New C32 Intake
10-23-2007, 09:27 AM
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Rob, I remember posting up a few pictures of a crossfire with two k&n typhoon cold air intakes taht he had customfitted into his car. I heard dyno results were pretty good!
10-23-2007, 02:44 PM
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Actually there is way more room on the 170 vs the 203. Brandon from Code3 came down to get some measurements off my car for the intercooler HE. The Y connector on the 203 is right there on the firewall. The 170 has a good 3-5 inches extra.
10-23-2007, 03:03 PM
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Matt is correct. There was a ton more room in the SRT-6 at the firewall, than on the C32. Although, I had mocked up a similar intake, and there is room for one. Its just very tight.
10-23-2007, 04:11 PM
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So this should be good to go with the Renntech boxes being offered at half price that might be another way to go as well. Who is rob and where can i find the pics of that twin intake system. If I remember right your talking about the sealed K&N filters i believe wasn't it a metal shroud around them???
10-23-2007, 04:21 PM
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So this should be good to go with the Renntech boxes being offered at half price that might be another way to go as well. Who is rob and where can i find the pics of that twin intake system. If I remember right your talking about the sealed K&N filters i believe wasn't it a metal shroud around them???
I'm Rob (Robert)
10-23-2007, 05:55 PM
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I am Jon nice to meet you rob I debating whether or not to take the chance with the VRP air box. The Renntech I was referring to was from Adam at Euroelites $1895 for the cf air box he had 4 I don't know how many he has now... I brought this up on the crossfire forum and they don't think I will see the significant gains that the v8 was able to pull off they were estimating around 12 on the high side what do you guys think?
10-24-2007, 03:05 PM
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The first private individual to get one of these reported a consistant .3 second and 2 MPH gain in the 1/4 mile. Took a stock SRT into the 12's for only $500. I'll be recieving my prototype tomorrow for testing andreview. I'll let you know what I think.
Oh, and it's being dynoed tomorrow by the Company owner. These intakes are still being tested, but should be available within the next few weeks to the general public. I believe he is planning on offering a C32, SLK 32, C320, SLK320 version as well. A lot cheaper than the German tuners and would seem to make more power then most of theirs as well.
Review and Dyno to follow.
Oh, and it's being dynoed tomorrow by the Company owner. These intakes are still being tested, but should be available within the next few weeks to the general public. I believe he is planning on offering a C32, SLK 32, C320, SLK320 version as well. A lot cheaper than the German tuners and would seem to make more power then most of theirs as well.
Review and Dyno to follow.
10-25-2007, 11:23 PM
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The first private individual to get one of these reported a consistant .3 second and 2 MPH gain in the 1/4 mile. Took a stock SRT into the 12's for only $500. I'll be recieving my prototype tomorrow for testing andreview. I'll let you know what I think.
Oh, and it's being dynoed tomorrow by the Company owner. These intakes are still being tested, but should be available within the next few weeks to the general public. I believe he is planning on offering a C32, SLK 32, C320, SLK320 version as well. A lot cheaper than the German tuners and would seem to make more power then most of theirs as well.
Review and Dyno to follow.
Oh, and it's being dynoed tomorrow by the Company owner. These intakes are still being tested, but should be available within the next few weeks to the general public. I believe he is planning on offering a C32, SLK 32, C320, SLK320 version as well. A lot cheaper than the German tuners and would seem to make more power then most of theirs as well.
Review and Dyno to follow.
Ok, you can read about the tentative results here. I'll be installing mine tomorrow. I'll create a new thread once it's all done.
http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...0&page=1&pp=20
10-26-2007, 11:32 AM
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Sounds too good to be true.
If it makes 20whp on my car, I'll personally buy every C32 owner one.
I've taken 2 short ram intakes and placed them in the engine bay during dyno runs. Looked very similar to the pics posted...
Results?
One run was higher and one was lower than with the stock C32 boxes.
+-5whp.
Did the SRT used for testing have stock filters? Was it the same dyno and same day? I recently rented a local track with a few other MB owners and one of my good friends was there testing air filters. He managed to pull off better times just by getting rid of the stock filters.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/214404-track-results-k-n-greens-stock-filters.html
The 1st pic shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd pic shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)
We did over 25 runs that day per car.
I don't doubt that it sounds different and it might even feel slightly different, but 20whp is too good to be true.
When they are ready, send me one for Dyno testing and if it makes 20whp on my car, I'll stick to my word. I'll even pay for it as long as you except returns if numbers are not met.
I've had my C32 on the dyno many times, and have done over 150 pulls in the past year alone....I would love to be wrong about this because we could all use a cheap 20whp.
EDIT - If the SRT used dirty stock filters, then switched to the new setup with new filters, I could see you getting close to 15whp.
I'm also not familiar with the SRT, and I'm not saying that he didn't make the alleged gains. I'm saying that I'm 100% sure that my car wouldn't gain 20Whp using that setup.
If it makes 20whp on my car, I'll personally buy every C32 owner one.
I've taken 2 short ram intakes and placed them in the engine bay during dyno runs. Looked very similar to the pics posted...
Results?
One run was higher and one was lower than with the stock C32 boxes.
+-5whp.
