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Old 10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
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Does anyone have any hard information on having the Code3 S/C pulley and any of the various crank pulleys available? Iam sure alot of people on this forum would love to know more about the possibilities of this mod.. I figured no one has started a thread about them yet, but it was eventually going to happen and I cant wait to know more!!!!



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Originally Posted by jm6001
Does anyone have any hard information on having the Code3 S/C pulley and any of the various crank pulleys available? Iam sure alot of people on this forum would love to know more about the possibilities of this mod.. I figured no one has started a thread about them yet, but it was eventually going to happen and I cant wait to know more!!!!



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Eleventeen has done it. Do a search on this forum, also the SRT-6 Crossfire forum. Anything over a 178 with the C3 is dubious, although it might be feasible with a larger intake manifold (increased volume/reduced boost pressure). Of course then there's the fuel issue etc., etc...

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...725&highlight=
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Originally Posted by CKovach
Eleventeen has done it. Do a search on this forum, also the SRT-6 Crossfire forum. Anything over a 178 with the C3 is dubious, although it might be feasible with a larger intake manifold (increased volume/reduced boost pressure). Of course then there's the fuel issue etc., etc...

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Well I have looked every where for information and nothing is very informative, otherwise I wouldnt have even started the thread.. I have read threw our forums there forums and various other ones; stil havent found any good information... I thought Code3 was doing some testing? If they would chime in and give us something instead of nothing it would be great..
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If you search you will find what you are looking for. There are a couple people doing it. Eleveteen stands out as a member that has it. I know the boost is at max.

Originally Posted by jm6001
Does anyone have any hard information on having the Code3 S/C pulley and any of the various crank pulleys available? Iam sure alot of people on this forum would love to know more about the possibilities of this mod.. I figured no one has started a thread about them yet, but it was eventually going to happen and I cant wait to know more!!!!



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If you search you will find what you are looking for. There are a couple people doing it. Eleveteen stands out as a member that has it. I know the boost is at max.
X2 - Exactly what Craig said.
The caveats are:
1. Max boost, if running a crank pulley larger than 178mm
2. Belt slip

C3P is working on a solution to the latter.
Stay tuned for some VERY exciting mods coming.
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Originally Posted by AirFrcd
X2 - Exactly what Craig said.
The caveats are:
1. Max boost, if running a crank pulley larger than 178mm
2. Belt slip

C3P is working on a solution to the latter.
Stay tuned for some VERY exciting mods coming.
lol, maybe it would be best if you didn't say this in every product thread. I think I'm going to get one of those flying pig avatars. To the OP there have been a couple of people running the combo pulley. They certainly haven't set the world on fire. I'm not sure if they've even done a dyno test and tune. Code3 tested the SC pulley with the 185 and it was a failure because of overboost. Now, we get to keep hearing about all these incredible mods coming out, but of course it never becomes reality.

Just vaporware and hype.
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lol, maybe it would be best if you didn't say this in every product thread...
Now, we get to keep hearing about all these incredible mods coming out, but of course it never becomes reality.

Just vaporware and hype.
I will prove you wrong shortly
Now go away.
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I will prove you wrong shortly
Now go away.
I won't be keeping my fingers crossed........
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Eleventeen has done it. Do a search on this forum, also the SRT-6 Crossfire forum. Anything over a 178 with the C3 is dubious, although it might be feasible with a larger intake manifold (increased volume/reduced boost pressure). Of course then there's the fuel issue etc., etc...

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...725&highlight=
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I like this answer the best
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I actually just posted up yesterday on Crossfireforum.org about this:

This set up has physically worked well so far, but it has only been about 4-5 months. However, the ECU doesn't like seeing the peak boost. I keep getting P0108 - MAP Circuit High Input code since I am maxing out the MAP (just barely) at 22 psi in 3rd. I really need to get it on the dyno to see what actually happens when I hit that pressure. Upper RPM doesn't seem to be much different from the ASP alone (if any), but lower and mid-range RPM's pull hard. It now hits 12 lbs. of boost by 2000 RPM and maybe even a little sooner (hard to watch boost gauge and tach at the same time). A more precise dyno tune, rather than my mail-in, and controlling IAT spikes should make for more top-end power. Overall, the car DEFINITELY feels faster on the street than it did with the ASP alone (due to all the extra low to mid-range power). I'm not sure how it will translate at the strip where you spend more time in the upper RPM range. I plan on hitting the track in the next week or two, so I'll post up as soon as soon as I have some 1/4 mile numbers.

P.S. The C32 MAP is a typical 3 wire 5V setup. The P0108 CEL can be remedied by using a standard MAP clamp, which I do have, but I need to get the car on the dyno to get it safely dialed in.

