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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Not Sure I want to tangle with the Super Snake???

OT but have you guys seen the latest stang:


Ford Mustang GT: 4.6-liter V8, 315 hp, 325 lb-ft, five-speed manual, 3,550 pounds
Roush 427R: 4.6-liter supercharged V8, 435 hp, 400 lb-ft, five-speed manual, 3,688 pounds
Shelby GT500: 5.4-liter supercharged V8, 540 hp, 510 lb-ft, six-speed manual, 3,917 pounds
Super Snake: 5.4-liter supercharged V8, 750 hp, 710 lb-ft, six-speed manual, 3,944 pounds
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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I wonder if this is actually going to be a production version or a tuner made version? It may be made to compete with the ZR1, except that to compete with the ZR1 it needs to be made by Ford or SVT, not a tuner like Roush or Hennessey, etc etc
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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I wonder if this is actually going to be a production version or a tuner made version? It may be made to compete with the ZR1, except that to compete with the ZR1 it needs to be made by Ford or SVT, not a tuner like Roush or Hennessey, etc etc
It's a production model under the Shelby moniker. If one beats you just take a hammer to their hood...

http://jalopnik.com/5357470/replacem...by-gt500kr-20k

Just kidding, I would never recommend taking out anger against someone's ride. That's just chicken ****.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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saw the new 2010 GT500...sexy beast!

do they have the super snake yet for the facelift mustang?
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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for you fully modded guys (185, tune, headers), we should be able to pull on a stock GT500.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Not Sure I want to tangle with the Super Snake???
That's what SHE said!
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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for you fully modded guys (185, tune, headers), we should be able to pull on a stock GT500.
i somehow doubt it unless they can trap around 120mph?
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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That's what SHE said!
I don't think the girl in Turkel's sig would want to either. She's too busy giving nip slip
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i somehow doubt it unless they can trap around 120mph?
+1 , they are strong, BUT I hear they don't hook up too well?? I saw one run at Byron Raceway and he was having a helluva time getting over 115 because of a poor trachshun (or worse driving??)(sic) , but once they hook, they are very strong.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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i somehow doubt it unless they can trap around 120mph?
frank. stock Shelby GT500 trap between 108-112 (per dragtimes.com). I'm not talking about the Super Snake GT500. no way on that one.

the additional weight on the GT500s, *i have heard*, has made them almost dead even with the Terminator Cobras, which I pulled on a tiny bit with my old setup (code3 pulley, wrap kit, non-dyno tune, SL55).
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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saw one of these in testing at Speedworld back in December with Hooley during the Southwest meet at Speedworld.

Cobra Jet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5Q5...eature=related
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Originally Posted by jturkel
frank. stock Shelby GT500 trap between 108-112 (per dragtimes.com). I'm not talking about the Super Snake GT500. no way on that one.

the additional weight on the GT500s, *i have heard*, has made them almost dead even with the Terminator Cobras, which I pulled on a tiny bit with my old setup (code3 pulley, wrap kit, non-dyno tune, SL55).
yea, I was looking at dragtimes. there's stock ones trap 117. I'm just guess they're hard to launch, but from a stop a quicker C32 with 185 might have a shot. from a roll where weight doesn't play much effect they're no doubt faster.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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yea, I was looking at dragtimes. there's stock ones trap 117. I'm just guess they're hard to launch, but from a stop a quicker C32 with 185 might have a shot. from a roll where weight doesn't play much effect they're no doubt faster.
hmm i did see that one. looks like i'm gonna have to find a GT500 and invite him to the drag strip and get vids.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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I wanna see Hooley play with one.
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Originally Posted by jturkel
hmm i did see that one. looks like i'm gonna have to find a GT500 and invite him to the drag strip and get vids.
yea. the GT500 engine's also hand built, so there may be a difference?

GT500 I think they weight about the same as the C63. 3800-4000lb?

I think I read somewhere on C63 forum someone weight stationed his C63 with full tank of gas and himself around 4100lb.

our car is around 3800 with driver?

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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I wanna see Hooley play with one.
lol......it would need to be modded to keep up with Hooley.

I still wish that the guy with the Diablo ended up going through with his 1K bet with Hooley in a race. Ooh well. I would have paid to see that one
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jturkel
saw one of these in testing at Speedworld back in December with Hooley during the Southwest meet at Speedworld.

