MHP ECU/TCU tuning for C32 AMG
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There's no conspiracy here.
MHP tuned your ECU, no doubt. I am 100% sure of that. They just "happened" to use our calibrations on the way. Most would simply call that IP theft.
There's a simple way to find out....Why doesn't MHP post up the checksum and HW/SW numbers for your STOCK file?
MHP tuned your ECU, no doubt. I am 100% sure of that. They just "happened" to use our calibrations on the way. Most would simply call that IP theft.
There's a simple way to find out....Why doesn't MHP post up the checksum and HW/SW numbers for your STOCK file?
Thanks Wayne.
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MHP was the first to attack LET in this thread. It is not fair to then ask them to stay out of it. Further, it is not a thread started by MHP. Both are sponsors, and LET was and is simply replying to the attacks started by MHP.
You know all this as myself and Adrian have addressed this numerous times in PM and on the phone.
You know all this as myself and Adrian have addressed this numerous times in PM and on the phone.
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Are you referring to posts that stated that Dave went to Chrysler as well as the post that Dave has a contract with MHP? I'm confused how a contract employee can be considered an in-house employee. Please clarify. Thanx
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MHP was the first to attack LET in this thread. It is not fair to then ask them to stay out of it. Further, it is not a thread started by MHP. Both are sponsors, and LET was and is simply replying to the attacks started by MHP.
You know all this as myself and Adrian have addressed this numerous times in PM and on the phone.
You know all this as myself and Adrian have addressed this numerous times in PM and on the phone.
MHP has not responded to further taunts and lies posted by ChicagoX, are you going to allow him to continue to further pollute this thread?
otoupalik,
You have never spoken to me on the phone, nor have we had contact beyond this forum. Sorry, wrong again.
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Make sense now?
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MHP has not responded to further taunts and lies posted by ChicagoX, are you going to allow him to continue to further pollute this thread?
otoupalik,
You have never spoken to me on the phone, nor have we had contact beyond this forum. Sorry, wrong again.
You have never spoken to me on the phone, nor have we had contact beyond this forum. Sorry, wrong again.
Just an FYI, you are not making yourself look great by jumping off with less then all the facts. You would better serve your business by acting a bit less aggressive.
Thanks
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Yes, you do seem confused. Allow me to clarify. Dave was formerly an employee of ChryCo and wrote OEM calibrations for Chrysler and their subsidiaries. Dave now freelances for some OEM manufacturers and is under contract for aftermarket tuning by MHP.
Make sense now?
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Make sense now?
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Both an in-house or subcontracted employee can be fired at will, leave to go work elsewhere, quit, etc, etc. He could work in an out-house for all I care.
Not that I have ever used either one of these companies' products, though.
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Not sure what that tangental line of questioning is about (coming from a moderator, no less
)FWIW, an excerpt from Mr. Kasper's online bio is as follows:
With over 25 years of experience in tuning, dyno calibration, and both drag and road racing he is unquestionably a master at his craft, bringing a vast array of both general and application specific knowledge to our staff. Dave has tuned literally every application possible from positive displacement blowers, centrifugal superchargers, single and twin turbo's, to naturally aspirated and nitrous combinations, as well as duel power adder apps. Dave's expertise is not limited by the geographic origin of vehicles, as such he is able to tune most makes of high end European performance and luxury/performance vehicles including those from Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, Bentley, Porsche, VW, Audi, BMW, Mini, and Mercedes as well as domestic variants from Ford, Chrysler, and GM. Dave specializes in complete driveline tuning, meaning both transmission(TCU/TCM) and engine(PCM/ECU) code modifications. He is a recognized and certified SCT, HPtuner, and DiabloSport tuner, though it's his ability to read and modify OEM code and if necessary create his own application specific hardware that truly separates him from other great tuners of the world. Dave brings a lifetime of experience backed with credentials and results to our driveline tuning program, and we at B&G gladly stand behind him and his work. Here are a few more of his acomplishemts. 14 years with DaimlerChrysler Corporation with a position as a Service Engineer/Software Development Engineer, 500 hours + of DaimlerChrysler Vehicle training, Certified in C/C++, Certified in Motorola programing language, and there's more.
-source: MHP/BG Tuning sites.
Not sure if that addresses amdeutsch's question, but I am not sure what relevance it has anyway. Can we please get things back on topic?
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You are welcome to respond and it would be in your and the forum's best interest to do so. However, again, MHP opened the door to this, and you cannot now ask to close it.
I cannot confirm or deny that we have spoken on the phone. However, MHP (ie: Andy) has been told on the phone specifically by Adrian the same as I posted above. Further, both you and user MHP (ie: Andy) have been emailed by me on this, stating the same. I am not "wrong again" as I have records to support all communications - just because they are not to YOU does not mean they are not to MHP - you do work there, right?
Yes I work for MHP, Andy and I are seperate individuals, sorry but I don't think you can lump us all together like that. ie he's on suspension, I'm not.
Just an FYI, you are not making yourself look great by jumping off with less then all the facts. You would better serve your business by acting a bit less aggressive.
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Funny how the when MHP is put on suspension this "YNOT600" person starts chiming in on this thread.
But he's just a fabricator.
As otoupalik stated before, it would behoove you and the company you work for to keep your mouth shut cause you're not helping matters by chiming in the way you are about the admin/mod.
If it were me, I'd suspend anyone associated with MHP after the last couple of threads you wrote
But he's just a fabricator.
As otoupalik stated before, it would behoove you and the company you work for to keep your mouth shut cause you're not helping matters by chiming in the way you are about the admin/mod.
If it were me, I'd suspend anyone associated with MHP after the last couple of threads you wrote
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Funny how the when MHP is put on suspension this "YNOT600" person starts chiming in on this thread.
But he's just a fabricator.
As otoupalik stated before, it would behoove you and the company you work for to keep your mouth shut cause you're not helping matters by chiming in the way you are about the admin/mod.
If it were me, I'd suspend anyone associated with MHP after the last couple of threads you wrote
But he's just a fabricator.
As otoupalik stated before, it would behoove you and the company you work for to keep your mouth shut cause you're not helping matters by chiming in the way you are about the admin/mod.
If it were me, I'd suspend anyone associated with MHP after the last couple of threads you wrote
FWIW, the LET off-topic aspect of this thread had died down, until Wayne threw a substantial "MHP obviously used LET's calibration" allegation which stirred things up again. Jerry posted a pleasant comment (IMHO, attempting to help settle things down for me and get it back on track) for which I am appreciative. And yet... apparently we keep having these disappointing sidebar postings. I recognize that you're a happy LET tuning customer; that said, I've repeatedly requested that the thread stay on topic, and it's a major bummer if a revolving door of LET customers keeps derailing that request.
Final point - the last couple threads YNOT600 has written have been showing the gorgeous LT headers and exhaust they've developed for the C63 (which, at under $4k for 63 LT's, is a substantial discount to what else is available in the marketplace) - why the heck should they be suspended for that?!?
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I do not see the relevance of your post - nor does it have any meaningful substance or positive contribution to this thread. That you've been a MBW member for over 2 years and have 11 posts, yet decided to post this here, strikes me as odd. FWIW, this is my thread to share my results with the MHP ECU/TCU tuning for the C32 - this is not MHP's thread as you seem to suggest.
FWIW, the LET off-topic aspect of this thread had died down, until Wayne threw a substantial "MHP obviously used LET's calibration" allegation which stirred things up again. Jerry posted a pleasant comment (IMHO, attempting to help settle things down for me and get it back on track) for which I am appreciative. And yet... apparently we keep having these disappointing sidebar postings. I recognize that you're a happy LET tuning customer; that said, I've repeatedly requested that the thread stay on topic, and it's a major bummer if a revolving door of LET customers keeps derailing that request.
Final point - the last couple threads YNOT600 has written have been showing the gorgeous LT headers and exhaust they've developed for the C63 (which, at under $4k for 63 LT's, is a substantial discount to what else is available in the marketplace) - why the heck should they be suspended for that?!?
FWIW, the LET off-topic aspect of this thread had died down, until Wayne threw a substantial "MHP obviously used LET's calibration" allegation which stirred things up again. Jerry posted a pleasant comment (IMHO, attempting to help settle things down for me and get it back on track) for which I am appreciative. And yet... apparently we keep having these disappointing sidebar postings. I recognize that you're a happy LET tuning customer; that said, I've repeatedly requested that the thread stay on topic, and it's a major bummer if a revolving door of LET customers keeps derailing that request.
Final point - the last couple threads YNOT600 has written have been showing the gorgeous LT headers and exhaust they've developed for the C63 (which, at under $4k for 63 LT's, is a substantial discount to what else is available in the marketplace) - why the heck should they be suspended for that?!?
now....less talk...more Version 2 numbers!!!
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TCU tuning does make a noticeable difference in shift firmness and feel. I also observed the ability to trigger the flashing fun triangle at 40ish MPH - an ability that I don't recall being able to do before when at stock boost levels; while not an expert, I presume this may be the elimination/reduction of torque-limiting software in the TCU at work (?).
I also have dyno results for the MHP ECU v2 tune (hot off the presses, just occurred yesterday). Good news was that the WOT air/fuel looks much better than previous. Bad news is that the tune unfortunately lost quite a bit of power (peak power down 22rwhp) - and from a drivability standpoint, the tune causes a slightly rough/choppy behavior in part throttle, low-rpm situations (1500-2k)... unfortunately, if one watches the tach while driving, he/she probably spends a fair bit of time in this rpm range while in D.
I've discussed these matters with Andy of MHP via cell and email - I've requested to take advantage of MHP's money-back-guarantee offer, which Andy accepted contingent on receipt of the v2 dyno results (sent to him yesterday). I plan to be flashed back to stock ECU/TCU by my local MB dealership and run stock for the time being. MHP has undoubtedly created a solid performance regimen for the C63 and other 6.2L AMG variants - they've been less successful with their M112 and M113 results, which has been well chronicled here on MBW.
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