V12Godspeed

My brother bought a C32 and seems to be already starting trouble. I guess he is following my foot steps..lol. Some kid at his job challenged him, they are both stock. But i know how quick the 335 is, specially with a chip since it is the TT. The owner of the BMW says his 335I is stock though.

Questions is how will the C32 pair against it? Who do you see winning this race?. I am a former C32 owner before obtaining my E55 and I know how fast these C32's are. My C32 had ASP pulley though. Thanks for the input.

ItalianStallion

Awesome dude! My little brother plans on picking up a 335 around Spring time. Always nice to be a role model to the up and coming street racers lol.

Good luck to him. I think it is a driver dependant race to tell you the truth. It will be very close. Unfortunately, I think the Bimmer will have the advantage though, but it'll be a great race. Take care

V12Godspeed

Thanks!, I still think the C32 will take him out the hole if he gets traction....We will see.

MB_Forever

Doesn't the C32 have 50 extra hp and 50 torque? As long as he is not modded, the C32 should take him easily.....

Note: make sure the IC pump is working properly on the C32, they are famous for slowly failing just like the E55 pumps.

c32used

Isn't there a kill story where a stock C32 beat a stock 335i? I give it to the C32.

edited 2:31pm 12/19/02 (Well not a C32 but its next of kin the C55 and here is the link: https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/220650-finally-got-take-down-335i.html )

c32used

MB_Forever I learned that more HP doesn't always win a race...and I also heard that the 335i was underrated from the factory...just like the 2000 WS6 I raced and beat twice...its rated at 330-350hp but the factory claims 320hp. Keep in mind the WS6 was automatic and lighter and from the get go my car got nearly 2 car lenths ahead and maintained it pretty much tru-out the race here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mlvd_XjX90
If the guy takes of good without much spinning then the C32 will take him imo...

V12Godspeed

Nice , thanks for the post. I know it will be a close one and it will depend on the driver. Let's see if his ego let's me drive, lol...

c32used

I got the stage 1 done using different parts...I really feel this C32 with stock suspension can handle this power upgrade but won't know til the track day in the Spring. Too much power the car imo just spins too much making you loose vital time.

bud4ya

Is the 335 6 Speed or Auto?

bud4ya

This is a post i found. It may help. Maybe the owner of the C32 is on this board?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...ght=e46+m3+c32

IwantA124

The 335i is an underrated car. I've read and heard that a stock 335i pumps out 300hp to the wheels which in the specs is what they're suppose to do at the crank. It's faster then a rs5 around the track which I was very disapointed in Audi when I found out. I think the c32 can take it on the straights but it wont be by much. Hey man post more pics of your E55 i love that wheel and suspension set up.

c32AMG-DTM

According to R&T, 335i Coupe 0-60 tested at 4.8 and 1/4 mi 13.4 @ 105.1 mph... should be REAL close... basically a coin-flip

c32AMG-DTM

You're right... very underrated. I think you mean RS4 (probably a typo - there isn't an RS5... yet...), which is a spectacular car for sure, but not much more torque than the 335i (and probably peaks at higher revs, if I had to guess), and weighs roughly 400 lbs more...

Schizo0223

Two nights ago while I was driving around I had an opportunity to race a stock 335i.
Both of us didn't have much experience drag racing, so I guess skill wise it was an equal match.
I beat the 335i on both occasions quite single handedly.
However, I think if the 335i gets modded it will be a different story.

With turbo cars being fairly easy to mod initially with just a chip, I would seriously consider buying one if it weren't so ugly.

IwantA124

Sorry I ment S5...

TopGun32

335's are putting down from 270 to 290 at the wheels in terms of HP and TQ.

they tend to have less drivetrain loss than MB products. ( we have a torque converter that zaps power)

so.. 320 to 330 is about right

depends who has the best power band... will win.

from a dig.. I think the 335 will have an edge due to the better automatic 6 speed box.

Eurocharged Rick

let us know who wins, i think it will be a good race...if you need an IC pump to make sure it is working, they are on the website...

c32used

I did read the post and the stock C32 took the stock 335i but not the modded one....so if its stock for stock the C32 should win if driven right.

c32used

Gotta give you credit.....you are definitely a go getter! You will go places..

P.S. not trying to put you down.

c32used

Keep in mind these numbers are usually on a closed circuit with a professional driver...a car can only go as fast as you make it and if a person is more skilled chances are they can match or beat those times...but the average joe needs to practice to get those times. Different mags list different times for the quarter....the C32 according to the factory can do 13.50s but some drivers get worse some get better in stock form. I had a Yaamaha R1 and OEM specs says its a 10.37@140 but the average joe won't get those times.

V12Godspeed

You got it man, thanks!...The plenum should be almost there..lol!!

Eurocharged Rick

yup, where are my part numbers!

c32AMG-DTM

Yep, I realize what you're saying - but here we're assuming two relatively unskilled drivers (i.e. apples to apples), so they both probably won't equal what the pro's can achieve.

I only posted the 335i figures so that people who weren't aware could know what the car's tested performance has been. Back in the day the C32, driven by pro test drivers, usually managed a 4.9-5.1 0-60 time, and 13.5 - 13.6 ET with mph around 105 or 106. Therefore, if the 335 is doing roughly 4.8 and 13.4 @ 105 (with presumably a similiarly skilled test driver), these cars are EXTREMELY evenly matched, stock for stock. Should be a driver's race in the end.

c32used

I to feel it will be a drivers race but I still feel the C32 has the advantage like the two link posted above. Our SC kicks in so fast that I feel it helped me win against my friends WS6 which my driver is currently not a drag racer at his current age like he was like 15 years ago and out weights my other friend by like 70+lbs to add to our already heavier car compared to the WS6 and that driver loves to race anything and is exceptional at it and has taken his car and Ducati to the drag strip. My car won cause the HP started earlier then the stock WS6 but it pulled almost two cars ahead but no more. So that tells me if the driver of this race in the C32 has a better chance against the driver of the 335i. I know numbers are great but in the two races against the WS6 none of the drivers got anywhere near the claimed quarter mile claims. I think the C32 is engineered way better then what we think. Which makes me a proud owner!

MB_Forever

Actually, I've seen other reviews that published 0 to 60 times for 335 to be as slow as 5.2 seconds while other reviews managed as fast as 4.8 So I'm guessing, it is probably somewhere in between those two figures, maybe 5.0 seconds. I'm sure it is not 4.8 seconds because that would be a slap on the face to the current M3 model drivers. Generally, reviews numbers will vary all over the place depending on how "close" that magazine to the car manufacturer.