Cobra Jet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5Q5...eature=related
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Damn man, imagine if we could mod ours so much that we pulled wheelies like that on a launch.

Pull up next to a car and make the front end hop up. They'd be totally like
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Damn man, imagine if we could mod ours so much that we pulled wheelies like that on a launch.

Pull up next to a car and make the front end hop up. They'd be totally like
yah that would be sick. when i launch it from a dig, you can actually see my front end lurch upwards a decent amount from an "outside of the car perspective", and i can obviously see my headlights jump up a bit, but no air time lol. nothing too crazy. THAT car i posted vids of was absolutely sick in person. loud as hell
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The Super Snake’s arrest-me-now styling is not my cup of tea.

Can’t argue with its formidable horsepower from them having bolted a Kenne Bell lysholm onto the already stout GT500.
Easy 10s @ 130+ and a nicely upgraded, canyon-ready chassis. Shelby’s $32k upcharge is hardly chump change though. Helps ensure exclusivity, but there are several more roadworthy machines from which to choose when writing a check of that size IMHO.

A stock GT500 is actually pretty close performance-wise to a mildly tweaked C32. Ran essentially even with several from ~70 to 115, lap after lap. Some of their owners can’t drive around corners too well. “What have you done to yours” was asked by a few during friendly post-session paddock tale swapping.

Note that Ford’s in-house hardware division (FRPP) and a slew of aftermarket vendors offer go-fast goodies for a mere fraction of what MB enthusiasts have become accustomed to investing. As such, many Mustang pilots are justifiably mod happy. I’d venture a guess that there are many more of them – as a percentage of ownership and in absolute numbers – than one will find amongst the relatively minuscule faithful here.

It's probably prudent to tread lightly during most impromptu GT500 encounters.
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yah that would be sick. when i launch it from a dig, you can actually see my front end lurch upwards a decent amount from an "outside of the car perspective", and i can obviously see my headlights jump up a bit, but no air time lol. nothing too crazy. THAT car i posted vids of was absolutely sick in person. loud as hell
suspension's too soft

mine just makes a loud rubbing noise from the rear.
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The Super Snake’s arrest-me-now styling is not my cup of tea.

Can’t argue with its formidable horsepower from them having bolted a Kenne Bell lysholm onto the already stout GT500.
Easy 10s @ 130+ and a nicely upgraded, canyon-ready chassis. Shelby’s $32k upcharge is hardly chump change though. Helps ensure exclusivity, but there are several more roadworthy machines from which to choose when writing a check of that size IMHO.

A stock GT500 is actually pretty close performance-wise to a mildly tweaked C32. Ran essentially even with several from ~70 to 115, lap after lap. Some of their owners can’t drive around corners too well. “What have you done to yours” was asked by a few during friendly post-session paddock tale swapping.

Note that Ford’s in-house hardware division (FRPP) and a slew of aftermarket vendors offer go-fast goodies for a mere fraction of what MB enthusiasts have become accustomed to investing. As such, many Mustang pilots are justifiably mod happy. I’d venture a guess that there are many more of them – as a percentage of ownership and in absolute numbers – than one will find amongst the relatively minuscule faithful here.

It's probably prudent to tread lightly during most impromptu GT500 encounters.
always with informative info, john
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Ok so yes I only read about half way down!
The shop I use had a super snake there a few months back as a classic mustang lover I was like wow this thing is completely sick, when I first saw it. After getting a crazy ride along with the owner it blow my mind what a pos (for the price) now yes it can travel past time (if you can ever get it to hook, which you can with some very very wide drags out back). Nonetheless handling while in the passenger seat felt like a 747 trying to run some canyons.

It’s a sick straight like car and while yes, our mercs are no canyon carvers this thing is just out of control. So many better cars for the money.
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I would race one for the hell of it! At the very least you would give the Snake owner a suprise when he is not obliterating you like he would expect! I have surprised many a person and recieved a thumbs up more than a few times when my untrusty little c32 that sounds like a vacuum cleaner on crack pulls away!
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Why does the GT500 weigh so much more over a 'Stang GT???
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Why does the GT500 weigh so much more over a 'Stang GT???
Must be all that "aero crap" pasted on there I really do like that engine though. Sounds like a good race for the SL 65 BS??
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