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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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The Power of your C32

Please list the mods and the power gain of your C32s

Wanna get a rough idea on who has the quickest C32 on this forum or any other mates they know

Stock C32 do mid 13s 0-400m.What mods are needed to do high 12s or even mid 12s?

Mate of mine with has a Skyline R33 GTsT that does high to mid 12s and he is saying that Mercs are slow and irresponsive to mods....
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:07 AM
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hmm.... Mercedes are slow....... To answer your question I am the fastest.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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Re: The Power of your C32

Originally posted by Jon200
....Mate of mine with has a Skyline R33 GTsT that does high to mid 12s and he is saying that Mercs are slow and irresponsive to mods....
An argument like this is so childish. Does your mate drive or own a Mercedes? Not to mention a moded one......

Yes, there are so many cars that are much faster than the C32, and probably Skyline is one of them. So what? We are buying our cars to enjoy, not to enter into some "who is the fatest" contest. To me, if my car can run mid-high 12's, I would be delighted, but if my car can only run mid 13's, I would still be pleased.

The bottom line is: be happy and drive safe.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:43 AM
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Your friend might like this pic. Here is my mom's daily driver, she is on the way to the 7/11, she was out of beer j/k
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Actually you will find that most benz's are usually just starting to get into their preferred power bands at the end of the quarter.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 05:22 AM
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Why don't you guys show your dyno hp of your mod C32 ?

Vadim's get 358 rwhp.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Shine
Why don't you guys show your dyno hp of your mod C32 ?

Vadim's get 358 rwhp.
Dynos mean abosutly nothing. They are used for tuning air fuel at WOT.

Take it to the track! 1/8 or 1/4 thats where you find out who is faster!

Vadim's C32 dynos more than my vette 340 rwhp and my vette runs high 11's at 114. With the heads I am getting I should dyno about 360 to 370 to the wheels which should get me low 11's at 120+.

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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Re: The Power of your C32

Originally posted by Jon200

Mate of mine with has a Skyline R33 GTsT that does high to mid 12s and he is saying that Mercs are slow and irresponsive to mods.... [/B]
that is so stupid to say something like that...i have a r34 with twin t88's...a REAL skyline. and i have several benzes and for your friend to say that benzes are slow and irresponsive to mods is ridiculous. he obvious hasnt driven and definitely doesnt own a perfomance oriented benz...i.e. AMG. if he did he would know not to make *** statements. tell your friend to look me up...ill show him a real benz that'll make him change his mind... or i can show him a real skyline... non of that r33 garbage.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Dyno readings give you a rough idea of power, but are an inexact science. Nonetheless, they are about the closest thing that there is to an objective reading of your car's performance. Drag times are not reliable as, unless you compare infallible robots, launch times and techniques vary from driver to driver and from run to run.

As for my car, I did a baseline dyno of 288 rwhp and 294 rwtq a few weeks ago at a local shop here. I had the Evopsport Stage I (plus SL55 intake) done on Tuesday. I plan to re-dyno next week. The car feels ALOT stronger. Punk in a 2002 or so Mustang GT yesterday on the freeway seemed like he was standing still when my car dropped down into 3rd. A few minutes later, I stayed dead even from 20-70 with a Honda CBR F1, and there was no doubt from the sound that he was wringing everything he could from the motor. I would guess that the post-mods dyno results will be up in the range of 340 rwhp.

