A pictures worth 1000 words

Jun 23, 2009 | 01:26 AM

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A pictures worth 1000 words

Seen this in my Travels today. Not at Dyno-Comp. I really dont know what to think.

This is a STI with a c32 kompressor.

Jun 23, 2009 | 01:30 AM

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02 C32 AMG

wtf? messed up! what is that in the rear lefthand corner (in the picture) of the engine bay?

Jun 23, 2009 | 01:34 AM

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a big turbo

Jun 23, 2009 | 01:38 AM

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a big turbo

thats what i thought. seems like a rather unorthodox place for a turbo, no?

Jun 23, 2009 | 03:41 AM

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That's nuts. 2 intake manifolds too?

Jun 23, 2009 | 03:44 AM

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wow..thats' different

Jun 23, 2009 | 06:36 AM

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thats what i thought. seems like a rather unorthodox place for a turbo, no?

Thats where Subaru's have their turbo. They get their rumble from the uneven length of the headers. Of course the axis of the turbo on a normal subie runs long ways so that one is rotated 90 degrees. Guess they are trying to take it back to the old days of group B rally where some cars were both supercharged and turbocharged. When you got a snail as big as your head you need something to provide boost at low-mid range RPMs.

Found this one over on the subaru forums. Dynoed at 443 whp. Info on the build http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1688562

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Jun 23, 2009 | 07:18 AM

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GL 350 Bluetec

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pretty sick, but that's like hanging 90lbs to one side of the car and not the other. a big no thanks to the handling. lol

True but dont most of us sit on one side of the car, not in the middle? So you are splitting hairs lol.

Jun 23, 2009 | 09:34 AM

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It just does not make sense to me to have the car supercharged. You can have a big powered Subie without a supercharger. I'm with Frank on this one, no thanks.

Jun 23, 2009 | 10:28 AM

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I was just commenting that its unique. If my legacy wasnt under warranty I could be making 400+ hp with bolt ons. No way I would put a SC on my subie either.

Jun 23, 2009 | 10:51 AM

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Mini was working on a dual FI set up-SC and Trubo-there are (unfortunatly) a couple here in MN-they do make decent powa-and they are unique. Real powa freaks go with a small snail (K03 or T3 set up) and a fat 72mm+
good find!

Jun 23, 2009 | 11:41 AM

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Seems so much easier to just run an aggressive ball bearing turbo, that would take care of most of the lag issue, seems like way too much weight on the front of the car, that thing must understeer quite a bit.

+1 for uniqueness though

Jun 23, 2009 | 02:06 PM

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fail boat....classic....

Jun 23, 2009 | 02:36 PM

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+1 for uniqueness though

I agree. A well sized turbo will spool soon enough and all the added complexity of the SC'er is not going to help except off the line in 1st gear. The porky Subey's don't handle all that well anyway. They tend to be a point and shoot car with lots of power and 4wd to help put it to the ground.

Irish

Jun 23, 2009 | 03:31 PM

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This setup is not that un-common. It's called compound boosting. The theory is that by adding the supercharger you in essence enlarge the engine. Tuned properly, a once 2.0-2.5L engine is now acting like a 3.0-4.0L which reduces turbo lag by a HUGE margin. It's very popular amongst the newest generation of "time attack" cars.

Albert Hernandez.

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Jun 23, 2009 | 03:37 PM

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02 C32 AMG

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Albert Hernandez.

driven a modded STI (the one in my avitar actually lol), but never really looked in the engine bay. thanks for the info!

Jun 23, 2009 | 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Panzerknacker

They get their rumble from the uneven length of the headers.

Found this one over on the subaru forums. Dynoed at 443 whp. Info on the build http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1688562

their "rumble" is a trait of a "boxer" style engines firing order

Jun 23, 2009 | 06:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mkonei

their "rumble" is a trait of a "boxer" style engines firing order

Actualy Panzerknacker is right. There are tons of companies who sell equal length headers. When installed, the trademark subaru sound is gone. Infact, the sound is just like any other 4cyl car on the road. Think honda/toyota/mitsubishi.

Albert Hernandez.