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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Mustang Dyno Results

I'd like your opinion on these results. My only mods are PowerChip tune, C3 pulley. + CM30, Iridium 16s, res delete and Green filters.
I was expecting a little bit more with the mods. Or is this what it is. do I need a combination of pulleys. BTW, the Code3 CAI is next. Thanks for your comments.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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for a mustang thats about right....it is one of the more "true" dynos and always puts down lower numbers.

Did you have a baseline before the mods?
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Mustang Dyno's always report a little less, I dynoed this weekend my FD3s and came out with 270whp at 8 psi on the turbo when i should have easily pulled over 300. I would try a Dynojet and you may be pleased.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by loungn14
for a mustang thats about right....it is one of the more "true" dynos and always puts down lower numbers.

Did you have a baseline before the mods?
nope, I assumed evrything else as stock and after the mods, this is the outcome. so if the stock BHP is 349, I wonder what it would be now? Is there an assumed % added from RWHP figure?

But, boy, the car is soo much faster with just these mods.

The owner of EIP races his new Lancer Evo MR (apparently so because there were a bunch of Evos and STIs) and he had high praises for the performance of the C32s. He was quite certain the test results were as close as it gets.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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How much do those wheels weigh? I can't help but to think you are giving up a noticable amount of power with those.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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How much do those wheels weigh? I can't help but to think you are giving up a noticable amount of power with those.

Heavy, but not that heavy, I sacrificed for looks.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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20% driveline loss is about right. some may think its high, but I got a 20% loss on a DD dyno. Looks like your getting 20% as well.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Even converting back at a 20% loss, you are still making less power than what the car is advertised to produced. Something doesn't sound right here, especially if you say the car pulls very hard. Did you update the tune after your modifications?
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Originally Posted by 60n5pt1
I'd like your opinion on these results. My only mods are PowerChip tune, C3 pulley. + CM30, Iridium 16s, res delete and Green filters.
I was expecting a little bit more with the mods. Or is this what it is. do I need a combination of pulleys. BTW, the Code3 CAI is next. Thanks for your comments.
There is a reason why the mustang dyno is called "the depressor" you should have done a stock dyno to compare if mods added much. Try a Dynojet it should put a bigger smile on your face. By the way Res delete= no increase at all in HP/TQ only sound. Try to get a heat exchanger so the cm30 can shine basically you increased flow but oem heat exchanger only permits so much flow so basically you are overworking the cm30 imo.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Without a baseline, everything would be speculation. No reason to chase your tail around. I would remove/reinstall the pulley on the dyno again, same day. Some datalogging would be helpful as well to make sure that everything is ok with the car. Also, if you don't have cooling mods, you are surely pulling a lot of timing because of high IATs. What plug gap are you running? If you are running the stock gap, I would suggest gapping them down. of course, an intake solution would help as well.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
20% driveline loss is about right. some may think its high, but I got a 20% loss on a DD dyno. Looks like your getting 20% as well.
exactly, the c32 seems to hit 22% on crank loss to the wheels...
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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There is a reason why the mustang dyno is called "the depressor" you should have done a stock dyno to compare if mods added much. Try a Dynojet it should put a bigger smile on your face. By the way Res delete= no increase at all in HP/TQ only sound. Try to get a heat exchanger so the cm30 can shine basically you increased flow but oem heat exchanger only permits so much flow so basically you are overworking the cm30 imo.
+1. I only dyno at 360 ish on the mustang.....it is depressing. The mustang and the dyno dynamics are the more "true" dynos out there. Take it for what its worth...
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Even converting back at a 20% loss, you are still making less power than what the car is advertised to produced. Something doesn't sound right here, especially if you say the car pulls very hard. Did you update the tune after your modifications?
Soon after installing the C3pulley, I dropped by VRP, who btw tuned it the first time, in Costa Mesa, for a retune, on my way down to Ensanada. It didn't
feel any stronger then. Two weeks later, my IC pump slowly crapped out.
It was only after installing the CM30 did the car perform as it should.
From this forum, I read there's no need to gap the Iridium 16s, just install.

But, here's the bottom line. I don't track the car, I don't know exactly what my 0 to 60 is nor 1/4 mile is. I drive the car almost daily 4.5 miles one way to work.
On weekend nights, occasionally, I'd blow away STIs, EVOs, Audis, M3s, Mustangs,etc. safely of course.
Fastest speed: 160MPH at 5:00 P.M. weekday on I-880 South, Miliptas. And this before any mods. I know, hard to believe, how I got to do it is a long story.

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Loss and dyno dynonamics & mustang can be as high as 22% for front engine, rear wheel drive, automatics.

With that said even on mustang those number seem a tad bit low. On mustang/DD W210 E55s stock put around 270-280 stock (roughly 350 crank HP). Are you sure the car is running in tip top shape?
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 60n5pt1
...On weekend nights, occasionally, I'd blow away STIs, EVOs, Audis, M3s, Mustangs,etc. safely of course.
Fastest speed: 160MPH at 5:00 P.M. weekday on I-880 South, Miliptas. And this before any mods. I know, hard to believe, how I got to do it is a long story.

