A turning point in Mercedes tuning...Performance Supercharger Pulley
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I wonder how much more boost I can crank out of this supercharger!!! With the RENNTech Crank pulley kit and ECU my car is already boosting 20psi (can provide proof). Think it might be overworking the supercharger if I added the code3 s/c pulley as well? hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
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Brandon is testing that now and will post results soon I believe
I wonder how much more boost I can crank out of this supercharger!!! With the RENNTech Crank pulley kit and ECU my car is already boosting 20psi (can provide proof). Think it might be overworking the supercharger if I added the code3 s/c pulley as well? hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
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Install is reported to be a 15 minute DIY procedure, I believe... check earlier in the thread, Brandon mentions it somewhere I think...
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Sounds as simple as un bolting old and bolting on new. Nice thing here is this pulley is right at the top so it is very easy to get to. the crank pulleys are a bit more challenging for someone that has never done one.
I myslef was going to go with the crank pulley till I started reaidng about this.
I myslef was going to go with the crank pulley till I started reaidng about this.
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Bud4ya "I myslef was going to go with the crank pulley till I started reaidng about this."
Like i said...
Originally Posted by Tectite.Metal
The other issue for no pics of this product is simple... Its generating interest, and anticipation.. This is a great buisness marketting espicially toward the individuals who were thinking of getting a crank pulley.. Now this new pulley has come along and they are holding back on purchasing the crank pulley.
Its simple and every SMART buisness does this and it does not matter how big or small of a buisness you have. Code 3 has a great idea, he believes in it and wants your buisness too. So if this release persuades even 20 neebies from getting the crank pulley.. Humm thats 20 x $600.. hummm well do the math.
NOW not saying this the reason cause i know its because we have seen LET and Code 3 create some amazzzing products for a lot less and their philosophy is screw the greedy companies.. Which is awesome for us but they are investing time and energy away from their families and hell.......... Time is Money toooo..
So guys be patient its going to be here...
Like i said...
Originally Posted by Tectite.Metal
The other issue for no pics of this product is simple... Its generating interest, and anticipation.. This is a great buisness marketting espicially toward the individuals who were thinking of getting a crank pulley.. Now this new pulley has come along and they are holding back on purchasing the crank pulley.
Its simple and every SMART buisness does this and it does not matter how big or small of a buisness you have. Code 3 has a great idea, he believes in it and wants your buisness too. So if this release persuades even 20 neebies from getting the crank pulley.. Humm thats 20 x $600.. hummm well do the math.
NOW not saying this the reason cause i know its because we have seen LET and Code 3 create some amazzzing products for a lot less and their philosophy is screw the greedy companies.. Which is awesome for us but they are investing time and energy away from their families and hell.......... Time is Money toooo..
So guys be patient its going to be here...
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Just to be 100% clear, this will work on the crossfire srt-6 as well? It seems no one involved in this new pulley has been providing updates on the crossfire forum and several members including myself are very interested in the pulley.
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I wonder how much more boost I can crank out of this supercharger!!! With the RENNTech Crank pulley kit and ECU my car is already boosting 20psi (can provide proof). Think it might be overworking the supercharger if I added the code3 s/c pulley as well? hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
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I don't recall that at all (bolded above). In fact, IIRC Brandon said something along the lines of "this should work with crank-pullied cars and just might keep those 335i's at bay" or something like that.
Agree 100% though that no test results have been posted yet - it'd be good to know...
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Originally Posted by code3smith
"....If you have not kept up with the thread on mbworld…As much as I am hoping this will work with a larger crank pulley, I dont have high hopes. I think belt slip is going to be too much to be useable…."
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I should have clarified my statement. I feel with the SC Pulley at its current size, there will probably be too much belt slip. But we are still going to test it, as you never know. I have planned all along to offer an in between pulley size if it does not work, for those running a crank pulley. Even if a larger pulley only adds 10/15 rw power, I think it would still be worth it.
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Brandon is it possible to increase the friction coefficient between the belt and pully to prevent slip? surface treatment- roughen the pulley groves? serrate the pulley itself to make it grip the belt? i knok this may affect belt longevity even if it works but just wanted to throw the idea out there.
