
resonator delete- great, can't believe i waited, the car sounds more balsey, but not obnoxious
K & N Air filter waste of money, made no difference
Ceramic Brake pads worth every sent, perform better and no dust.
would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this----
EvoII? (worth the money?)
powerchip?
Y-splitter (this one seems like a waste of money and time)
Well?
Here's a couple of my thoughts.....
resonator delete- great, can't believe i waited, the car sounds more balsey, but not obnoxious
K & N Air filter waste of money, made no difference
Ceramic Brake pads worth every sent, perform better and no dust.
would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this----
EvoII? (worth the money?)
powerchip?
Y-splitter (this one seems like a waste of money and time)
Well?
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There's lots of stuff we can do to our cars, but I'm wondering which ones really made a difference on your cars, and were worth the coin?
Here's a couple of my thoughts.....
resonator delete- great, can't believe i waited, the car sounds more balsey, but not obnoxious
K & N Air filter waste of money, made no difference
Ceramic Brake pads worth every sent, perform better and no dust.
would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this----
EvoII? (worth the money?)
powerchip?
Y-splitter (this one seems like a waste of money and time)
Well?
Here's a couple of my thoughts.....
resonator delete- great, can't believe i waited, the car sounds more balsey, but not obnoxious
K & N Air filter waste of money, made no difference
Ceramic Brake pads worth every sent, perform better and no dust.
would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this----
EvoII? (worth the money?)
powerchip?
Y-splitter (this one seems like a waste of money and time)
Well?
According to this site dyno/info
1. Resonator, sound great power 0
2. K/N, I say yes, my G-tech showed a drop of about .14 seconds, 0-60 mph passes, WELL WORTH IT I THINK.
3. Ceramic brakes, YES and NO, Great NO dust, Haven't seen GREAT results at the track, ie brake fade on a road course
3. ECU tunes, a mixed bag of nuts according to this site. Some same you must with pullies, some same SAVE THE MONEY. After talking to EVOSPORT, I know I WILL NOT BE PAYING FOR THE TUNE. They don't even claim HP, just safety, ie the car won't lean out. Which I feel the stock electronics can adjust this anyway, 02 sensors IAT, etc, etc,
4. Y- Splitter, I haven't seen any published results, but might be worth it on a OVER boosted car, NON STOCK
Oh well, thats what I have learned from this site, and experiance. I can only say that I have the K/N's and Just bought the ASP pullies. Once the pullies are on, I will post my G-tech and Beaverun results. Hope this helped.
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Wow, i've heard the opposite for the EVo stuff. Good to know. I was thinking of spending the 4600 on the EVoII
I haven't seen any fade in my ceramics, but i haven't had it on a track.
I'd like to know what the ASP pullies do.....keep us posted.
I've often thought, if i'm going to drop another 5-6 K on my car with 75K miles, why wouldn't i just take that cash and buy myself a 475hp C63?
I haven't seen any fade in my ceramics, but i haven't had it on a track.
I'd like to know what the ASP pullies do.....keep us posted.
I've often thought, if i'm going to drop another 5-6 K on my car with 75K miles, why wouldn't i just take that cash and buy myself a 475hp C63?
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Wow, i've heard the opposite for the EVo stuff. Good to know. I was thinking of spending the 4600 on the EVoII
I haven't seen any fade in my ceramics, but i haven't had it on a track.
I'd like to know what the ASP pullies do.....keep us posted.
I've often thought, if i'm going to drop another 5-6 K on my car with 75K miles, why wouldn't i just take that cash and buy myself a 475hp C63?
I haven't seen any fade in my ceramics, but i haven't had it on a track.
I'd like to know what the ASP pullies do.....keep us posted.
I've often thought, if i'm going to drop another 5-6 K on my car with 75K miles, why wouldn't i just take that cash and buy myself a 475hp C63?
If you really want over 400 hp, BUY A V-8, OR 12.
