C32 AMG, C55 AMG (W203) 2001 - 2007

RENNtech ECU Dyno numbers!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:06 PM
  #1  
hooleyboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,193
Likes: 3
From: Glendale Arizona
C55,SL55,C63
RENNtech ECU Dyno numbers!

I just got A RENNtech ECU flash and here are the numbers. My baseline Dyno run with K&N filters res-delete were 291.4HP and 301FTQ That was done a few weeks ago. Todays Run with the RENNtech ECU I made 309.9Hp and 319FTQ. I picked up an extra 18.5hp thats even better than what renntech claims. All Dyno runs were done on a Dyno Dynamics Dyno. here are the pics sorry for the size not photoshop at my office

Before RENNtech ECU



After RENNtech ECU

Last edited by hooleyboy; May 23, 2008 at 06:09 PM.
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:09 PM
  #2  
c3232c's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 333
Likes: 1
From: utah
02 c32 99 superduty
Sweet! Always nice to get more than you expected. Are you gonna hit the strip and see what that does for your quarter mile?
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:10 PM
  #3  
SLK55R's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,990
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area
'10 Porsche Turbo PDK, 500e, GL450
nice!

congratz on the extra HP!
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:13 PM
  #4  
IIIMBPIII's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area/ NY
07 SLK55, 08 R32
Awesome some nice gains!
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:15 PM
  #5  
hooleyboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,193
Likes: 3
From: Glendale Arizona
C55,SL55,C63
I think i will soon before it gets to hot here in Phoenix dont think this will put me in the 12's as im a 13.2 now but we will see if a can pull a 12.9 I think thats asking alot though for only 18.5hp gain
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:19 PM
  #6  
wawy's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,687
Likes: 28
From: Western Canada
2013 C63 AMG P31, 2014 GMC Sierra (6.2)
Wow! That's damm good!
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:29 PM
  #7  
c3232c's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 333
Likes: 1
From: utah
02 c32 99 superduty
Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I think i will soon before it gets to hot here in Phoenix dont think this will put me in the 12's as im a 13.2 now but we will see if a can pull a 12.9 I think thats asking alot though for only 18.5hp gain
I would think you could. All my mods dropped nearly (8/10's) off my 1/4 mile and I dont think I gained more than 30-300 hp with them.

Last edited by c3232c; May 24, 2008 at 12:40 PM.
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:53 PM
  #8  
JToups386's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
2005 C55 AMG
Originally Posted by c3232c
I would think you could. All my mods dropped nearly a second off my 1/4 mile and I dont think I gained more than 30-40 hp with them.
I'm not doubting your claims as I have no way to truly refute it. However, if you found 1 second of improvements from a 30-40 hp gain (assuming the higher), then you've tapped into something pretty amazing! It just doesn't add up, assuming all other factors remained the same. It should take more than 30 or 40 hp to drop a 3600 lb car that much in 1/4 ET, unless it's making that additional power throughout the entire power band, and likely would need to make even more power than that down low to get it rolling. The simple laws of physics apply here...
What other conditions changed? Did you drop weight out of the car? Did you have drag radials vs. standard tires? Etc, etc? I'd like to hear the rest of the story to help me make sense of it.

I can tell you I dropped a full second off my ET in my previous car by going from 346cid to 383cid, and picking up an additional 113 rwhp, and 108 rwtq, very proportional across the graph. This was also in a 3400 lb car.

I will agree his gain from the tune is impressive based on others' claims, however he'll be hard pressed to knock 3/10 off his ET with that gain, assuming all other parameters have not changed. Based on what I can see from his graph, it moved the power band up proportionately across the curve, which is a good thing. So, he might see a couple tenths gain from it.
However, the Phoenix heat will play a factor in having higher ET's, at least until the cooler fall weather returns.

