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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:37 AM
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so just out of curiousity

can a kleemann s/ced c55 keep up with a chipped/modded c63?
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:43 AM
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Idk modded c63 are running mid 11s , what are S/C c55s running?
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:17 AM
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drag times said a c55 with keelman sc at 6lbs , ecu tune, exhaust and headers are running 11.9
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:19 AM
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somethings better left unsaid ...
I don't think so ..
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
drag times said a c55 with keelman sc at 6lbs , ecu tune, exhaust and headers are running 11.9
thats it? dang thats pretty slow wit everything
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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thats it? dang thats pretty slow wit everything
yeah...probably from the low boost. I wish someone made a c32 turbo kit already and just call it a day.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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I would say Yes it would keep up with a ecu'ed C63. Dragtimes realy cant be counted on when it comes to how fast a car is. The 11.9 could have been done in 100 degree heat at 4000ft elevation for all we know. There are alot of factors that are not factored in when it comes to posted times. With the standard bolt ons that go with someone willing to SC like headers and free flowing exhaust etc... I think the C55 takes it.
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I would say Yes it would keep up with a ecu'ed C63. Dragtimes realy cant be counted on when it comes to how fast a car is. The 11.9 could have been done in 100 degree heat at 4000ft elevation for all we know. There are alot of factors that are not factored in when it comes to posted times. With the standard bolt ons that go with someone willing to SC like headers and free flowing exhaust etc... I think the C55 takes it.
We shall see won't we Hooleyboy.....
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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"We'll be honest. When Kleemann USA's director, Brandon Grantham, delivered his company's pewter-colored 55S8, we figured it might knock a few 10ths off the stocker's already impressive times, possibly putting it in the speedy company of, say, an Aston Martin DB9 or Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. Then we saw the claimed power numbers of 570 horses and 580 pound-feet of torque. Oops.

Starting with the C55's hand-built, naturally aspirated 5.4-liter V-8, Kleemann bolted on an Autorotor Lysholm supercharger with a water-to-air intercooler good for 7.3 psi of boost ($11,000) and its "Super Sound" exhaust system ($7900), which includes larger stainless-steel tubular headers with bigger down pipes, freer-flowing catalysts, and straight-through mufflers and resonators. Sticking with the stock AMG Speedshift five-speed automatic, Kleemann then added a recalibrated engine computer ($1000) to ensure the proper air-to-fuel ratio. The 55S8 was suddenly a supercar-eating beast. No, seriously.

At the test track, the 55S8 thundered to 60 in just 3.8 seconds and through the quarter-mile in only 12.2 at 117. To put the 55S8 in the same league as the DB9 and 612 would be an insult—to which one we're not really sure. The 55S8's numbers devour the Ferrari Challenge Stradale's (4.0, 12.4) and Porsche 911 GT3's (4.0, 12.3). They eat up the Dodge Viper's to 60 (3.9) and the Lamborghini Murciélago's in the quarter (12.6).

Then there's the Kleemann's 5-to-60 street-start time of 3.9, which is lower than all of those cars', not to mention the Saleen S7's (5.1). Heck, it's just 0.2 second behind the 605-hp Porsche Carrera GT's.

Now, in case you're thinking the Kleemann was juiced with nitrous and ran with the grace of a rodeo bull, let us assure you its tank was full of good ol' premium unleaded"

ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (mfr's claim): 570 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (mfr's claim): 580 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 181.5 in Width: 68.0 in Height: 55.6 in
Curb weight: 3830 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.9 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.2 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.2 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 187 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._file/(page)/1
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wawy
"We'll be honest. When Kleemann USA's director, Brandon Grantham, delivered his company's pewter-colored 55S8, we figured it might knock a few 10ths off the stocker's already impressive times, possibly putting it in the speedy company of, say, an Aston Martin DB9 or Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. Then we saw the claimed power numbers of 570 horses and 580 pound-feet of torque. Oops.

Starting with the C55's hand-built, naturally aspirated 5.4-liter V-8, Kleemann bolted on an Autorotor Lysholm supercharger with a water-to-air intercooler good for 7.3 psi of boost ($11,000) and its "Super Sound" exhaust system ($7900), which includes larger stainless-steel tubular headers with bigger down pipes, freer-flowing catalysts, and straight-through mufflers and resonators. Sticking with the stock AMG Speedshift five-speed automatic, Kleemann then added a recalibrated engine computer ($1000) to ensure the proper air-to-fuel ratio. The 55S8 was suddenly a supercar-eating beast. No, seriously.

At the test track, the 55S8 thundered to 60 in just 3.8 seconds and through the quarter-mile in only 12.2 at 117. To put the 55S8 in the same league as the DB9 and 612 would be an insult—to which one we're not really sure. The 55S8's numbers devour the Ferrari Challenge Stradale's (4.0, 12.4) and Porsche 911 GT3's (4.0, 12.3). They eat up the Dodge Viper's to 60 (3.9) and the Lamborghini Murciélago's in the quarter (12.6).

Then there's the Kleemann's 5-to-60 street-start time of 3.9, which is lower than all of those cars', not to mention the Saleen S7's (5.1). Heck, it's just 0.2 second behind the 605-hp Porsche Carrera GT's.

