Sellin' those headers I just bought...
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Sellin' those headers I just bought...
Funny thing. I just bought those headers from kindafast, and now I have to sell them due to a serious personal situation, heh. :p
Here's a link to the ad. Same price as I bought 'em for. $500 shipped.
VRP C32 Headers for sale
Here's a link to the ad. Same price as I bought 'em for. $500 shipped.
VRP C32 Headers for sale
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Not trying to ruffle any feathers, but VRP headers were dyno-tested on an SRT-6 and lost power, IIRC. Also have heard/read second-hand that they're not the greatest quality and after-sale support can be problematic. Caveat emptor (not directed at the OP, just the original product manufacturer).
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Well, according to what I've heard any what VRP has stated, HP gains range from 10-25hp depending on the mods you have.
Also, that is an SRT-6 that it occured on, not a C32. Come on, now. Even if it isn't directed at me, negativity isn't called for. :/
For the price, they will be the cheapest new headers one can pick up.
Also, that is an SRT-6 that it occured on, not a C32. Come on, now. Even if it isn't directed at me, negativity isn't called for. :/
For the price, they will be the cheapest new headers one can pick up.
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Apparently not.
Anyway, he’s not bagging on you personally.
“I’ve heard” doesn’t count for anything.
c32AMG-DTM is probably still hot you’ve pulled an M6 given your current milquetoast configuration.
Sorry to hear you’re so hard up for the $500. GLWS.
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SRT-6 has a different header design than the C32. These headers were made in a limited number and comparing one header to another within the model range would probably give some noticable variation. But some of you decided to take it even a step further and compare it to ANOTHER header model, NOT for the C32... which is even then based on a single test. Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, let the guy sell his headers, which are a steal for the $ he is asking for them.
Good luck with the sale Koru!
Good luck with the sale Koru!
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SRT-6 has a different header design than the C32. These headers were made in a limited number and comparing one header to another within the model range would probably give some noticable variation. But some of you decided to take it even a step further and compare it to ANOTHER header model, NOT for the C32... which is even then based on a single test.
Conjecture about "might make 10-15 hp" is worthless without evidence to support it. I agree completely that a sample-size of one isn't great, but it's better than nothing, and might be all we have to work with. The only back-to-back dyno that I'm aware of for a M112K vehicle, comparing OEM to VRP happened to be an SRT-6, and which lost power after install. If you or anyone else has back-to-back M112K dynos (ideally, C32-specific) demonstrating otherwise, I'm happy to be corrected if you can set the record straight.
I've also seen pictures shared by others of VRP C32 headers - the weld-quality and finishing work left something to be desired. IMHO.
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You are comparing an apple to an orange. We already established that SRT-6 headers and C32 headers are two different products. The only reason I would of compare the two is to see how VRP increases hp gains across its product line up (but this thread isn't about that). Would you buy a set of Kleeman headers for the C32 based on the gains that the E55 guys get? I wouldn't simply because they are DIFFERENT products!
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You are comparing an apple to an orange. We already established that SRT-6 headers and C32 headers are two different products. The only reason I would of compare the two is to see how VRP increases hp gains across its product line up (but this thread isn't about that). Would you buy a set of Kleeman headers for the C32 based on the gains that the E55 guys get? I wouldn't simply because they are DIFFERENT products!
Of course I wouldn't compare any header results on an E55 to a C32... there you'd be bringing some citrus into the equation. But, to tweak your example a bit, if Kleemann headers made a certain result on an E55, I'd expect a similar result on a CLS55/SL55/CL55.
Anyway, no problem if you don't agree it's a valid comparison. It's simply the only data we have that's close enough to be relevant. Educated guesses of "10-15 hp" that aren't based on actual measured output increases are misleading to potential purchasers; my $0.02.
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AFAIK, VRP's C32 header and SLK32/SRT-6 header are very-slightly different, due to slightly different engine-bay clearances, but are otherwise the same. You realize that the C32, SLK32, and SRT-6 all share the same engine, right? Maybe two different apples, but from the same orchard.
Of course I wouldn't compare any header results on an E55 to a C32... there you'd be bringing some citrus into the equation. But, to tweak your example a bit, if Kleemann headers made a certain result on an E55, I'd expect a similar result on a CLS55/SL55/CL55.
Anyway, no problem if you don't agree it's a valid comparison. It's simply the only data we have that's close enough to be relevant. Educated guesses of "10-15 hp" that aren't based on actual measured output increases are misleading to potential purchasers; my $0.02.
Of course I wouldn't compare any header results on an E55 to a C32... there you'd be bringing some citrus into the equation. But, to tweak your example a bit, if Kleemann headers made a certain result on an E55, I'd expect a similar result on a CLS55/SL55/CL55.
Anyway, no problem if you don't agree it's a valid comparison. It's simply the only data we have that's close enough to be relevant. Educated guesses of "10-15 hp" that aren't based on actual measured output increases are misleading to potential purchasers; my $0.02.
After all, this is not a "for sale" section. This a W203 AMG section and we are here to share information and opinions. Just read some of the other "header"
threads on this forum.
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AFAIK, VRP's C32 header and SLK32/SRT-6 header are very-slightly different, due to slightly different engine-bay clearances, but are otherwise the same. You realize that the C32, SLK32, and SRT-6 all share the same engine, right? Maybe two different apples, but from the same orchard.
Of course I wouldn't compare any header results on an E55 to a C32... there you'd be bringing some citrus into the equation. But, to tweak your example a bit, if Kleemann headers made a certain result on an E55, I'd expect a similar result on a CLS55/SL55/CL55.
Anyway, no problem if you don't agree it's a valid comparison. It's simply the only data we have that's close enough to be relevant. Educated guesses of "10-15 hp" that aren't based on actual measured output increases are misleading to potential purchasers; my $0.02.
Of course I wouldn't compare any header results on an E55 to a C32... there you'd be bringing some citrus into the equation. But, to tweak your example a bit, if Kleemann headers made a certain result on an E55, I'd expect a similar result on a CLS55/SL55/CL55.
Anyway, no problem if you don't agree it's a valid comparison. It's simply the only data we have that's close enough to be relevant. Educated guesses of "10-15 hp" that aren't based on actual measured output increases are misleading to potential purchasers; my $0.02.
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Not trying to ruffle any feathers, but VRP headers were dyno-tested on an SRT-6 and lost power, IIRC. Also have heard/read second-hand that they're not the greatest quality and after-sale support can be problematic. Caveat emptor (not directed at the OP, just the original product manufacturer).
Again, this is not directed at the OP, but at the quality of the headers. For the price, they are a good deal if you're looking for an alternative to the more expensive brands.
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I don't remember any posts about anyone having problems wth the headers...I know at least one guy out there has some killer dyno numbers using a set. Since I'm a diy-er I thought hard about getting these when kindafast was selling them (they were just too close to the cost of a negotiated EC headers price to warrant the purchase at that time)....if I weren't pulling funds together for a family vacation it would be on my mind again.
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I don't remember any posts about anyone having problems wth the headers...I know at least one guy out there has some killer dyno numbers using a set. Since I'm a diy-er I thought hard about getting these when kindafast was selling them (they were just too close to the cost of a negotiated EC headers price to warrant the purchase at that time)....if I weren't pulling funds together for a family vacation it would be on my mind again.