Keep us posted. It's good to see real data!
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:38 PM
  #9  
MRAMG1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,342
Likes: 11
From: PA
S600, GL450, GLC 43
Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I think i will soon before it gets to hot here in Phoenix dont think this will put me in the 12's as im a 13.2 now but we will see if a can pull a 12.9 I think thats asking alot though for only 18.5hp gain
All things being equal, 18 HP equates to a -.18 1/4 mile. Personaly, I would have been disapointed from this gain, for what they charge, IMHO. Hence I have NO tune at this time, but I am leaning HEAVILY towards LET

See yeah
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:41 PM
  #10  
AMGMIZ's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 221
Likes: 1
From: CT
2003 EVO 8 612whp(sold) 2005 c55 amg R35 GTR
so how does the car feel?
price and did you have to mail in your ecu?
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 08:32 PM
  #11  
hooleyboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,193
Likes: 3
From: Glendale Arizona
C55,SL55,C63
I will have to post the power and TQ sheet as the HP is listed on my Air Fuel sheet the power and attitude of the car changed a bit. It feels better for sure The sound seems deeper at the Exhaust. The sifts are right at red line and feel amazing way better shifts at full throttle though the gears. It only took Dyno-Comp about an our to Flash the ECU files send via email so it was super fast. I got some lunch came back just in time for the dyno run and i was out the door. Kleemann's ecu has to be shipped out and there is a labor charge so that was $1400 out the door not including tax AND YOUR OUT OF A CAR FOR 3 DAYS! Out the door price for the RENNtech was 1700 with dyno runs and i got the car back the in about an hour. Plus they gave me RENNtech Badges for for for for $150 with taxes at 8.9% it worked out well. All I can say is Dyno-Comp in Scottsdale AZ is a killer shop and the Renntech guys there are first class. I was told i may pick up a few more HP as the weekend goes on. I can cherp the tires in second gear now and i wasnt about to do that before. All in all car feels better I'm not going to say way better but better. However it does feel way better though the gears.
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 08:34 PM
  #12  
loungn14's Avatar
SPONSOR
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,459
Likes: 152
From: Houston/ Austin /Toronto / UAE / Minneapolis / Orlando /Cincinnati
Eurocharged Performance ML63 and TT lambo
Originally Posted by MRAMG1
All things being equal, 18 HP equates to a -.18 1/4 mile. Personaly, I would have been disapointed from this gain, for what they charge, IMHO. Hence I have NO tune at this time, but I am leaning HEAVILY towards LET

See yeah
ya, me too. Funny thing about my tune, is when we were playing around with it at the strip, we actually lost .5 seconds on the quarter from tune alone.

LET tunes rule....
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 08:44 PM
  #13  
turbo16lbs's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 594
Likes: 2
From: Miami, FL
1991 Toyota MR2, 2002 C32 AMG
Originally Posted by MRAMG1
All things being equal, 18 HP equates to a -.18 1/4 mile. Personaly, I would have been disapointed from this gain, for what they charge, IMHO. Hence I have NO tune at this time, but I am leaning HEAVILY towards LET

See yeah
You'd also have to put into consideration that it's not a force inducted car like the C32 owners. I think he did pretty well if not fantastic. C55asleep? can be more of an insight on these motors than I.

Thank you OP for sharing your experience. I hope next time you'll have a video for us!
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 08:47 PM
  #14  
hooleyboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,193
Likes: 3
From: Glendale Arizona
C55,SL55,C63
I thought i did well too. This is just the beginning for this car.
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 09:22 PM
  #15  
c3232c's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 333
Likes: 1
From: utah
02 c32 99 superduty
Not trying to jack your thread Hooleyboy

Originally Posted by JToups386
I'm not doubting your claims as I have no way to truly refute it. However, if you found 1 second of improvements from a 30-40 hp gain (assuming the higher), then you've tapped into something pretty amazing! It just doesn't add up, assuming all other factors remained the same. It should take more than 30 or 40 hp to drop a 3600 lb car that much in 1/4 ET, unless it's making that additional power throughout the entire power band, and likely would need to make even more power than that down low to get it rolling. The simple laws of physics apply here...
What other conditions changed? Did you drop weight out of the car? Did you have drag radials vs. standard tires? Etc, etc? I'd like to hear the rest of the story to help me make sense of it.