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Keep in mind that ANY time you trun up the boost you are creating MORE cylinder pressure. This causes two issues, 1. Its harded to ignite a denser air/fuel mixture, so Its a good idea to DECREASE the spark gap, giving the ignition a easer way to ignite it. 2. More pressure makes for more pre-ignition. This is the MAIN reason to run a COLDER plug.
Could you get away running the stock plug, YES, but you will see MORE benefits from a colder plug, ESPICALLY on a hot day. Much less chance of pre-ignition/spark rattle.
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Hey there c32used,
I don't recall that at all (bolded above). In fact, IIRC Brandon said something along the lines of "this should work with crank-pullied cars and just might keep those 335i's at bay" or something like that.
Agree 100% though that no test results have been posted yet - it'd be good to know...
I don't recall that at all (bolded above). In fact, IIRC Brandon said something along the lines of "this should work with crank-pullied cars and just might keep those 335i's at bay" or something like that.
Agree 100% though that no test results have been posted yet - it'd be good to know...
I remember reading a post...but not gonna go thru the whole thing AMG-Jerry posted info on what crank pulley might work and it seems as though only the 178mm if I recall right. Either way Brandon said he would test it so still waiting on that info. I don't think I would take a chance of using a cranked pullied car with this S/C pulley but if I didn't have a 178mm I would keep this S/C pulley in mind.
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I should have clarified my statement. I feel with the SC Pulley at its current size, there will probably be too much belt slip. But we are still going to test it, as you never know. I have planned all along to offer an in between pulley size if it does not work, for those running a crank pulley. Even if a larger pulley only adds 10/15 rw power, I think it would still be worth it.
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Brandon is it possible to increase the friction coefficient between the belt and pully to prevent slip? surface treatment- roughen the pulley groves? serrate the pulley itself to make it grip the belt? i knok this may affect belt longevity even if it works but just wanted to throw the idea out there.
I thought you were gonna test this??...it could prove very profitable if testing was done on a cranked pullied car with your S/C pulley...if you haven't started testing please do so if you can so the interested parties can be informed please.
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In regards to how much boost is being generated, I did some runs today for everyone. These are back to back runs. I put the stock pulley on, and went out and did a few 70-108mph runs. I got home, swapped the Code3 Pulley on, and went back out for the same runs. I overlayed the data that matched up almost identically in time, and graphed it out for you. I was running the intake mod for both stock and code3 runs.
Time 70-108mph
Stock - 9.032 seconds
Code3 - 7.052 seconds
Difference - 1.98 seconds
There is a gear change in there as well. I do a lot of 70-100 testing, and I typically see the C3P pulley knocking about 2 seconds off the time. This is consistent with that. The boost numbers are in in/hg. To convert them, multiply the value by .4912, then subtract 14.7. That would yield the following results.
Boost in third gear
Stock - 13.39
Code3 - 16.88
Difference - 3.49
Time 70-108mph
Stock - 9.032 seconds
Code3 - 7.052 seconds
Difference - 1.98 seconds
There is a gear change in there as well. I do a lot of 70-100 testing, and I typically see the C3P pulley knocking about 2 seconds off the time. This is consistent with that. The boost numbers are in in/hg. To convert them, multiply the value by .4912, then subtract 14.7. That would yield the following results.
Boost in third gear
Stock - 13.39
Code3 - 16.88
Difference - 3.49
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If you shaved 2 sec's off from 70-108 and the boost has only gone up to around 16 you have me sold on this 
. I think running 16 pounds of boost is very safe for all of us that get nervous about blowing up the car with these upgrades. I was so concerned about doing some crank pulley upgrades because the boost was getting to be to high for my conservative approach.
Any guess if the intake makes a drastic difference in the performance of the car? I ask because if I move forward on this I may just start with the pulley for now. I mean would it be like 1 sec off with just the pulley and no intake?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Code3 Performance;2752915]In regards to how much boost is being generated, I did some runs today for everyone. These are back to back runs. I put the stock pulley on, and went out and did a few 70-108mph runs. I got home, swapped the Code3 Pulley on, and went back out for the same runs. I overlayed the data that matched up almost identically in time, and graphed it out for you. I was running the intake mod for both stock and code3 runs.
