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Old 07-16-2004, 10:29 AM
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well as most of you are thinking of purchasing as a future mod or currently have it. ¿ I was wondering if i can buy the C55 exhaust for my 2004 C32 ?

i know it might not work cause i think i read a post earlier saying it wont fit or something however i am really considering getting quad exhaust and i just dont want any other system other then the amg one.

does anybody know an economic way to go about this if i cant just take a C55 exhaust and put it on.... like for ex: just attach another pipe or whatever its terminology might be and attach dual AMG tips on it making dual AMG tips on both the left <-- (current) and right --> (hopefully future)

can anyone help i would like to get started ASAP... maybe send me some item # or whatever... thanx
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The very first thing you need to do is to find out the constuction of the C55 exhaust. You can either run down to your dealership and see if they have any C55 or ask "marcusbenz". I believed Marcus has a C55 in their lot, so he might be able to peek undrneath the car and check whether the C55 has a true quad exhaust or it has an extension pipe.

If the C55 has an extension pipe constuction, you can definitely purchase it and bolt it right onto your C32. But I highly doubt it.

I am guessing the C55 will most likely have the true quad exhaust, sure, you can still buy the exhaust and put it on your car, but you will need to do MAJOR modification to the undercarriage of the car such as removing/trimming of the sparetire well. This is the price that you have to pay if you "just dont want any other system other then the amg one"......

I am not sure whether you know exactly what you want. If you dont want any other system other than AMG, to me, a "system" means the whole thing, muffler + catback. There is no "economic way" to do it if you insist on that. You can custom build an extension pipe, get two non-C55 AMG tips and still achieve that quad exhaust look or you can get the Carlsson quad exhaust and bolt it right on.
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It is a Sebring Exhaust that actually is NOT a true Quad Exhaust. There is a collector pipe and looks as if it can be fitted on any other W203. It looks poorly built as well.
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does anyone have a carlsson or any other quad exhaust installed on there car?
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Originally Posted by e-fivehundred
It is a Sebring Exhaust that actually is NOT a true Quad Exhaust. There is a collector pipe and looks as if it can be fitted on any other W203. It looks poorly built as well.

Wow, are you sure? I am VERY surprised that MB has put an extension pipe on the C55. Wow!
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Originally Posted by AdaMBombC32G
does anyone have a carlsson or any other quad exhaust installed on there car?
I do.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/65796-finally-better-pics-carlsson-quad-exhaust-c32.html
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Originally Posted by Harris
Wow, are you sure? I am VERY surprised that MB has put an extension pipe on the C55. Wow!
I'll take pictures next time. Sorry that I didn't do so earlier. But it didn't look like a nicely built exhaust. It had a lot of welding marks like it was pieced together.
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Hi Harris:

Looking through the old thread you cited I noticed that you never posted a picture of the underside of your car. If you get a chance can you put the car on a lift and take a picture of the underside?
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Wiedermann also told me that it is NOT a true quad exhaust. It has a pipe and branches off for the right side. I believe he also told me that the spare wheel well is mounted differently on the c55 to make room for the exhaust pipe or it will hit the right wheel suspension.
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yeah no way its a true quad...splitter in the center into two seperate mufflers.
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So when people say "true quad", do they mean 4 pipes coming from the engine to the back of the car? Sounds horribly inefficient to me.

Got a chance to glance under the C55 to check the setup, unfortunately I didn't have a digicam handy. The exhaust comes off the engine headers in two separate pipes which join at around the gearbox area, then a single (larger) pipe from there to the rear differential area, where it again separates into two pipes, each leading to an identical-looking muffler on either side of the spare tire well, each of which has twin exhaust tips. The spare tire well on the C55 is indeed made smaller as a result, which means C55's get an inflatable space-saver spare tire (nothing else will fit in that well).

I did not notice any sloppy-looking welds, all the welds were clean, MIG-type.

My guess is that the quad exhaust is not retrofittable to other C-class cars unless some extensive work is done on the spare tire well.

