Is a Sprintbooster worth it?
All the SprintBooster does is reduce the pedal travel by a bit less that 1/3. Calling that improved throttle response is a bit misleading IMHO, but sounds a lot better in marketing material than "reduces the pedal travel".
The Sprint Booster does not affect pedal travel, but it does affect the signal sent by the pedal to the ECU, amplifying the response. Throttle response (in the traditional sense of physically altering the throttle body) is not directly altered. However, the ECU does open the throttle faster based on the altered signal from the Sprint Booster.
By all accounts, you cannot replicate the affects of the product by stepping on the pedal harder/faster.
Oh really? Think you might want to test that, considering you supply no input that the pedal can't, and on your last generation product, didn't supply more voltage on either channel to the ECU than the pedal did without the SprintBooster.
x-axis is voltage on primary channel to ECU, y is pedal percentage depressed, including the kick-down button.
EDITED : Not 100% clear, but this is with the older, single mode SprintBooster, not the new dual mode.
Last edited by UK-C200; Feb 26, 2011 at 08:01 PM.
I can see exactly where you're coming from based on that chart - the voltage is there if you stomp on it. The product is sending more voltage earlier, but levels off at the top, indicating that beyond the 2/3 depression point you're seeing no gain. However, I wouldn't assume that the SB is able to provide any more voltage than is available - it's simply altering the signal to deliver it earlier.
There's no doubt that the product alters the way the throttle response feels, though. Those that are using the product have repeatedly reported that the sensation is far different than simply stomping on the pedal.
Because the SB was developed in response to widespread complaints about throttle lag due to drive by wire systems, it's probably important to recognize that the problem area is off-the-line acceleration. From a stand still, getting on the pedal will result in a noticeable lag between depression and vroom... Amplifying the signal will therefore be most noticeable at that early stage. This is consistent with the reports from Sprint Booster users.
Now, because effects of the product are not something that can be measured by HP or torque gain, it's difficult to provide empirical proof of performance. I'm happy to hang my hat on the positive reviews and awards the Sprint Booster has received, though.
All the SprintBooster does is reduce the pedal travel by a bit less that 1/3. Calling that improved throttle response is a bit misleading IMHO, but sounds a lot better in marketing material than "reduces the pedal travel".
First, I have installed the Sprint Booster 2 on my 2006 C55 AMG. My comments are therefore limited to the way it affects my car. While it seems plausible to me that the way it might impact another car (with throttle lag) would be similar to the effect it has on my car, "waking up" a motor with 362hp might produce a more significant impact than say waking up a motor with 250hp. That being said, the impact is always going to be "relative" to the way the car reacts before installation. Therefore, in that regard, the "difference" might well be similarly meaningful.
I have had mine installed for a few days now and in my opinion it "completely" changes the response of the car when you press the accelerator. Previously, the car would be sluggish off the line and then all of a sudden "bang" it would take off. Unless you got into the throttle, the response was somewhat uninspiring - disappointingly so IMHO. With the sprint booster on, the car responds almost immediately when you press the accelerator, and as you give it more pedal the power comes on in a "very linear way".
The 2nd gen Sprint Booster gives you the ability to switch between three modes: no boost (clear); high boost (red); and mid level boost (green). I drove the car for an hour yesterday switching between the three modes and the difference with either boost mode (green or red) engaged and clear (stock) is "night and day".
This is the most important point. There was "no way" for me to replicate the feeling I got with the sprint booster engaged versus stock mode - no matter how I tried to alter my push on the pedal. While I understand that part of the reaction with the sprint booster engaged is getting the effect of a more pronounced push on the accelerator with less push of the pedal (e.g., 1/4 travel equates to more than 1/4 pedal travel in stock mode). However, it's the way the power is delivered which is different.
With the sprint booster engaged, the power delivery feels very linear, with more acceleration coming from each little bit of incremental effort on the pedal. In OEM mode, it's like Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (very little impact from the initial push of the pedal until you hit a point and then it feels like you have floored the accelerator). My wife has often complained asking me why I am driving like a maniac.
The problem has been it is either little acceleration or tons of acceleration. I have often found myself apologizing to passengers in my car and pointing out that I'm not trying to drive like an idiot. It's just the way the car behaves. Again, I don't know how the product works technically, so I can't argue on the science. I am just providing an owners perspective.
One last thing, I too was a "non-believer". It seems plausible to me that perhaps all you get is the same effect you would get by pressing the pedal harder. So I held off buying the sprint booster until recently. Now that I have it, I am disappointed that I remained a non-believer as long as I did. I could have enjoyed the benefits of the sprint booster a long time ago had I taken a chance on it when I first learned of it. If you are like me - geez, these naysayers have a point - I would suggest you stop wringing your hands over this decision. Buy it and try it out. It's the best couple hundred dollars I have ever spent on my car (any car). And, it's risk free (as long as you do not get it on a group buy). Even then, I would suspect you'd be able to resell it on these forums or on e-bay if you wanted - although I can't imagine anyone installing this product and ever wanting to go back to the stock configuration.