Time 70-108mph
Stock - 9.032 seconds
Code3 - 7.052 seconds
Difference - 1.98 seconds
There is a gear change in there as well. I do a lot of 70-100 testing, and I typically see the C3P pulley knocking about 2 seconds off the time. This is consistent with that. The boost numbers are in in/hg. To convert them, multiply the value by .4912, then subtract 14.7. That would yield the following results.
Boost in third gear
Stock - 13.39
Code3 - 16.88
Difference - 3.49
. I think running 16 pounds of boost is very safe for all of us that get nervous about blowing up the car with these upgrades. I was so concerned about doing some crank pulley upgrades because the boost was getting to be to high for my conservative approach.Any guess if the intake makes a drastic difference in the performance of the car? I ask because if I move forward on this I may just start with the pulley for now. I mean would it be like 1 sec off with just the pulley and no intake?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Code3 Performance;2752915]In regards to how much boost is being generated, I did some runs today for everyone. These are back to back runs. I put the stock pulley on, and went out and did a few 70-108mph runs. I got home, swapped the Code3 Pulley on, and went back out for the same runs. I overlayed the data that matched up almost identically in time, and graphed it out for you. I was running the intake mod for both stock and code3 runs.
Time 70-108mph
Stock - 9.032 seconds
Code3 - 7.052 seconds
Difference - 1.98 seconds
There is a gear change in there as well. I do a lot of 70-100 testing, and I typically see the C3P pulley knocking about 2 seconds off the time. This is consistent with that. The boost numbers are in in/hg. To convert them, multiply the value by .4912, then subtract 14.7. That would yield the following results.
Boost in third gear
Stock - 13.39
Code3 - 16.88
Difference - 3.49
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the intake mod will yield 10+RWHP..
I driven the car with the mod and basically it helps with throttle response and makes the supercharger scream a bit harder. But it will be very simple to install and better than changing air boxes and air tubes.
Like a SVT Cobra (Whzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Basically adding the pulley alone with a nice pair K&N's and making sure you have a nice FM HE.. would be the best start up set up. Heat Spacers is probably a good idea.
plugs and wires, resonator, and ECU tuning probably secondary.
I driven the car with the mod and basically it helps with throttle response and makes the supercharger scream a bit harder. But it will be very simple to install and better than changing air boxes and air tubes.
Like a SVT Cobra (Whzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Basically adding the pulley alone with a nice pair K&N's and making sure you have a nice FM HE.. would be the best start up set up. Heat Spacers is probably a good idea.
plugs and wires, resonator, and ECU tuning probably secondary.
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10 to the wheels is a pretty nice gain depending on the cost. Do you have to hack up any stock tubes or anything with the intake mod? What gets my ear with these 2 mods is "simple to install". It seems like it is just a chore to change the air filters in the car. So if I decided on just the pulley now and went the K&N route then that sounds like it will work well also. I guess I will have to look at the price of the intake mod vs the cost of the K&N's. Plus the power gain from the intake mod vs the K&N's.
So the pulley is the major part of the power and the intake is a nice supplement to the pulley.
For the cost of colder plugs it is probably worth changing those out as well to help with the extra boost/heat.
I am just in a circumstance for the next year or so where I just want some mods that can be taken on and taken off with ease and not a lot of time involved.
So the pulley is the major part of the power and the intake is a nice supplement to the pulley.
For the cost of colder plugs it is probably worth changing those out as well to help with the extra boost/heat.
I am just in a circumstance for the next year or so where I just want some mods that can be taken on and taken off with ease and not a lot of time involved.
the intake mod will yield 10+RWHP..
I driven the car with the mod and basically it helps with throttle response and makes the supercharger scream a bit harder. But it will be very simple to install and better than changing air boxes and air tubes.
Like a SVT Cobra (Whzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Basically adding the pulley alone with a nice pair K&N's and making sure you have a nice FM HE.. would be the best start up set up. Heat Spacers is probably a good idea.
plugs and wires, resonator, and ECU tuning probably secondary.
I driven the car with the mod and basically it helps with throttle response and makes the supercharger scream a bit harder. But it will be very simple to install and better than changing air boxes and air tubes.
Like a SVT Cobra (Whzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Basically adding the pulley alone with a nice pair K&N's and making sure you have a nice FM HE.. would be the best start up set up. Heat Spacers is probably a good idea.
plugs and wires, resonator, and ECU tuning probably secondary.