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Exclamation W203 Class exhaust configurations

Originally Posted by sunman
Wiedermann also told me that it is NOT a true quad exhaust. It has a pipe and branches off for the right side. I believe he also told me that the spare wheel well is mounted differently on the c55 to make room for the exhaust pipe or it will hit the right wheel suspension.
As Mr Sunman indicated, C55's don't have a true quad exhaust. Independent-true quad exhaust --which reffers typically in the "quad" word to 4 tips in the rear-- systems have out of each header, in within other components, not restricted to, listed in no particular order: headers, catalyst converter, resonator, muffler, tips. Here are some pictures of the possible M Benz engine-exhaust configurations:

The legend for the pictures loaded is as follows:

1st (top row left):
C32 6 cylinder engine configuration

2nd (top row right):
C class 6 cylinder engine configuration

3rd (second row left):
C55 8 cylinder engine configuration

4th (second row right):
Optional 6 cylinder engine configuration

5th (third row left):
4 cylinder engine configuration

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Unfortunately, implementing the C55 exhaust system IS NOT a straight "bolt on". If you are willing to do extensive work to have your body shop cut out the spare tire whole out, patch it, then you will have space for the right muffler. C55 chasis have the rear section of the car (trunk area) re-designed with the spare tire sitting in the middle of the trunk. This in addition to smaller mufflers allows the C55 "quad" exhaust.

Mr Harris:
Can you please pictures of the underside of your vehicle to see the exhaust configuration you have installed?

Thanks

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Why do some of you want to install the C55 quad exhaust. I can only assume it is for looks, because it will surely cause a decrease in performance over the stock C32 system.

Each car's exhaust is tuned from the header to the exhaust can with certain parameters selected on target for flow characteristics, back pressure, sound, etc. A V8 engineered exhaust was not meant to be put on a V6 supercharded motor. I will assume that the other tuners that have made a split exhaust/4 tip retrofit for the C32 have taken into consideration the stock parameters, but it is quite possible that even these "systems" don't offer performance gains, only asthectics.

There are many aftermarket exhaust systems or mufflers that actually decrease performance over stock when tested on a dyno. Most owners would never know since the nice 304 stainless and great sound offer a perception of increased performance. This happens across all brands of automobiles and their owners.
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Now, looking at the diagram above, isn't the C32 exhaust a better choice?? They are both the same design except for the splitter in the rear. So, the C32 exhaust is lighter because of less components (one muffler instead of two and less piping). Also, the airflow is straight in the C32 without splitting up the air flow in the rear...thus, more efficient flow.

Quad exhaust?? Are you guys referring to true "DUAL EXHAUST"??
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now may be a good time (or not) to ask...

I want to change out my stock single-oval exhaust tip on my C320 COUPE with an AMG twin-oval exhaust tip (amg)(amg).
Does anyone have the part # and $ cost ????

I know that in the new AMG cars that have the dual quad tips, the twin-oval tips are much larger than in previous models, where the twin-oval tips seem to be able to be retrofitted into a W203 Coupe configuration...

Can anyone please help me with this. I've asked around in a few forums, and people are probably already sick of me, but once I get the twin-oval AMG tips, I'll promise not to ask anymore
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Alright, thank you everybody for posting all this great information.

with everything i've just read whats the cheapest way i can get 4 tips... i dont care if they each have individual pipes or if it just leads out from the stock exhaust. i just want my car to look cosmetically like the C55 without all the extra piping and work to my spare area!?!?

let me know the best way to go about adding another 2 tips, preferably like the other two we have
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Originally Posted by AdaMBombC32G
Alright, thank you everybody for posting all this great information.

with everything i've just read whats the cheapest way i can get 4 tips... i dont care if they each have individual pipes or if it just leads out from the stock exhaust. i just want my car to look cosmetically like the C55 without all the extra piping and work to my spare area!?!?

let me know the best way to go about adding another 2 tips, preferably like the other two we have

If you live in cold climates you will be the ricer with more steam/flow coming out the drivers side
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Originally Posted by s4iscool
If you live in cold climates you will be the ricer with more steam/flow coming out the drivers side

is that really true?
about how much does it really sacrifice power? i live in New York, btw.

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