Now, in case you're thinking the Kleemann was juiced with nitrous and ran with the grace of a rodeo bull, let us assure you its tank was full of good ol' premium unleaded"

ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (mfr's claim): 570 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (mfr's claim): 580 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 181.5 in Width: 68.0 in Height: 55.6 in
Curb weight: 3830 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.9 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.2 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.2 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 187 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._file/(page)/1

gotta love it.....
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mb_c55amg_guy
gotta love it.....
True; it also seems to answer the question of which would win, a blown C55 or ECU/TCU tuned C63. It would be close, but sounds like the C63 would walk the C55...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
True; it also seems to answer the question of which would win, a blown C55 or ECU/TCU tuned C63. It would be close, but sounds like the C63 would walk the C55...
I am not to sure about that....Also a lot depends on the driver...if the guy cant drive or has no idea what the hell he is doing....it would be an interesting show....
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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arent they both autos though..lol? Kinda takes the misshifting out of the equation..plus isn't the new 7speed transmission in the c63 quicker too?

I think they just need to turn up the boost.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
arent they both autos though..lol? Kinda takes the misshifting out of the equation..plus isn't the new 7speed transmission in the c63 quicker too?

I think they just need to turn up the boost.
Dont know, maybe we could ask someone with a C63
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
arent they both autos though..lol? Kinda takes the misshifting out of the equation..plus isn't the new 7speed transmission in the c63 quicker too?

I think they just need to turn up the boost.
yes to the first question, and i think so to the second...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EURO KNG
Idk modded c63 are running mid 11s , what are S/C c55s running?

What mods are you refering to when speaking about a C63 running mid 11's???
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by c55asleep?
What mods are you refering to when speaking about a C63 running mid 11's???
Forum sponsor MHP's C63 has run 11.59 @ almost 120 mph - with drag radials, ECU/TCU tuning, CF airbox and higher flowing filters.

An MKB C63 has achieved similar results with ECU tuning, shorty headers and high-flow filters IIRC. I think a Kleemann C63 has been in the same ballpark with ECU tuning, shorty headers and high-flow cats

A lightly modded C63 is nothing to be trifled with apparently - mid 11's at 120ish is damn quick
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Forum sponsor MHP's C63 has run 11.59 @ almost 120 mph - with drag radials, ECU/TCU tuning, CF airbox and higher flowing filters.

An MKB C63 has achieved similar results with ECU tuning, shorty headers and high-flow filters IIRC. I think a Kleemann C63 has been in the same ballpark with ECU tuning, shorty headers and high-flow cats

A lightly modded C63 is nothing to be trifled with apparently - mid 11's at 120ish is damn quick
Thats exactly what I was referring to lol
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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I thought it was based on ecu tuning alone, but with headers, airbox, & tuning it might be possible? Wow they are picking up over 60rwhp with these mods hmm..
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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I think the s/c C55 would have the upper hand.

the key words c32amg-dtm mentioned is "drag radial"
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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if the 63 is THAT fast, thats just wrong.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Guys 11K +++ its a bit too much $. For about half that you can build a turbo and have your ECU tuned. Or go with spray all day.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wawy
"We'll be honest. When Kleemann USA's director, Brandon Grantham, delivered his company's pewter-colored 55S8, we figured it might knock a few 10ths off the stocker's already impressive times, possibly putting it in the speedy company of, say, an Aston Martin DB9 or Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. Then we saw the claimed power numbers of 570 horses and 580 pound-feet of torque. Oops.

Starting with the C55's hand-built, naturally aspirated 5.4-liter V-8, Kleemann bolted on an Autorotor Lysholm supercharger with a water-to-air intercooler good for 7.3 psi of boost ($11,000) and its "Super Sound" exhaust system ($7900), which includes larger stainless-steel tubular headers with bigger down pipes, freer-flowing catalysts, and straight-through mufflers and resonators. Sticking with the stock AMG Speedshift five-speed automatic, Kleemann then added a recalibrated engine computer ($1000) to ensure the proper air-to-fuel ratio. The 55S8 was suddenly a supercar-eating beast. No, seriously.

At the test track, the 55S8 thundered to 60 in just 3.8 seconds and through the quarter-mile in only 12.2 at 117. To put the 55S8 in the same league as the DB9 and 612 would be an insult—to which one we're not really sure. The 55S8's numbers devour the Ferrari Challenge Stradale's (4.0, 12.4) and Porsche 911 GT3's (4.0, 12.3). They eat up the Dodge Viper's to 60 (3.9) and the Lamborghini Murciélago's in the quarter (12.6).

Then there's the Kleemann's 5-to-60 street-start time of 3.9, which is lower than all of those cars', not to mention the Saleen S7's (5.1). Heck, it's just 0.2 second behind the 605-hp Porsche Carrera GT's.

Now, in case you're thinking the Kleemann was juiced with nitrous and ran with the grace of a rodeo bull, let us assure you its tank was full of good ol' premium unleaded"

ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (mfr's claim): 570 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (mfr's claim): 580 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 181.5 in Width: 68.0 in Height: 55.6 in
Curb weight: 3830 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.9 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.2 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.2 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 187 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._file/(page)/1

So 20 grand later and it only runs 12.2s at 1teens?
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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I personally just buy the 63 .
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Last time I checked they had a special on and were selling their Kompressor systems for $7995+shipping or something like that and $10,000 installed including Kleemann headers and downpipes....
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