Evosport is seriously in the process of developing a 190mm pulley kit for the C32, which will increase boost to 20 psi (stock is 15; current pulley mod brings it to 17). In fact, they already have a prototype kit built (Vadim showed it to me). According to Vadim, testing is soon to begin (on his car, presumably) to see how the larger pulley works. If it works as planned, you could probably see 370 rwhp from a Stage I mod. Evosport is also developing a high-efficiency intercooler and is working on an adaptation of the SL55 airbox for the C32, which will further increase performance. I think that a C32 is certainly capable of high 11's in the quarter with these mods, especially with some weight reduction measures taken (see post entitled "C32 weight reduction"). The best part is that you wont look like a caricature in some Japanese cartoon while doing so. . . I refer to the "my spoiler is bigger than yours" syndrome rampant among post-adolescents running around in what is essentially a low-end Enterprise Rent-A-Car with a turbocharger.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Is the bigger pully really going to provide an extra 30 rear wheel HP? That seems like a lot.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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stage 1 jumps the charger 3psi yielding ~30whp proven on the dyno, so that claim for an even larger pulley seems reasonable.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Yeh I know my mate is stupid because he has never driven anything but Jap (didn't mean to be rude)

I am not trying to get some figures or facts to prove him wrong but I wanna get an idea myself and learn about the C32 engine thats all.

Would like some dyno figures of worked C32s if possible

Thanks
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Of course, the dyno run refer to the same model !

We get mod C32AMG,Kleemann C32K, Carlsson C32O ....here, dyno ranged from 250~ 350+ rwhp.
Carlsson claims 300 ps,Yes it is. ~ 250 rwhp.

Wanna try the lowers can beat the highers of same model ?
I don't.

To those rwhp of 350+, chipped RS4 (420 ps) gain
nothing on them & AWD slightly drag RS4 behind in high speed.

As to the 996TT, dyno 360 rwhp well,it's a different model
We're expecting Vadim's 370+ rwhp version to compete with.


E55AMG start at much higher 430 rwhp, maybe our next car.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Dyno figures for various cars

Hey Shine: You sound like you either own or work in a dyno shop or have a friend that does? What have you been able to determine re: variances between dyno runs with the same car? Do differing ambient temperature majorly affect the C32's HP and/or torque? How about humidity or barometric pressure? What is the % margin of error on most dyno machines? Which is the best dyno machine? Which machine or machines should we all avoid? Any info would be cool, as I think that most of us are clueless as to the intricacies of dyno testing.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Shine
Why don't you guys show your dyno hp of your mod C32 ?

Vadim's get 358 rwhp.
:cough: 379rwhp before Stage III He should have about 400-420 when Stage III is complete.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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That tweaked MB looks like someone was trying to copy a 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird.

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Re: Dyno figures for various cars

Hi, Vomit

Yes, area ,weather, shops, fuel quality.....differs the dyno result.
When MB members gathering here,we appoint the dynojet
a full day, test our cars one by one. we invite mag media to
report it (they love such a topic & fund the dyno fees)
So we get a whole picture of those different mods of W203/W209/W211.

I'd recommend the most convient dyno machine in where you
live, keep recording all your mods in one same dyno & look
into the improvement.


Originally posted by Vomit
Hey Shine: You sound like you either own or work in a dyno shop or have a friend that does? What have you been able to determine re: variances between dyno runs with the same car? Do differing ambient temperature majorly affect the C32's HP and/or torque? How about humidity or barometric pressure? What is the % margin of error on most dyno machines? Which is the best dyno machine? Which machine or machines should we all avoid? Any info would be cool, as I think that most of us are clueless as to the intricacies of dyno testing.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mach430
:cough: 379rwhp before Stage III He should have about 400-420 when Stage III is complete.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Dyno output figures

Different dynos will always have different figures because of the following: 1. Altitude 2. Air temp 3. Humidity 4. Mileage of the car 5. Engine temp. The only way to compare 2 or more dynos is to take all the above-mentioned facts into consideration. Also before a dyno run, you should drive the car for aprox 10 minutes so that the gearbox and diff also warm up, because that also have an influance on the HP figures.
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Re: Dyno output figures

Originally posted by AMG FANATIC
Different dynos will always have different figures because of the following: 1. Altitude 2. Air temp 3. Humidity 4. Mileage of the car 5. Engine temp. The only way to compare 2 or more dynos is to take all the above-mentioned facts into consideration.
This is what the Dynojet does (minus mileage).

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