Just picked up an e90 M3, thinking of trading in the C55.
03-17-2011, 04:25 PM
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03-17-2011, 05:28 PM
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Man, the other day, I was just getting off work and a black M3 with the plates E90 M3 pulled next to me, I Soooooooo wanted to race, but we're on a main street with lots of people and traffic, so I'm like can't do it. He kinda took off like he wanted to race, but I held back.
Then about 3 blocks later, were two cops parked just outside their car. PHEW!!
Then about 4 more blocks, the light turned Yellow and I stopped, he floored it, so I lost him. DAMN!
Congrats on the car, I LOVE the way those cars look!
Then about 3 blocks later, were two cops parked just outside their car. PHEW!!
Then about 4 more blocks, the light turned Yellow and I stopped, he floored it, so I lost him. DAMN!
Congrats on the car, I LOVE the way those cars look!
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Man, the other day, I was just getting off work and a black M3 with the plates E90 M3 pulled next to me, I Soooooooo wanted to race, but we're on a main street with lots of people and traffic, so I'm like can't do it. He kinda took off like he wanted to race, but I held back.
Then about 3 blocks later, were two cops parked just outside their car. PHEW!!
Then about 4 more blocks, the light turned Yellow and I stopped, he floored it, so I lost him. DAMN!
Congrats on the car, I LOVE the way those cars look!
Then about 3 blocks later, were two cops parked just outside their car. PHEW!!
Then about 4 more blocks, the light turned Yellow and I stopped, he floored it, so I lost him. DAMN!
Congrats on the car, I LOVE the way those cars look!
I'm sure you'll get your chance to race one another day. Good luck!
03-17-2011, 06:17 PM
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03-17-2011, 06:49 PM
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I have an '09 E90 M3 and love it. Definitly a better car than the C55, no offense to anyone here, C55 is sweet, but the E9X M3 takes it any day, C63 is another story.
03-17-2011, 07:08 PM
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Dude, I'm an ex-M3 owner, so I understand it quite well. The problem seems to be that you don't understand RPMs very well.
The C55 will hit published numbers consistently and with minimum fuss because it makes 370 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm. M3 makes peak torque (80 ft-lbs less) at what 5k? Where do you make your peak HP? 8k? C55 makes it at 5k. Fanbois who read magazines will only look at the HP number, without any understanding of where the power is delivered in the rev band.
In the real world, you don't have room to let the RPMs climb. Any car that makes power at astronomical revs will be slower than cars that make power at low down in the band. Fact. Torque is more important in real life. Fact.
I adore the M3, don't get me wrong. Let's not make this into an M3 versus AMG argument either.
The C55 will hit published numbers consistently and with minimum fuss because it makes 370 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm. M3 makes peak torque (80 ft-lbs less) at what 5k? Where do you make your peak HP? 8k? C55 makes it at 5k. Fanbois who read magazines will only look at the HP number, without any understanding of where the power is delivered in the rev band.
In the real world, you don't have room to let the RPMs climb. Any car that makes power at astronomical revs will be slower than cars that make power at low down in the band. Fact. Torque is more important in real life. Fact.
I adore the M3, don't get me wrong. Let's not make this into an M3 versus AMG argument either.
03-17-2011, 07:09 PM
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03-17-2011, 07:13 PM
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Sure. Except you look downright silly revving to 9k going to get a gallon of milk. Not to mention the NVH associated with astronomical revs will really wear you down pretty quickly.
Its a question of driver effort and stress. Hitting the number in a torquey car is low stress, hitting the same number in a screamer is hard work and stressful.
Its a question of driver effort and stress. Hitting the number in a torquey car is low stress, hitting the same number in a screamer is hard work and stressful.
^^ You sound like you've driven my old S2000?? Hard work, nah, stressful, yes!!
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03-17-2011, 08:02 PM
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I would hope so. Any new next generation car should be better than the previous generation. The C55's primary competition was the E46 M3...
03-17-2011, 08:37 PM
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Others have answered as well - Clutch Delay Valve.
Here you go - all you need to know. Have a read here:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm
Had one in my '01 540i and once I learned about it I had it removed.
You need to be careful because removing it can result in warranty issues - should you have a problem with the trans. You should remove and replace with one that has the internals removed - such as the one Dave Z. sells.
Here you go - all you need to know. Have a read here:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm
Had one in my '01 540i and once I learned about it I had it removed.
You need to be careful because removing it can result in warranty issues - should you have a problem with the trans. You should remove and replace with one that has the internals removed - such as the one Dave Z. sells.
03-17-2011, 08:44 PM
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a quarter mile at a time
SMG is a single clutch, electro-hydraulically actuated manual transmission
DCT (aka DKG, PDK) uses dual clutches, one for even gears and another for odd gears. Shifts are near instantaneous as the gearbox is essentially always in 2 gears at the same time. When an upshift or downshift occurs, the next gear is selected, and driveline power is switched by engaging the opposing clutch while disengaging the other clutch at the same time.
The E9x M3's DCT is manufactured by Getrag and is similar to the unit used by Ferrari in the California.
DCT (aka DKG, PDK) uses dual clutches, one for even gears and another for odd gears. Shifts are near instantaneous as the gearbox is essentially always in 2 gears at the same time. When an upshift or downshift occurs, the next gear is selected, and driveline power is switched by engaging the opposing clutch while disengaging the other clutch at the same time.
The E9x M3's DCT is manufactured by Getrag and is similar to the unit used by Ferrari in the California.