So you kill M3s out there in San Jose? I like it! There are punch of M/S/A/E(s) out there. They all drive like kings of the road. Too bad for me, I can’t kill nothing there. Everytime in San Jose, I am with wife and kid lol.

PS: From your dyno, weight is 3750bls? I thought our car is about 4150 bls something?
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Its your best bet to find the dyno you want to use and stick with it. I do all my dynoing on a Dyno Dynamics. If I went right across the street from my office i could use a mustang dyno. but since i have started on a DD dyno all my mod gains are based on DD numbers. For example if I did a base line say on a dyno jet and for 305whp a day later i had software installed and then dyno'ed in on a mustang dyno and got 310whp that isn't doing you any good, and in fact might **** you off.

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Good call Hooley, honestly you are lucky enough to have picked the best dyno from the begining, DD really is above the rest. Mustang is a decent imitation but not as good, dynojet is just an arcade machine at best, its great for boosting egos... but doesn't really do any real world good.

Don't let the lower numbers from loading dynos bother you 60n, at least you are getting real world numbers, and all your gains from mods will be much more realistic and in line with what is actually happening on the road. keep it up
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Originally Posted by moosejaw
Mustang Dyno's always report a little less, I dynoed this weekend my FD3s and came out with 270whp at 8 psi on the turbo when i should have easily pulled over 300. I would try a Dynojet and you may be pleased.




End result will be the same, the car is only putting out what it puts out, regardless of the dyno. You can change the chart and get a better result, BUT the qtr mile will remain the same.
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Originally Posted by 60n5pt1
Soon after installing the C3pulley, I dropped by VRP, who btw tuned it the first time, in Costa Mesa, for a retune, on my way down to Ensanada. It didn't
feel any stronger then. Two weeks later, my IC pump slowly crapped out.
It was only after installing the CM30 did the car perform as it should.
From this forum, I read there's no need to gap the Iridium 16s, just install.

But, here's the bottom line. I don't track the car, I don't know exactly what my 0 to 60 is nor 1/4 mile is. I drive the car almost daily 4.5 miles one way to work.
On weekend nights, occasionally, I'd blow away STIs, EVOs, Audis, M3s, Mustangs,etc. safely of course.
Fastest speed: 160MPH at 5:00 P.M. weekday on I-880 South, Miliptas. And this before any mods. I know, hard to believe, how I got to do it is a long story.



That was Mexico , correct??? :

The problem is see is that you need a Jerry Tune or a Wayne Tune. Turned my car into a LoungEtr

From what I hear from LoungEtn, I hear that plugs and wires will help everytime !!!
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Originally Posted by Newzchspy
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End result will be the same, the car is only putting out what it puts out, regardless of the dyno. You can change the chart and get a better result, BUT the qtr mile will remain the same.

That could not be any further from the truth. You obviously haven't dynoed your car on various different dyno brands. The numbers can vary DRASTICALLY so to say the dyno doesn't matter is like saying the tires on your car don't matter b/c all tires are made of rubber... doesn't work like that.
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That could not be any further from the truth. You obviously haven't dynoed your car on various different dyno brands. The numbers can vary DRASTICALLY so to say the dyno doesn't matter is like saying the tires on your car don't matter b/c all tires are made of rubber... doesn't work like that.
im not following you...or maybe perhaps your misunderstood?

I think what glenn was getting at is every dyno brand is going to be different even with the same mods on the car. The only thing that will stay constant is the fact that the car didn't change. (or what glenn is getting at is the time for you to run a 1/4 mile...with all other factors negated- temp/driver/etc)
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Originally Posted by Newzchspy
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That was Mexico , correct??? :

The problem is see is that you need a Jerry Tune or a Wayne Tune. Turned my car into a LoungEtr

From what I hear from LoungEtn, I hear that plugs and wires will help everytime !!!

How could this be in Mexico? He did state I-880 south around Milpitas.
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How could this be in Mexico? He did state I-880 south around Milpitas.
You misunderstood,
Milpitas was where he did the 160mph run......

Ensenada (not Ensanada (rhymes with Canada?) is in Mexico while on his way there (may be to see the Donkey Show) he stopped by VRP toi get a tune?
Correct?
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
That could not be any further from the truth. You obviously haven't dynoed your car on various different dyno brands. The numbers can vary DRASTICALLY so to say the dyno doesn't matter is like saying the tires on your car don't matter b/c all tires are made of rubber... doesn't work like that.
OK, sounds like you know it all, so I wont give my opinion. Point is:

If the car makes X on Dyno # 1 and Y on Dyno # 2, the only difference is the graph numbers that you are getting. Dyno doesnt make a spit of difference in what the car actually puts out. Its the same output, different numbers. The qtr would be the same coming off either dyno as the car and engine didn't change at all. Even on the dyno you ran, the numbers are awfully low for the mods you've done. Have any timeslips from a qtr run?
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Originally Posted by CLKCLK;3118840[B
]How could this be in Mexico?:crazy[/B]: He did state I-880 south around Milpitas.
Oh so he did do a 160 MPH run ON a public highway in the State of California!!! Just wondering?? HMMM
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