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Old 04-16-2020, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
My current E55 is making 356whp and 381tq. That’s a 2002 NA
My 208 55 is around 465hp and 470tq. I’m not trying to overstate, but it’s more than that.






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My 208 55 is around 465hp and 470tq. I’m not trying to overstate, but it’s more than that.





makes 465whp?? Seems like a lot for a Kleemann car
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
makes 465whp?? Seems like a lot for a Kleemann car
Prob closer to 480. AMG duplicated the Kleemann setup.

I’m not trying to overstate figures:


https://catalog.kleemann.dk/catalog/...arger-kit-113/

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Prob closer to 480. AMG duplicated this Kleemann setup on later years.

I’m not trying to overstate figures:


https://catalog.kleemann.dk/catalog/...arger-kit-113/
ha! I would take that with a grain of salt. It probably maybe makes 400whp. I’ve seen an E55 dyno recently with a Kleeman supercharger made 380whp and 380tq. I doubt to your car is making 480whp. Also I wouldn’t trust ripping on that car if you haven’t dynoed it or seen AFR readings
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
ha! I would take that with a grain of salt. It probably maybe makes 400whp. I’ve seen an E55 dyno recently with a Kleeman supercharger made 380whp and 380tq. I doubt to your car is making 480whp. Also I wouldn’t trust ripping on that car if you haven’t dynoed it or seen AFR readings
It would be foolish for me to lie about such a thing. The numbers for my car are clearly stated on the sheet which I believe you overlooked.

Consult w/ Kleemann if you think they are lying about their products level of output, but I can assure you that’s not the case.

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It would be foolish for me to lie about such a thing. The numbers for my car are clearly stated on the sheet which I believe you overlooked.

Consult w/ Kleemann if you think they are lying about their products level of output, but I can assure you that’s not the case.
Hey guy, not trying to talk ****. But as with most companies that is the case. Get your car dynoed and let’s find out! I am sure will will maybe make 400whp.
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Hey guy, not trying to talk ****. But as with most companies that is the case. Get your car dynoed and let’s find out! I am sure will will maybe make 400whp.

Maybe 420ish as that’s what the SLK cars seem to make. One made 465 on E85.
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It would be foolish for me to lie about such a thing. The numbers for my car are clearly stated on the sheet which I believe you overlooked.

Consult w/ Kleemann if you think they are lying about their products level of output, but I can assure you that’s not the case.
I currently own a set of Kleemann headers, and they are Chinese made crap lol.
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We are about to release a K conversion kit that will allow all M113 motors to run the K supercharger on the factory 6 rib belt. its basically a pulley kit with a factory K ECU and wiring harness.

The M113 is easily capable of making over 500HP with the e55 stock blower. Without going into too much detail i can say one of the prominent 55k Guys runs NA motors in most of his K cars.
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We are about to release a K conversion kit that will allow all M113 motors to run the K supercharger on the factory 6 rib belt. its basically a pulley kit with a factory K ECU and wiring harness.

The M113 is easily capable of making over 500HP with the e55 stock blower. Without going into too much detail i can say one of the prominent 55k Guys runs NA motors in most of his K cars.
thats neat. But a NA 113 motor won’t last long past 500whp, maybe 550whp.
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We are about to release a K conversion kit that will allow all M113 motors to run the K supercharger on the factory 6 rib belt. its basically a pulley kit with a factory K ECU and wiring harness.

The M113 is easily capable of making over 500HP with the e55 stock blower. Without going into too much detail i can say one of the prominent 55k Guys runs NA motors in most of his K cars.
Why release a kit when it can properly be done with factory parts? Have you successfully done this?

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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
thats neat. But a NA 113 motor won’t last long past 500whp, maybe 550whp.
Yep, right around 550, Still pretty great for a total investment of probably 2000


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Why release a kit when it can properly be done with factory parts? Have you successfully done this?

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Have i successfully bolted a m113k crank pulley and supercharger onto a m113 with a wiring harness and ecu?

