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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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Wow, there's some pretty cool stuff going on over in the Crossfire Forum.(no pun intended)
Including some manifolds in testing to gain 40% more airflow?

Hope some of this stuff will fit on our cars too....

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=32137

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Attached Thumbnails Needswings SuperCooler-needswings-he.jpg   Needswings SuperCooler-needswings-he2.jpg   Needswings SuperCooler-needswings-he3.jpg  
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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If these were for the c32.... i would be pretty upset since i just went out a bought a new radiator.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Is it a giant heat exchanger? Looks like it goes in front of the radiator?
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Wow... those pictures look really familiar....lol. If anyone has questions about the Needswings Heat Exchanger, let me know.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Wow... those pictures look really familiar....lol. If anyone has questions about the Needswings Heat Exchanger, let me know.
Will these fit the 32?
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletAMG
Will these fit the 32?
Im going to say no.... it barely fits the SRT-6. Its really snug between the hood latch and a/c condenser. Ill see if Jake or Andy will let me take some measurements on one of their cars sometime.
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Post up in the E55 section so Jangy can check it out. Rob will have an E55 in there soon to verify it fits in there as well.
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Is this the same, or different, from the one Woody made from a Summit Racing radiator? IIRC, he was collaborating on some NW projects...
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Is this the same, or different, from the one Woody made from a Summit Racing radiator? IIRC, he was collaborating on some NW projects...
Its a Woody design.... Rob and Woody have been working in conjunction on this and a few other things soon to follow. This is basically a reworked radiator with relocated inlet and outlet. The only thing I do not like about it is that it covers the whole A/C condenser and Radiator. I may look at adding a slim pusher fan to the outside to aid in cooling of the radiator.
~edit~ Or better yet, wire in a relay to the I/C pump and run a slim fan off of that on the front side of the cooler.
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is this supercooler suppose to replace the radiator or the i/c heat exchanger?
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Originally Posted by amgstyle
is this supercooler suppose to replace the radiator or the i/c heat exchanger?
I wondered the same thing at first glance. It replaces the heat exchanger though and sits in front of the radiator.
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletAMG
I wondered the same thing at first glance. It replaces the heat exchanger though and sits in front of the radiator.
Originally Posted by amgstyle
is this supercooler suppose to replace the radiator or the i/c heat exchanger?
It replaces the heat exchanger.

Note that every intercooler heat exchanger and front mounted air to air intercooler are always mounted before the radiator. Radiators are thermostatically controlled so the water sits in the radiator for a while. Heat exchangers aren't so they need to coolest air possible to work effectively.
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too bad i already installed my behr radiator already.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
too bad i already installed my behr radiator already.
This doesn't replace the radiator... it replaces the HE (i.e instead of a Code 3 or LET type HE). This one allegedly holds more, flows more, and cools better - that said, it's probably a non-issue for C32's anyway - I doubt it would fit. Good option for the SLK-32 and SRT-6 folks, however.
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
This doesn't replace the radiator... it replaces the HE (i.e instead of a Code 3 or LET type HE). This one allegedly holds more, flows more, and cools better - that said, it's probably a non-issue for C32's anyway - I doubt it would fit. Good option for the SLK-32 and SRT-6 folks, however.
ic..thought it was a radiator from the pics..oh well i already upgraded my heat exchange and radiator already anyways.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
ic..thought it was a radiator from the pics..oh well i already upgraded my heat exchange and radiator already anyways.
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seems like wayyy overkill.
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seems like wayyy overkill.
You say that like it's a bad thing.lol
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Originally Posted by loungn14
seems like wayyy overkill.
+1

I had the code3 He and even after a 30 minute road couse session I had NO heat soak issues. And that was with a pulley guys. Oh well, maybe they are running 30 pounds of boost

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You say that like it's a bad thing.lol
heat exchanger and seperate the cooling system and no need for big *** radiator...

just my 2 cents...
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heat exchanger and seperate the cooling system and no need for big *** radiator...

just my 2 cents...
Don't forget about that much MORE weight, in the LAST place that you want/need it.

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Woody's (waldig) prose is, well, a little... different - that said, he definitely knows his stuff, and tests mods scientifically to the "nth" degree. If anyone cares to read more about these, follow the links:

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=28137

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=28904

As I mentioned earlier - probably a non-issue for C32's anyway... I doubt it would fit our chassis configuration.
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Originally Posted by loungn14
heat exchanger and seperate the cooling system and no need for big *** radiator...

just my 2 cents...
I have both
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Originally Posted by loungn14
heat exchanger and seperate the cooling system and no need for big *** radiator...

just my 2 cents...
What do you mean by seperate the cooling system?
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