Koru_Kinshi

But this argument was started by the 335. Didn't know he wanted a challenge until he took off.

Found out very quickly that the car was seriously modded. I couldn't catch up, but he wasn't tearing away, thankfully.

On the second run, we tried again. This time, we took off at the same time. I pulled ahead in the beginning, but then he caught up and pulled ahead again, but again, rather slowly.

On the flip side, he had only himself in the car, while I had an extra person, who, though he's a good buddy of mine, added 250 lbs to the car. I think if he wasn't there, it would have been a much closer fight.

Either way, I'm very proud of how Lenneth handled herself.

jturkel

given your mods, im going to guess he had either a JB stage III piggyback, maybe catted dps.

those things are not a joke when fully modded: catless dps, fmix, piggyback, intake, those things can trap 115-116 on 93 and 117-119 on 100

TemjinX2

yeah its always easier to get power out of turbo. but stock vs stock the c32 is faster. They can keep up with you up until about 80-85, they you'll walk them all the way up to 120mph. They start to run out of steam top end.

kevkranker

Yeah one of my best friends has a 335i w/ JB and intake.They are a beast. We just installed his Dinan suspension two weeks ago. I'm waiting for him to get his new flash and we are going to have a run. Should be close.

c32used

I'm not a huge fan of street racing but it could occur here and there. Be careful with a modded one...AMG Jerrys' 135i with simplier mods pulled a 12.7 with him driving. Now he's more modded so I wouldn't be surprised by 11s. Be careful the ones that taunt you will most likely be modded rather lightly or heavy. If heavy you will know cause he'll put distance on you much faster.

CLKCLK

We need "stacked supercharger" project now

It seems like we (C32s) are hitting the wall now, 22psi limit, fuel limit, etc. We need to break these limits or we are seeing their tail lights.

c32used

There is always a faster car...but most cars need to be modded to take on a C32/C55 lets be happy we held the mentle for this long

SoCalC55

The day I Dynoed my car there was a 335i there as well, he put down a (pathetic)260something with just an intake. However he then installed the chip(JB3 PNP) he had and layed down 324hp

335s and the E46 M3 are my fav cars to race. If they are stock its a rape; if not... well then things get fun

Koru_Kinshi

Hey, it would've been a better match up without the extra weight. :P And I do have more room to tune, but as of right now, I'm content until Vadim comes up with a new intake.

TemjinX2

was this on a dynojet or mustang dyno? thats seems really low. i heard the 335i comes underrated from the factory and is actually higher then the e46 m3.

The link shows 284whp which is basically 355 to the crank which is close to the c32, since c32's dyno around 275whp to 300whp.

here's a stock dyno of a 335i manual

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=218879

60n5pt1

A C3 air intake could have also made a difference or given you that extra edge. Next time make sure you have small skinny passengers with you.

I've had a couple of runs with 335s and have yet to be beat. And they're obviously still stock.
Does VRP actually tune your ECU or PowerChip (they share the same address, right?)
good story though.

TemjinX2

the tune is done by powerchip but vadim at vrp worked with them on the tune when he had his c32.

JG26_Irish

I guess this goes in the got killed forum. Turbo cars are very tuneable and don't have the parasitic losses of the SC'er. Given time, the 335's will be laying down 400hp to the wheels as long as the engines are strong enough to handled the pressure and heat. I too would rather bust a beemer than any other car on the planet, lol. With these 335's it is a crap shoot.

Still good story. Next time kick the buddy to the curb and tell him you will be back, lol. Think about it. Our cars are in the range of 10 lbs/hp. Dropping 250 lbs of extra wt is like gaining 25 hp at the wheels as far as the accelleration rate is concerned. If you were close to the beemer already, than that would have made a significant difference. I dragged a Z28 at the strip one night and walked away by 3 car lengths and pulling away on the big end. But on the timeslip, he had a 1/10 sec better ET but I had a 3/10 better reaction time. The 2/10ths sec difference made it look like I was walking away from the faster car. 250 lbs would have made a huge difference in that race. In another race, I let my 140 lb son ride along once and it increased my ET by 4/10ths sec. At 105 mph on the topend, 4 tenths of a second is equal to over 60 ft. Howmany car lengths is that?

Irish

SoCalC55

It was on a Dynojet (same day i put down 312/328 stock)

I was a bit confused myself, ill see if he can upload the graphs of the pre and post chip runs

TopGun32

BMW has a less drive train loss..

more like 15% for autos

we loose 17 to 18% depending who's opinion you ask.

While 285 stock are common.. most dyno around 270+ and some a bit lower.

But for the most part, I say stock vs stock 335 and c32 they dyno about 275 to 280.

the earlier models showed they made a bit more boost.. 1/2 lbs more. This was documented by Edmunds.

But I agree.. 300hp is only a marketing number. More like 335hp in the old SAE hp rating and more like 325 in the new SAE Hp rating.

FrankW

335's are making new M3 owners angry as well with it's chipped. lol

Koru_Kinshi

There's always another time. And I wouldn't call it getting killed. Only counts when the general conditions, like passengers are equal.

FrankW

honestly i wouldn't worry about it. my C32's marching into the 7th year. can care less if a 2 year old car with better engineering can beat me. lol