See yeah
PS: The evosport conversation I had was with one of their techs, and yeah, I was also alittle dispointed when I was done with the call. Oh well more money for the E
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Hey danielmccabe,
Sounds like you're already addressing the suspension in a different thread (as another southeastern PA C32 owner, I'm very interested to hear how you like the H&R coilovers on our roads)
As for the "do I drop 5-6K into my C32, or save that money as a down-payment on a C63?" - to me, that's the age-old question of heavily modding a car. I'm in a little different situation, b/c my '04 only has 28K at this point, but it is a bit of a tough call.
In the end, I guess I look at it this way - if I do some performance mods next spring (when my car's out of factory warranty anyway), it'll make it that much more enjoyable for the next few years... at which time, maybe I'll look into a couple-year-old, low mileage C63 as a replacement. In a way, I'd be letting my "modding money" come from the C63's first owner, as they'll pay the steepest part of that car's depreciation hit... and yes, I know I'm only rationalizing, because the "to mod or not to mod the C32" is an independent decision... YMMV. Good luck whichever way you go... hope to see your C32 around at some point!
Sounds like you're already addressing the suspension in a different thread (as another southeastern PA C32 owner, I'm very interested to hear how you like the H&R coilovers on our roads)
As for the "do I drop 5-6K into my C32, or save that money as a down-payment on a C63?" - to me, that's the age-old question of heavily modding a car. I'm in a little different situation, b/c my '04 only has 28K at this point, but it is a bit of a tough call.
In the end, I guess I look at it this way - if I do some performance mods next spring (when my car's out of factory warranty anyway), it'll make it that much more enjoyable for the next few years... at which time, maybe I'll look into a couple-year-old, low mileage C63 as a replacement. In a way, I'd be letting my "modding money" come from the C63's first owner, as they'll pay the steepest part of that car's depreciation hit... and yes, I know I'm only rationalizing, because the "to mod or not to mod the C32" is an independent decision... YMMV. Good luck whichever way you go... hope to see your C32 around at some point!
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The Y-splitter doesn't cost much, maybe around $40-$50, but it has been proven to provide your stock airbox with more air. If you're talking about installing SL55 airbox on our car, now that would be a waste of money and time because based on opinions that I've read, looks like the Y splitter itself is enough.
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PS: Did the LSD "quaife" really show a big difference?
I have contacted EVERY manufacuer on this and NO body makes one except them. At 2000.00 I can't see it
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My favorite mods in order
1 - Quaife LSD
2 - Sprintbooster A2
3 - Pulleys
4 - the reset of stage 2
My cooling kit is on the way. I haven't tried one yet.
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Get the Quaife. It is the best one available. The car should have come with LSD from the factory. Even on a stock C32, the LSD is amazing.
My favorite mods in order
1 - Quaife LSD
2 - Sprintbooster A2
3 - Pulleys
4 - the reset of stage 2
My cooling kit is on the way. I haven't tried one yet.
My favorite mods in order
1 - Quaife LSD
2 - Sprintbooster A2
3 - Pulleys
4 - the reset of stage 2
My cooling kit is on the way. I haven't tried one yet.
Ah.. wish they made LSDs for us Crossfire/SLK owners.. even Kleemann's 4k LSD that was once avaliable for us is no more..
As for the mods... been focusing mainly on aethetic mods so far, but...
Resonator Delete - Huge improvement in sound.. should be like this from factory.. acctualy sounds like a performance car.. Besides that thing weighs at least 15 pounds... if not more.. No Drawbacks great mod..
Rear Cats Delete - It is ok.. Did this after removing the resonator and it got just a little louder, but by no means to loud.. dropped like 8 pounds here... The drawback is that you will likely not pass emissions, but thats about it... its a decent mod, cant say it is too great...
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Ok, i'm embarrassed, but you'll need to explain these mods. what is the LSD mod, what does th sprintbooster do, and what are you talking about with the reset?
also, when you say pulleys, can you give a little more detail, what does it do, where do i get them, and what's the horsepower boost? (at least claimed)
also, when you say pulleys, can you give a little more detail, what does it do, where do i get them, and what's the horsepower boost? (at least claimed)
Get the Quaife. It is the best one available. The car should have come with LSD from the factory. Even on a stock C32, the LSD is amazing.
