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Old 09-09-2011, 05:24 PM
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Power Loss not Intercooler Pump

So I've noticed recently my C32 is starting to bog out when driving around town. Especially when driving "normal" (IE Not zooming around town)

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1. Seems to happen most when driving at any speed below 60 MPH (city driving)

2. Seems to be more noticeable when it's hot outside -though it still happens a night when it's cool so I could just be imagining things.

3. If I'm going up a hill and I press the gas about 35%, car will bog out until I press the gas more. The speedometer gauge will drop until I press the gas about 75% or more. Then the car down shifts and it's fine.

The symptoms are similar to when my Intercooler pump died. However, I just replaced it about 6 weeks or so ago and I can hear it. It seems to be working. I don't think the supercharger is shutting down.

The best way I can describe the issue in a nut shell - Imagine driving a manual transmission in 3rd gear then jumping to 5th. The car would obviously bog down and run like crap until you went back into the correct gear. The symptoms are sort of similar. It's almost as if the gets confused and doesn't know what gear to use. Keep in mind this happens when I've already got decent speed going towards the hill. (These are not large hills mind you)

Any ideas where to start looking?

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Yea I thought it could be that, but I just flushed the tranny recently. These symptoms where present before and after the flush.
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check your coolant level and take out your intake manifold to see if your intercooler is not leaking that sounds like that could be it.
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Coolant level looks good. I had the manifold off just recently while changing out the gaskets and everything looked good. Though I may take it apart tonight and have another look.

Thanks for the suggestions, open to whatever is thrown at me.
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Originally Posted by Budget Baller
Coolant level looks good. I had the manifold off just recently while changing out the gaskets and everything looked good. Though I may take it apart tonight and have another look.

Thanks for the suggestions, open to whatever is thrown at me.
surely take another look because mine started leaking out no where it wasnt verry noticeable as far as coolant lever going down drasticaly.
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hmm, alright, I'll head out to the garage and take a look in the next hour or so. I'll report back on what I find.

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Same happened to me

I had the same symptoms. Turned out to be the transmission. The previous owner never serviced it and mine died. Cost me about 4k.
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Gas pedal sensor, or throttle body? Did you run any tests to see if it has a code?
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You may still have air in your cooling system when you replaced the pump. I would check there to start.
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@C_DirtyTwo no I haven't hooked up the OBD meter. Didn't even consider the gas padel. Any way to tell for sure?

@loudandheard How would I know if there is air still in the line? I assumed we'd gotten most of the bubbles out. When we first changed the pump the car kept saying the coolant was low. We "pumped" the lines and pushed out quite a few air bubbles. Then coolant error disappeared and it's been fine every since. So I don't THINK there is air in the lines, but I could be wrong.
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The coolant sensor only lets you know that the coolant is low. You may have a bad pump.

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I wonder if some diagnostics with an infra-red heat gun would tell you what's going on with the I/C pump?
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Originally Posted by loudandheard
The coolant sensor only lets you know that the coolant is low. You may have a bad pump.
I'm guessing if the pump was bad though the car would overheat no? I ran it around town yesterday (temp was about 84 outside) Car was hovering around 94-97C. This was stop and go under moderate to heavy acceleration. (Temps where read from the hidden AC menu)

Monday I'm going to hook it up to an OBD and see if it's throwing any codes.
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Originally Posted by betrezra
I wonder if some diagnostics with an infra-red heat gun would tell you what's going on with the I/C pump?
Good idea. I'll see if I can't get a hold of one.

I have to ask, what readings should I be picking up?
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its possible the the iat sensor has gone bad giving false readings at random times to the ecu
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Heres the thing though. When the car bogs down, I'm pretty sure the SC is still on because I can hear the whine. The whine is so quite though it's not often that I hear it anyway.
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I had this problem, my mechanic changed my ECU and everything been fine since. Fingers crossed.
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Though we're not 100% sure yet, we're thinking it may be the SC.

Yesterday the cars temp was about 97 (read via the hidden AC menu) Today the cars temp was around 89-90ish and the car seemed to be running better. (It wasn't nearly as hot outside today as it was yesterday)

Does anyone know if there is a way to read how hot the SC is getting?

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