My kit will end up being cheaper than sourcing the extra k parts unless you're getting all of them off of a donor engine, Specifically the cost of the crank pulley. It will also utilize the Clutch delete pulley design, and will not require any modification other than removing the Secondary Air Injection pump bracket. I have Ecus Pre Virginized, so everything is as easy as possible. The kit has been ready, Just been extremely busy with bi-turbo and m133 product development.
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Why release a kit when it can properly be done with factory parts? Have you successfully done this?

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I think cheap is the main point with anything VRP related

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Originally Posted by VictoryRoadPerformance
Have i successfully bolted a m113k crank pulley and supercharger onto a m113 with a wiring harness and ecu?
Have you installed your kit successfully on a car?
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Have you installed your kit successfully on a car?

Yea it would be great to see it in action, is this kit for all 113 engines, 210,203 and 171?
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Yea it would be great to see it in action, is this kit for all 113 engines, 210,203 and 171?
Our CLK500-K is getting our 3l whipple supercharger prototype. but once we run it with that ill get the 113k stock blower on with the 6rib belt and get some vids for you.
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
I currently own a set of Kleemann headers, and they are Chinese made crap lol.
Did you acquire the headers directly from China? It sounds like yours might be knockoff. You need to be careful of such things when buying from eBay.

Most people are satisfied w/ their genuine Kleemann headers:



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Did you acquire the headers directly from China? It sounds like yours might be knockoff. You need to be careful of such things when buying from eBay.

Most people are satisfied w/ their genuine Kleemann headers:


I bought them from Kleemann bud! If they aren’t made in China the welds and inside of the headers aren’t very nice. Did you look at yours before they were installed? The person with the SL probably another person who doesn’t know much about cars. Sure I was happy with my headers also. But I am pretty sure Kleemann USA doesn’t make them in America. I’ve installed 30 sets of headers, American racing, MBH, vrp, Klemann. Only headers man in America( dyno comp, MBH, and American racing), everything else made in China.

I bought them from Kleemann bud! If they aren’t made in China the welds and inside of the headers aren’t very nice. Did you look at yours before they were installed? The person with the SL probably another person who doesn’t know much about cars. Sure I was happy with my headers also. But I am pretty sure Kleemann USA doesn’t make them in America. I’ve installed 30 sets of headers, American racing, MBH, vrp, Klemann. Only headers man in America( dyno comp, MBH, and American racing), everything else made in China. Usually when they are made to order, equals made in America. Usually when they are in stock and have multiple sets, made in China. That’s just how it works
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i have seen multiple sets of kleeman split at the weld, we have not had that problem with EC headers.
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I currently own a set of Kleemann headers, and they are Chinese made crap lol.
100% Agree - they are very poorly made....the inside looks like a train wreck.


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100% Agree - they are very poorly made....the inside looks like a train wreck.


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getting custom ones made this summer. Who made those?
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Our CLK500-K is getting our 3l whipple supercharger prototype. but once we run it with that ill get the 113k stock blower on with the 6rib belt and get some vids for you.
Very interested in this CLK500-K project car you are working on as the M113K supercharger may be an upgrade from the Kleemann Supercharger I'm currently running; if you have any news on this project, please let the CLK W209 folks know. I watch the youtuber Legitstreetcars often and Alex often uses VRP products on his projects.
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Hello, new member here. Has there been any update on the k swap kit for the N/A m113 engines? I haven't seem any products like this on the VRP website yet.
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Originally Posted by VictoryRoadPerformance
Yep, right around 550, Still pretty great for a total investment of probably 2000




Have i successfully bolted a m113k crank pulley and supercharger onto a m113 with a wiring harness and ecu?

My kit will end up being cheaper than sourcing the extra k parts unless you're getting all of them off of a donor engine, Specifically the cost of the crank pulley. It will also utilize the Clutch delete pulley design, and will not require any modification other than removing the Secondary Air Injection pump bracket. I have Ecus Pre Virginized, so everything is as easy as possible. The kit has been ready, Just been extremely busy with bi-turbo and m133 product development.
note: only ME2.8 Cars right now.
I have a 2005 C55, is that an ME2.8 car? If so, sign me up!
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
My current E55 is making 356whp and 381tq. That’s a 2002 NA

Is is still n/a? What is done to it?


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