My favorite mods in order
1 - Quaife LSD
2 - Sprintbooster A2
3 - Pulleys
4 - the reset of stage 2
My cooling kit is on the way. I haven't tried one yet.
My favorite mods in order
1 - Quaife LSD
2 - Sprintbooster A2
3 - Pulleys
4 - the reset of stage 2
My cooling kit is on the way. I haven't tried one yet.
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Ok, i'm embarrassed, but you'll need to explain these mods. what is the LSD mod, what does th sprintbooster do, and what are you talking about with the reset?
also, when you say pulleys, can you give a little more detail, what does it do, where do i get them, and what's the horsepower boost? (at least claimed)
also, when you say pulleys, can you give a little more detail, what does it do, where do i get them, and what's the horsepower boost? (at least claimed)
SprintBooster: Increases the response of the Drive-By Wire (Gas Pedal)
Pulleys: Made by Renntech, Evosport, ASP, and LET.
LET pulley is the largest, @ 22psi
Renntech, Evosport and ASP are the same size, and give under a 50hp increase.
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LET C32 2002
There's lots of stuff we can do to our cars, but I'm wondering which ones really made a difference on your cars, and were worth the coin?
Here's a couple of my thoughts.....
resonator delete- great, can't believe i waited, the car sounds more balsey, but not obnoxious
K & N Air filter waste of money, made no difference
Ceramic Brake pads worth every sent, perform better and no dust.
would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this----
EvoII? (worth the money?)
powerchip?
Y-splitter (this one seems like a waste of money and time)
Well?
Here's a couple of my thoughts.....
resonator delete- great, can't believe i waited, the car sounds more balsey, but not obnoxious
K & N Air filter waste of money, made no difference
Ceramic Brake pads worth every sent, perform better and no dust.
would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this----
EvoII? (worth the money?)
powerchip?
Y-splitter (this one seems like a waste of money and time)
Well?
1. New Magnecor 8mm wires(felt smoother and quicker)
2. Denso IK20 Iridium plugs(installed at same time as above)
3. Green filters(felt smoother and quicker)
4. Sprintbooster(WOW!!!-feels like car got an independant fuel management system....feels very noticeably quicker)
If a difference is all that matters then buy a SprintBooster! (No HP/TQ but you totally feel it!!!
)As for the filters..............well IMO I felt the Greens instantly after install. I am going to the track this Saturday to run a few drag runs
to see ETAs and figured I test fresh OEM filters, cleaned K&N filters and cleaned Green filters. One per run and with as much as a 2 hour wait between runs well engine should be cool enough to get very accurate times per filters(not counting driver error)...As for the tuning in my personal opinion I think its needed in order to get full potential of the any pulleys installed.
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LET C32 2002
LSD: Limited Slip Differential. Made by Quaife and availible through Evosport
SprintBooster: Increases the response of the Drive-By Wire (Gas Pedal)
Pulleys: Made by Renntech, Evosport, ASP, and LET.
LET pulley is the largest, @ 22psi
Renntech, Evosport and ASP are the same size, and give under a 50hp increase.
SprintBooster: Increases the response of the Drive-By Wire (Gas Pedal)
Pulleys: Made by Renntech, Evosport, ASP, and LET.
LET pulley is the largest, @ 22psi
Renntech, Evosport and ASP are the same size, and give under a 50hp increase.
Cars looking good RLEE! Bet your glad you upgraded.
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Also, FWIW, I think most MB enthusiasts on this particular forum typically are looking for either "highest possible performance" and/or "best bang for the buck" - which you typically won't get either from a Kleemann or Brabus, etc. What you will get is a wholly engineered tuner-car package, but you pay for it - and most posters here seem to know enough to build/mod their own piece by piece. For example, I believe you can spend roughly $8k - $10k or more just on a F&R BBK from one of the high-end tuners... or you can get stoptech or brembo (who might make it for the tuner anyway) BBKs F&R for probably $6k or less... see what I mean?