I can tell you I dropped a full second off my ET in my previous car by going from 346cid to 383cid, and picking up an additional 113 rwhp, and 108 rwtq, very proportional across the graph. This was also in a 3400 lb car.

I will agree his gain from the tune is impressive based on others' claims, however he'll be hard pressed to knock 3/10 off his ET with that gain, assuming all other parameters have not changed. Based on what I can see from his graph, it moved the power band up proportionately across the curve, which is a good thing. So, he might see a couple tenths gain from it.
However, the Phoenix heat will play a factor in having higher ET's, at least until the cooler fall weather returns.

Keep us posted. It's good to see real data!
I did forget to mention I now have drag radials on 16'' enkei's. I was on 19'' inch wheels when I ran the slower time. I was trying to be modest about my gains from my mods and I never dynoed the car so I was just guessing. After I changed the pulley and the heat exchanger I had a completely different car. So maybe I have a few more ponies from my mods than I think. The funny thing is I ran a quicker time when it was 85 degrees out opposed to 55 degrees that same night.
Reply
Old May 23, 2008 | 09:54 PM
  #16  
c32used's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,213
Likes: 8
LET C32 2002
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:27 AM
  #17  
hooleyboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,193
Likes: 3
From: Glendale Arizona
C55,SL55,C63
Originally Posted by MRAMG1
All things being equal, 18 HP equates to a -.18 1/4 mile. Personaly, I would have been disapointed from this gain, for what they charge, IMHO. Hence I have NO tune at this time, but I am leaning HEAVILY towards LET

See yeah
I would like to see some real numbers on a dyno dynamics dyno that can show over 18.5rwhp and 19TQ gain from an ECU flash If you think the kleemann ECU is $1000 think again. Not to mention it took an hour and a half out of my day to do Renntech's ECU ; no overnighting ECU back and fourth. I would like to see other ECU programs that gain more with real data 5 minutes after the flash. If you drove it you would not be disapointed trust me. Right now im all about showing members real gains from added mods it only helps other members spend their mony better than i do

Last edited by hooleyboy; May 24, 2008 at 06:42 AM.
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 07:07 AM
  #18  
MRAMG1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,342
Likes: 11
From: PA
S600, GL450, GLC 43
Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I would like to see some real numbers on a dyno dynamics dyno that can show over 18.5rwhp and 19TQ gain from an ECU flash If you think the kleemann ECU is $1000 think again. Not to mention it took an hour and a half out of my day to do Renntech's ECU ; no overnighting ECU back and fourth. I would like to see other ECU programs that gain more with real data 5 minutes after the flash. If you drove it you would not be disapointed trust me. Right now im all about showing members real gains from added mods it only helps other members spend their mony better than i do
Sorry guys, I thought he was a C32 Which I would have been VERY disapointed with those numbers BTW.

I forgot to read his sig, me bad.

For a NA car, that IS a nice chunck of change, but it still costs WAY too much, IMHO. And the 1/4 drop would still be the same as my original post.

See yeah

Last edited by MRAMG1; May 24, 2008 at 07:11 AM.
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 09:48 AM
  #19  
des-sil-amg's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
c32
i thought he was a c32 as well, dos anyone know any dyno numbers for a c32 with a tune?(since we're on the subject of tunes)
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 09:50 AM
  #20  
mkonei's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 695
Likes: 0
From: Delran, NJ
05 C55
i think its a great gain for a NA car. yeah its expensive, but you get what you pay for. the fact that he was down for 90 minutes is a bonus also. has LET put up any dyno sheets for their 55 na tune? i know theyre big on the the 32, but i dont remember seeing anything on the 55 na. as far as et goes, roughly 10-12 hp is usually good for a tenth or so. good tires, cool air, and the right track could get him in the 12s. that would be nice to see, considering the extent of the mods. thanks for sharing hooleyboy





Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I would like to see some real numbers on a dyno dynamics dyno that can show over 18.5rwhp and 19TQ gain from an ECU flash If you think the kleemann ECU is $1000 think again. Not to mention it took an hour and a half out of my day to do Renntech's ECU ; no overnighting ECU back and fourth. I would like to see other ECU programs that gain more with real data 5 minutes after the flash. If you drove it you would not be disapointed trust me. Right now im all about showing members real gains from added mods it only helps other members spend their mony better than i do
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 11:29 AM
  #21  
c55asleep?'s Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 784
Likes: 1
From: Miami
Bicycle
Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I would like to see some real numbers on a dyno dynamics dyno that can show over 18.5rwhp and 19TQ gain from an ECU flash If you think the kleemann ECU is $1000 think again. Not to mention it took an hour and a half out of my day to do Renntech's ECU ; no overnighting ECU back and fourth. I would like to see other ECU programs that gain more with real data 5 minutes after the flash. If you drove it you would not be disapointed trust me. Right now im all about showing members real gains from added mods it only helps other members spend their mony better than i do
The numbers seem good as I dynoed 314rwhp with renntech tune and the c/f airbox. Brandon at kleemann took care of me when I purchased my headers. Everything for this car is expensive but believe me its all worth it. Btw DO NOT go the cheap route with these engines at the end of the day it is a Benz's.
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 11:38 AM
  #22  
juicee63's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,952
Likes: 4
From: Hollywood CA
2011 twin turboed prius
Originally Posted by c3232c
I did forget to mention I now have drag radials on 16'' enkei's. I was on 19'' inch wheels when I ran the slower time. I was trying to be modest about my gains from my mods and I never dynoed the car so I was just guessing. After I changed the pulley and the heat exchanger I had a completely different car. So maybe I have a few more ponies from my mods than I think. The funny thing is I ran a quicker time when it was 85 degrees out opposed to 55 degrees that same night.

Do you have the slips , that makes no sense unless the run at 55 degrees was traction or driver limited. You cannot defeat the atmosphere all cars will make more power at 55 degrees than they do at 85 so you likely erred during your 55 degree run. Other explanation is your car had a mechanical erreor or ecu malfunction during the 55 degree run. I would love to see the slips side by side.

No way you could gain 1 second from 30-40 hp , it would take 3x that however adding the lighter wheels may have freed up 30-40 hp making your gains more like 60-80 which could speed up the car quite a bit.
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 12:09 PM
  #23  
c3232c's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 333
Likes: 1
From: utah
02 c32 99 superduty
Ok here we go

The faster time slip is at work and its a 13.88. So I guess I better clarify, We'll say 8/10's faster than a whole second. Remember I still have 19's on the front with these runs. As far as it running better when its hot is a mystery to me as well, Maybe its the IK20's I dont know?? The picture with the 3 timeslips is all in the same day. Far left-6.35 pm, Middle 2.06 am, Right 1.00 am. My car numbers are different because I was at the midnight drags for the later runs.
Attached Thumbnails RENNtech ECU Dyno numbers!-pics2-007.jpg   RENNtech ECU Dyno numbers!-pics3-008.jpg   RENNtech ECU Dyno numbers!-3-002.jpg  

Last edited by c3232c; May 24, 2008 at 12:50 PM.
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:30 PM
  #24  
hooleyboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,193
Likes: 3
From: Glendale Arizona
C55,SL55,C63
Just wondering what other ECU programs get for numbers. I know stuff I read on RENNtech they only claimed 10ph from there ECU. But just a quick update on the Flash i got. after driving today I did notice and feel a much better pull in the car it also seemed to deepen the exhaust note. I hear the ECU flash can make a few more HP after some driving with it. So now i'm noticing more of a difference in feel
Reply
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:33 PM
  #25  
c3232c's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 333
Likes: 1
From: utah
02 c32 99 superduty
Originally Posted by hooleyboy
Just wondering what other ECU programs get for numbers. I know stuff I read on RENNtech they only claimed 10ph from there ECU. But just a quick update on the Flash i got. after driving today I did notice and feel a much better pull in the car it also seemed to deepen the exhaust note. I hear the ECU flash can make a few more HP after some driving with it. So now i'm noticing more of a difference in feel
Sweet! I still think you can run a high 12 on a cool night.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:45 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE