c32AMG-DTM

Hey folks - an FYI post, I've been running an MHP ECU/TCU tune for about a month now. Was especially intrigued to experience the TCU tuning, as to my knowledge no one else is offering this for us.

So far, I've been extremely impressed with the tuning - and the TCU specifically makes a big difference in the "sportiness" of how the car shifts. Butt-dyno says the tuning package feels fast, but I have a dyno appt. in about a week... stay tuned for the results

Andy (from MHP) really knows his stuff, and I've been nothing but impressed when dealing with him. His dedication to proven modding and tuning strategies for these and other platforms is unparalleled IMHO.

P.S. My C32 is back on stock pullies (for now ), so the runs will essentially be comparing stock results vs. MHP tuned results. Additional modded levels (and those dyno results) will follow...

I'll keep everyone posted... thanks for reading

splinter

Very interesting. I’m thinking those numbers in your sig will soon be revised.

OJwerks

TCU tuning sounds cool

1qikctr

I would like to get a TCU tune.

hooleyboy

I personally think its going to be hard to get a C32 guys off the LET tune. They have had this market nailed down for a long time. Let alone the price LET offers.

c32AMG-DTM

hooleyboy - thanks for the honest input. That said, I would appreciate keeping this thread on-topic, if that's alright - the threadjacks around MBW are getting pretty ridiculous these days Besides, the point isn't a "my dad can beat-up your dad" argument on the playground

Since you mention it, I previously ran an LET ECU tune; I dyno'd last September with an LET tune, 181mm pulley kit, shorty headers, cooling mods, etc... 334rwhp/338rwtq on a Dynojet. To be honest, I wasn't doing backflips over the results... I drove the car with the hardware for awhile, and there was a slight improvement after getting back the LET-tuned ECU... but it wasn't night and day (like many others seem to experience). Thread is here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...o-results.html

You may recall - LET first used Evotech for their tuning, prior to bringing it "in-house." IIRC, LET has been doing ECU tuning for *about* 1 year, maybe less. While I don't dispute there's a loyal following of LET customers... that constitutes a long time?

My dyno runs next week will be on stock pulleys (i.e. stock boost) so I don't expect miracles; but am interested to see how it stacks up vs. my previous stock baseline of 297rwhp/289rwtq. I wanted to try something different, plus the benefit of having the TCU tuned to compliment the ECU revisions - which (again) to my knowledge only MHP is offering Nevertheless, I've been very happy so far, and look forward to the springtime when I can drive it more.

EDIT: those previous dyno results were ALL reported as uncorrected numbers, as that was what LET requested I obtain/report at that time. Since I always go to the same dyno, I should be able to get all of my numbers (past and present) corrected to SAE. Will be interesting to see how that alters any of the figures. Stay "tuned"

turbo16lbs

Keep us posted!

c32AMG-DTM

Will do

kindafast

Yeah, very interesting!
I didn't feel much of an improvement when I got Jerry tune, but it reduced my times .45 in the 1/4 so there is definatly some magic in it. Good luck!

c32used

Hey buddy please by all means keep us posted

MHP

Thanks for posting your feelings on the tuning Brett. Can't wait for your dyno results.

alkrstev

Wow. .45 reduction in the quarter? What do you run now kindafast?

MHP

The tuning isn't comparable, they only do half the driveline, and their target demo isn't the same as ours. Our tuning isn't for everyone (think Holiday Inn Express v Four Seasons) but it gives those looking for the best in complete driveline tuning another option.

alkrstev

Just out of curiosity MHP, how much would the ecu/tcu package cost, and how much only for the tcu?

ChicagoX

I would appreciate it if you don't comment on our tuning, since you have absolute no knowledge of our methods or means.

We do all of our tuning in-house as opposed to being a reseller of others' work. (WHEN IT "TAKES")

Interesting that you would compare yourself to Holiday Inn...........

MHP

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MHP

Yep, LOL, that's us, Holiday Inn.
How many records do you hold? What's the matter does the fact that you can only do older cars, can't do TCU, and are toast after 2010 not sit well with you?

...and whatever happened to your "remote custom tuning"?

Love the "reseller" comment. I own the company, Dave is my lead tuner. You think the owners of Renntech, Kleeman, Evosport, Brabus, etc etc etc do their own tuning? I fabricate parts and build engines, ever done any of that? Don't worry, that's rhetorical.

ps--stay out of this thread. I don't post in yours no matter how much I want to.

kindafast

pm sent!

MHP

We'll do an initial GP when Brett posts his dyno results. List price will be $3000 for 32 AMGs. $1250 for ECU, and $1750 for TCU.

GP Pricing:

$2500 for CDT (ECU and TCU) if we get 5 customers. If we get 10 the price drops to $2200 for CDT.

ECU alone $1100

TCU alone $1500

Thanks!

c32AMG-DTM

Easy everybody - no need for people to get worked up... this is, after all, not the w211 AMG forum

I used to run LET's ECU tune - I decided to try something different, so I'm now running MHP's ECU & TCU tuning. I've dyno'd stock, w/ LET mods, and soon with the MHP tuning, and look forward to sharing the results.

c32used - IIRC, hooleyboy posted up a "rumor" that he heard MHP's tuning/software expert disappeared while in possession of some ECUs and/or TCUs. Where he heard it, who knows, but it was posted in a MHP thread on the C63 forum, while Andy was serving a 2-week suspension for participation in the heated on-going debate that is the jangy vs. jrcart saga. Once Andy came back, he cleared up that those comments were completely false; perhaps you missed that post. If you've "heard" of other examples, you know more than I do... feel free to PM if you want, but let's keep it out of this thread

Anyway, I had no intention of discussing LET in this thread until hooleyboy brought it up, since it's - suffice it to say that I'm happy w/ the tuning company and tuner MHP, and excited for what 2009 may bring in the form of dyno & track results.

kindafast

What's the estimated gain in hp and 1/4 with that?

c32AMG-DTM

Hey kindafast - no real need to "estimate" the HP gain, as I'll be dyno'ing next week

As for 1/4 ET and MPH... we'll have to wait for the weather to warm up a bit, and I'll share those results as well.

MHP

What he said. The TCU won't show up as much on the dyno as it will at the track, or even when daily driving. It really changes the overall feel of the powertrain at both part and WOT.

Any chance you can make MIR?

kindafast

Okay chief

I thought MHP tested already.

PC Valkyrie

MHP, what are your advertised HP/torque gains for a ECU tune for a N/A C55?

Also, what exactly does your TCU tuning do?......alter shift points (different rpm's)?....or does it really increase the shift speeds (ie lower shift times)? The "M" (manual) mode of the C55 tranny really could use some faster shift speeds.