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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 04:10 PM
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My 2007 Mercedes-Benz cls550 does not crank when engine is hot

2007 Mercedes-Benz CLS550 does not crank when engine is hot. In morning going to work and in evening coming from work, the car starts OK. I replace battery and the problem is the same.
I can test battery from the Starter relay. I can measure voltage at the input of the Starter relay.
What is a problem?

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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 05:12 PM
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Any issues while it is running?
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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Faulty CPS?
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:14 PM
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Any issues while it is running?
No issue at all while it is running. The engine runs smoothly and shows strong power
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:15 PM
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Faulty CPS?
I don't know yet about CPS. The engine runs smoothly and shows strong power.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:10 AM
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No issue at all while it is running. The engine runs smoothly and shows strong power
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:11 AM
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I don't know yet about CPS. The engine runs smoothly and shows strong power.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 11:04 PM
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Check the starter relay (remove it from the car and open it up). I had a similar issue on an S class caused by a starter relay with a bunch of bad contacts.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 11:16 PM
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On the 273 it's usually a faulty starter if it won't restart hot, but as suggested above, check the relay first.
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Old Jun 27, 2018 | 12:38 AM
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The starter is controlled by 3 relays:
1. Engine circuit relay
2. Starter relay
3. Circuit relay
The engine circuit and starter relays are controlled or turned on by 2 signals from the ME control module.
The circuit relay is controlled by the ignition key. These 3 relays reside in the Driver Side SAM control module.

I will check them on this weekend.

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Originally Posted by johnny425
The starter is controlled by 3 relays:
1. Engine circuit relay
2. Starter relay
3. Circuit relay
The engine circuit and starter relays are controlled or turned on by 2 signals from the ME control module.
The circuit relay is controlled by the ignition key. These 3 relays reside in the Driver Side SAM control module.

I will check them on this weekend.

Johnny
Can you describe the symptoms a bit better? What exactly is happening when it isn't starting? Any noises?
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No crank and very quiet
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Old Jun 27, 2018 | 07:18 PM
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There is a connector on the top of the engine that has the trigger wire for the starter solenoid. It's a 2.5mm purple/white wire. If you jump power to it, the starter will spin. This is how you quickly rule out a starter without chasing a bunch of relays or taking anything apart. I'll try to post up a pic of it but Star Wiring has been funny lately, I don't know if they got it fixed.
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My car has a starter problem. The 12V on the starter solenoid used to start engine cranking (turn ignition key to Start) is shorted to ground when engine is hot.
I find out from the Starter relay. The Starter relay has input voltage of 12V (Pin 3) and 12V (Pin 1 and 2) to close connection but its output (Pin 5) is 0V. The output should be 12V. The output is connected to the starter solenoid. I measure resistance to be 0.2 Ohm between the output and ground when engine is hot.
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