Last edited by mgiannetto; Feb 27, 2011 at 02:26 PM.
First, I have installed the Sprint Booster 2 on my 2006 C55 AMG. My comments are therefore limited to the way it affects my car. It seems plausible to me that the way it might impact another car (with throttle lag) would be similar to the effect it has on my car, "waking up" a motor with 362hp might produce a more significant impact than say waking up a motor with 250hp. That being said, the impact is always going to be "relative" to the way the car reacts before installation. Therefore, in that regard, the "difference" might well be similarly meaningful.
I have had mine installed for a few days now and in my opinion it "completely" changes the response of the car when you press the accelerator. Previously, the car would be sluggish off the line and then all of a sudden "bang" it would take off. Unless you got into the throttle, the response was somewhat uninspiring - disappointingly so IMHO. With the sprint booster on, the car responds almost immediately when you press the accelerator and as you give it more pedal, the power comes on in a "very linear way".
The 2nd gen Spring Booster gives you the ability to switch between three modes: no boost (clear); high boost (red); and mid level boost (green). I drove the car for an hour yesterday switching between the three modes and the difference with either boost mode (green or red) engaged and clear (stock) is "night and day".
This is the most important point. There was "no way" for me to replicate the feeling I got with the sprint booster engaged versus stock mode - no matter how I tried to alter my push on the pedal. While I understand that part of the reaction with the spring booster engaged is getting the effect of a more pronounced push on the accelerator with less push of the pedal (e.g., 1/4 travel equates to more than 1/4 pedal travel in stock mode). However, it's the way the power is delivered which is different.
With the spring booster engaged, the power delivery feels very linear, with more acceleration coming from each little bit of incremental effort on the pedal. In OEM mode, it's like doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (very little impact from the initial push of the pedal until you hit a point and then it feels like you have floored the accelerator). My wife has often complained asking me why I am driving like a maniac. The problem has been it is either little acceleration or tons of acceleration. I have often found myself apologizing to passengers in my car and pointing out that I'm not trying to drive like an idiot. It's just the way the car behaves.
Again, I don't know how the product works technically, so I can't argue on the science. I am just providing an owners perspective.
One last thing, I too was a "non-believer". It seems plausible to me that perhaps all you get is the same effect you would get by pressing the pedal harder. So I held off buying the sprint booster until recently. Now that I have it, I am disappointed that I remained a non-believer as long as I did. I could have enjoyed the benefits of the sprint booster a long time ago had I taken a chance on it when I first learned of it. If you are like me - geez, these naysayers have a point - I would suggest you stop wringing your hands over this decision. Buy it and try it out. It's the best couple hundred dollars I have ever spent on my car (any car). And, it's risk free (as long as you do not get it on a group buy). Even then, I would suspect you'd be able to resell it on these forums or on e-bay if you wanted - although I can't imagine anyone installing this product and ever wanting to go back to the stock configuration.
Uh, yeah....what he said....
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Make no mistake, the SB feels great, BUT it DOES NOT make your car any quicker. ONLY mods will do that...............
Make no mistake, the SB feels great, BUT it DOES NOT make your car any quicker. ONLY mods will do that...............
In sum, the SB is probably not necessary for someone who has a lot of open space or who goes to full throttle often. But if you drive in traffic regularly, it's fantastic and well worth the money, IMHO.
In sum, the SB is probably not necessary for someone who has a lot of open space or who goes to full throttle often. But if you drive in traffic regularly, it's fantastic and well worth the money, IMHO.
This may be the best $300 mod I have ever purchased. And I'll just note, that I have spent countless thousands on my Porsche 911 (full exhast - headers, cats, cat back, software, etc.) and I'm not sure anything has given me this kind of satisfaction! I know I sound like a commercial but it's a must have for any C55 owner.
If you guys don't have one fitted yet, procrastinate no more... just go and get one!
Like joeljp said, I have turned mine off a few times just to "feel the difference" and it is just stunning. I can't believe they let this car out of the factory the way they did. The SB or something like it (whether done by adjustment to the ECU or otherwise) should be mandatory on any AMG leaving the factory.
This may be the best $300 mod I have ever purchased. And I'll just note, that I have spent countless thousands on my Porsche 911 (full exhast - headers, cats, cat back, software, etc.) and I'm not sure anything has given me this kind of satisfaction! I know I sound like a commercial but it's a must have for any C55 owner.
Anyway, assuming that there is no real difference in quarter mile times, does not mean there is no actual difference in quickness in normal street driving. This is for the reason Slater126 gave below. At anything other than WOT, there is both an actual and a perceived difference in quickness.
With a second generation SB, you can play around all day with the SB on and the SB off and you will see that the difference is "night and day" - in all but perhaps WOT application. I don't know about everyone else, but most of my driving is not done in WOT mode. With the SB, there is simply no need for that anymore. Plus, you eliminate the light switch operation of the stock accelerator pedal.
In sum, the SB is probably not necessary for someone who has a lot of open space or who goes to full throttle often. But if you drive in traffic regularly, it's fantastic and well worth the money, IMHO.