Did the SRT used for testing have stock filters? Was it the same dyno and same day? I recently rented a local track with a few other MB owners and one of my good friends was there testing air filters. He managed to pull off better times just by getting rid of the stock filters.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/214404-track-results-k-n-greens-stock-filters.html
The 1st pic shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd pic shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)
We did over 25 runs that day per car.
I don't doubt that it sounds different and it might even feel slightly different, but 20whp is too good to be true.
When they are ready, send me one for Dyno testing and if it makes 20whp on my car, I'll stick to my word. I'll even pay for it as long as you except returns if numbers are not met.
I've had my C32 on the dyno many times, and have done over 150 pulls in the past year alone....I would love to be wrong about this because we could all use a cheap 20whp.
EDIT - If the SRT used dirty stock filters, then switched to the new setup with new filters, I could see you getting close to 15whp.
I'm also not familiar with the SRT, and I'm not saying that he didn't make the alleged gains. I'm saying that I'm 100% sure that my car wouldn't gain 20Whp using that setup.
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10-26-2007, 11:57 AM
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I agree Jerry. Its sounds completely unbelievable. I can see picking up a few hp, as well as some nice throttle response. But to see a solid 22-30rwhp from this mod alone is crazy. I mocked up a similar setup, more in the hopes of getting some better throttle response. I never in a million years would think that it would pick up that kind of hp...Considering we have people that move to the larger y-pipe and air boxes, and only see modest gains, I really want to see some real, consistent proof of this.
10-26-2007, 01:20 PM
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These cars base at 280-300 stock. The test car put down 300 so I don't think there was a problem with dirty air filters. When doing the mathematical calculation to see increases in horsepower based on quarter mile times [he posted on Crossfire forum] I came up with a 19 HP increase. Still quite a difference for just an intake swap.
I personally think the fact that there is only 1 tube going to the throttle body is a key in the efficiency of this system. When there are 2 tubes the air is going to crash into itself causing turbulance at the throttle body. Plus the fact that the tubing is all mandrel bent and the filter is right in front of the radiator. Just my 2 cents.
I personally think the fact that there is only 1 tube going to the throttle body is a key in the efficiency of this system. When there are 2 tubes the air is going to crash into itself causing turbulance at the throttle body. Plus the fact that the tubing is all mandrel bent and the filter is right in front of the radiator. Just my 2 cents.
10-26-2007, 01:26 PM
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These cars base at 280-300 stock. The test car put down 300 so I don't think there was a problem with dirty air filters. When doing the mathematical calculation to see increases in horsepower based on quarter mile times [he posted on Crossfire forum] I came up with a 19 HP increase. Still quite a difference for just an intake swap.
I personally think the fact that there is only 1 tube going to the throttle body is a key in the efficiency of this system. When there are 2 tubes the air is going to crash into itself causing turbulance at the throttle body. Plus the fact that the tubing is all mandrel bent and the filter is right in front of the radiator. Just my 2 cents.
I personally think the fact that there is only 1 tube going to the throttle body is a key in the efficiency of this system. When there are 2 tubes the air is going to crash into itself causing turbulance at the throttle body. Plus the fact that the tubing is all mandrel bent and the filter is right in front of the radiator. Just my 2 cents.
Is that 19whp or crank? Like I said, 15hp would be expected from the air filter change and from the larger boxes / splitter.
Can you do you calculation based on the numbers for the C32 Air Filter test?
The 1st pic shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd pic shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)
10-26-2007, 01:31 PM
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Does it really matter if the air has turbulance before the blower?
10-26-2007, 02:14 PM
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Is that 19whp or crank? Like I said, 15hp would be expected from the air filter change and from the larger boxes / splitter.
Can you do you calculation based on the numbers for the C32 Air Filter test?
The 1st pic shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd pic shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)
Can you do you calculation based on the numbers for the C32 Air Filter test?
The 1st pic shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd pic shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)
10-26-2007, 02:26 PM
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SO, to sum up, if the SRT6 went from stock intake with stock filters to this new intake setup, you could buy some K&N filters and drop them in your stock boxes and save yourself $400...just my .02
10-26-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
Is that 19whp or crank? Like I said, 15hp would be expected from the air filter change and from the larger boxes / splitter.
Originally Posted by AMG-Jerry
Can you do you calculation based on the numbers for the C32 Air Filter test?
Here is the link to the calculator that I used
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10-26-2007, 06:19 PM
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This was wheel horspower.
How much does the car weight with driver in it? The calculator bases et, mph and total vehicle weight w/driver. It's just to give you an idea of horsepower, wind, elevation and other factors aren't taken into account with this calculator.
Here is the link to the calculator that I used
How much does the car weight with driver in it? The calculator bases et, mph and total vehicle weight w/driver. It's just to give you an idea of horsepower, wind, elevation and other factors aren't taken into account with this calculator.
Here is the link to the calculator that I used
Victor??
10-31-2007, 07:47 PM
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I just got my Needswings intake yesterday and installed it last night. Now, I have nothing to gain by promoting this product but all you need to do is try it. It really wakes this car up. Everyone who has installed this (there are 3 of us) are beyond impressed with the performance increase. It isn't one of those mods where you tell yourself, yea I can feel something. You will notice a huge difference.
You might be able to get one at a discount as long as you do a write up but you need to contact Rob at Needswings.
-Matt
You might be able to get one at a discount as long as you do a write up but you need to contact Rob at Needswings.
-Matt