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Here is the link to the other forum. Brian Brave put up some great numbers that make it easier to understand. Thanks Brian.

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=28783
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Are you still running this setup? If so how is it holding up? Any new info?
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Originally Posted by Eleventeen
I actually just posted up yesterday on Crossfireforum.org about this:

This set up has physically worked well so far, but it has only been about 4-5 months. However, the ECU doesn't like seeing the peak boost. I keep getting P0108 - MAP Circuit High Input code since I am maxing out the MAP (just barely) at 22 psi in 3rd. I really need to get it on the dyno to see what actually happens when I hit that pressure. Upper RPM doesn't seem to be much different from the ASP alone (if any), but lower and mid-range RPM's pull hard. It now hits 12 lbs. of boost by 2000 RPM and maybe even a little sooner (hard to watch boost gauge and tach at the same time). A more precise dyno tune, rather than my mail-in, and controlling IAT spikes should make for more top-end power. Overall, the car DEFINITELY feels faster on the street than it did with the ASP alone (due to all the extra low to mid-range power). I'm not sure how it will translate at the strip where you spend more time in the upper RPM range. I plan on hitting the track in the next week or two, so I'll post up as soon as soon as I have some 1/4 mile numbers.

P.S. The C32 MAP is a typical 3 wire 5V setup. The P0108 CEL can be remedied by using a standard MAP clamp, which I do have, but I need to get the car on the dyno to get it safely dialed in.
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Are you still running this setup? If so how is it holding up? Any new info?
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I wanted more boost as well, so instead of more experimentation I'm trading in my Code3 Pulley for a LET 185 kit.

Don't get me wrong, the Code3 Pulley runs great and I haven't had ANY issues with it, but i want more power.
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I wanted more boost as well, so instead of more experimentation I'm trading in my Code3 Pulley for a LET 185 kit.

Don't get me wrong, the Code3 Pulley runs great and I haven't had ANY issues with it, but i want more power.
very good decision......you won't look back
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So, how much boost does the Code 3 pulley alone peak at? and what peak level of boost (roughly) can be generated with a 185mm crank pulley as an alternative? What is normal peak stock boost?

How much boost is too much on these cars? I read that hitting 22psi is causing overboost ECU code? That sounds quite high for pump gas.

I would like to find a safe performance increase with modest gains while keeping the car reliable. Does the belt slip on the smaller Code3 SC pulley? How much gain does it offer?

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Now go away.
Been two months....
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Been two months....
Perhaps one man's "shortly" is another's "long, long wait"...?
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Been two months....
I know, trust me - I have been without my car since October 1, or 10 weeks, and I have several thousand $ out of pocket

I will be posting a thread VERY soon with my overall impressions vis-a-vis:
1. Performance outcome - before/after
2. Supplier response and ability/inability to deliver on promises

Stay tuned folks.
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I know, trust me - I have been without my car since October 1, or 10 weeks, and I have several thousand $ out of pocket

I will be posting a thread VERY soon with my overall impressions vis-a-vis:
1. Performance outcome - before/after
2. Supplier response and ability/inability to deliver on promises

Stay tuned folks.
trust me, I know how you feel. At least you have something to show for it.
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trust me, I know how you feel. At least you have something to show for it.
I do?????

Jake,

I haven't seen my car for 10+ weeks.
I do commiserate with you bro, trust me.
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So whats up Fellas, ASP + code 3, will it work or not? Any recommendations? I dont want to take the ASP pulley off,,,,lazy,,,,,If I can just add a SC pulley it would be . What size crank pulley would be compared to this setup. 187mm, 188???
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Originally Posted by mdncn2762
So whats up Fellas, ASP + code 3, will it work or not?...
They’ll physically work. However, Eleventeen and two SRT-6 enthusiasts who’ve attempted the combination suffered mixed and potentially catastrophic results. Seems the ECU and fuel supply system are inexorably overcome by the additional airflow.

One MIA sponsor that tested the setup promised he would have “injectors available with pricing in the next day or two” (in October) as a solution to going dangerously lean at WOT. He has yet to post again regarding their hardware.

Wouldn’t want to read of yours having melted a piston or two on the autobahn by chancing it before a suitable solution has been brought to market.

reference: https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...eave-room.html
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Originally Posted by mdncn2762
So whats up Fellas, ASP + code 3, will it work or not? Any recommendations? I dont want to take the ASP pulley off,,,,lazy,,,,,If I can just add a SC pulley it would be . What size crank pulley would be compared to this setup. 187mm, 188???
Safer bet would be to go to the 181 or 185 crank pully. Don't do the code3 plus asp, its not a good situation. I have been there presonally and have seen the car fall on its face. Its not worth the risk.


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