MHP ECU/TCU tuning for C32 AMG
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Hey folks - an FYI post, I've been running an MHP ECU/TCU tune for about a month now. Was especially intrigued to experience the TCU tuning, as to my knowledge no one else is offering this for us.
So far, I've been extremely impressed with the tuning - and the TCU specifically makes a big difference in the "sportiness" of how the car shifts. Butt-dyno says the tuning package feels fast, but I have a dyno appt. in about a week... stay tuned for the results![drive](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif)
Andy (from MHP) really knows his stuff, and I've been nothing but impressed when dealing with him. His dedication to proven modding and tuning strategies for these and other platforms is unparalleled IMHO.
P.S. My C32 is back on stock pullies (for now
), so the runs will essentially be comparing stock results vs. MHP tuned results. Additional modded levels (and those dyno results) will follow... ![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
I'll keep everyone posted... thanks for reading
So far, I've been extremely impressed with the tuning - and the TCU specifically makes a big difference in the "sportiness" of how the car shifts. Butt-dyno says the tuning package feels fast, but I have a dyno appt. in about a week... stay tuned for the results
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Andy (from MHP) really knows his stuff, and I've been nothing but impressed when dealing with him. His dedication to proven modding and tuning strategies for these and other platforms is unparalleled IMHO.
P.S. My C32 is back on stock pullies (for now
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I'll keep everyone posted... thanks for reading
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I personally think its going to be hard to get a C32 guys off the LET tune. They have had this market nailed down for a long time. Let alone the price LET offers.
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Since you mention it, I previously ran an LET ECU tune; I dyno'd last September with an LET tune, 181mm pulley kit, shorty headers, cooling mods, etc... 334rwhp/338rwtq on a Dynojet. To be honest, I wasn't doing backflips over the results... I drove the car with the hardware for awhile, and there was a slight improvement after getting back the LET-tuned ECU... but it wasn't night and day (like many others seem to experience). Thread is here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...o-results.html
You may recall - LET first used Evotech for their tuning, prior to bringing it "in-house." IIRC, LET has been doing ECU tuning for *about* 1 year, maybe less. While I don't dispute there's a loyal following of LET customers... that constitutes a long time?
My dyno runs next week will be on stock pulleys (i.e. stock boost) so I don't expect miracles; but am interested to see how it stacks up vs. my previous stock baseline of 297rwhp/289rwtq. I wanted to try something different, plus the benefit of having the TCU tuned to compliment the ECU revisions - which (again) to my knowledge only MHP is offering
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EDIT: those previous dyno results were ALL reported as uncorrected numbers, as that was what LET requested I obtain/report at that time. Since I always go to the same dyno, I should be able to get all of my numbers (past and present) corrected to SAE. Will be interesting to see how that alters any of the figures. Stay "tuned"
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Yeah, very interesting!
I didn't feel much of an improvement when I got Jerry tune, but it reduced my times .45 in the 1/4 so there is definatly some magic in it. Good luck!
I didn't feel much of an improvement when I got Jerry tune, but it reduced my times .45 in the 1/4 so there is definatly some magic in it. Good luck!
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The tuning isn't comparable, they only do half the driveline, and their target demo isn't the same as ours. Our tuning isn't for everyone (think Holiday Inn Express v Four Seasons) but it gives those looking for the best in complete driveline tuning another option.
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Just out of curiosity MHP, how much would the ecu/tcu package cost, and how much only for the tcu?
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I would appreciate it if you don't comment on our tuning, since you have absolute no knowledge of our methods or means.
We do all of our tuning in-house as opposed to being a reseller of others' work. (WHEN IT "TAKES")
Interesting that you would compare yourself to Holiday Inn...........
We do all of our tuning in-house as opposed to being a reseller of others' work. (WHEN IT "TAKES")
Interesting that you would compare yourself to Holiday Inn...........
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I would appreciate it if you don't comment on our tuning, since you have absolute no knowledge of our methods or means.
We do all of our tuning in-house as opposed to being a reseller of others' work. (WHEN IT "TAKES")
Interesting that you would compare yourself to Holiday Inn...........
We do all of our tuning in-house as opposed to being a reseller of others' work. (WHEN IT "TAKES")
Interesting that you would compare yourself to Holiday Inn...........
Yep, LOL, that's us, Holiday Inn.
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How many records do you hold?
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...and whatever happened to your "remote custom tuning"?
Love the "reseller" comment. I own the company, Dave is my lead tuner. You think the owners of Renntech, Kleeman, Evosport, Brabus, etc etc etc do their own tuning? I fabricate parts and build engines, ever done any of that? Don't worry, that's rhetorical.
ps--stay out of this thread. I don't post in yours no matter how much I want to.
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GP Pricing:
$2500 for CDT (ECU and TCU) if we get 5 customers. If we get 10 the price drops to $2200 for CDT.
ECU alone $1100
TCU alone $1500
Thanks!
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Easy everybody - no need for people to get worked up... this is, after all, not the w211 AMG forum ![Stick Out Tongue](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
I used to run LET's ECU tune - I decided to try something different, so I'm now running MHP's ECU & TCU tuning. I've dyno'd stock, w/ LET mods, and soon with the MHP tuning, and look forward to sharing the results.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
c32used - IIRC, hooleyboy posted up a "rumor" that he heard MHP's tuning/software expert disappeared while in possession of some ECUs and/or TCUs. Where he heard it, who knows, but it was posted in a MHP thread on the C63 forum, while Andy was serving a 2-week suspension for participation in the heated on-going debate that is the jangy vs. jrcart saga. Once Andy came back, he cleared up that those comments were completely false; perhaps you missed that post.
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Anyway, I had no intention of discussing LET in this thread until hooleyboy brought it up, since it's
- suffice it to say that I'm happy w/ the tuning company and tuner MHP, and excited for what 2009 may bring in the form of dyno & track results.
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I used to run LET's ECU tune - I decided to try something different, so I'm now running MHP's ECU & TCU tuning. I've dyno'd stock, w/ LET mods, and soon with the MHP tuning, and look forward to sharing the results.
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c32used - IIRC, hooleyboy posted up a "rumor" that he heard MHP's tuning/software expert disappeared while in possession of some ECUs and/or TCUs. Where he heard it, who knows, but it was posted in a MHP thread on the C63 forum, while Andy was serving a 2-week suspension for participation in the heated on-going debate that is the jangy vs. jrcart saga. Once Andy came back, he cleared up that those comments were completely false; perhaps you missed that post.
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Anyway, I had no intention of discussing LET in this thread until hooleyboy brought it up, since it's
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As for 1/4 ET and MPH... we'll have to wait for the weather to warm up a bit, and I'll share those results as well.
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MHP, what are your advertised HP/torque gains for a ECU tune for a N/A C55?
Also, what exactly does your TCU tuning do?......alter shift points (different rpm's)?....or does it really increase the shift speeds (ie lower shift times)? The "M" (manual) mode of the C55 tranny really could use some faster shift speeds.
Also, what exactly does your TCU tuning do?......alter shift points (different rpm's)?....or does it really increase the shift speeds (ie lower shift times)? The "M" (manual) mode of the C55 tranny really could use some faster shift speeds.