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Any C55 members have FTP or Needswing intakes, with dyno results? I just installed a FTP, it weighs in at 11lbs, stock air box was 8ish I think. FTP uses the tiny spectra air filters. Will test the intake air temps later today to compare with the set up on my 210 E55. My custom intake weighs 5lbs with the mass airflow still attached.
On the hottest day of the year, my intake temps cruising were 12° above ambient. I know C55s don’t have the room to run the same type of filter I run. But I am sure that is a better way to make an intake for C55s.
I also have a dyno graph from the day I installed my intake. Before dyno is headers, catless and a tune.
Also 650$ for Spectra filters. If I was a C55 owner I would look into Speed43s custom factory air boxes. Just my two cents
From the looks of it, I would stick with your custom intake and figure out a way to make it fit, wouldn't be that hard. Otherwise the stock box is pretty good, even with stock filters. Personally, not a fan of the dual intake design for the prices those that make them charge, I am sure it doesn't outperform the factory AMG dual intake setups and those can be had for less than $200 all day long.
Speed43's design is proven and a great value for what it is, he is an honest guy who has done his part to learn how to modify/build an airbox for these platforms with incredible craftsmanship.
I have toyed with many ideas of possible intake setups but the most I have changed is installing AEM dryflow filters which helped a bit and will last forever. There is so much potential elsewhere to squeeze out in these vehicles that the 5-10hp an intake will produce became kind of irrelevant imo, so I focused on other mods. Eventually I'm sure I'll experiment with a custom intake system.
I feel for something NA you need to get all the power you can. My car is currently making 355whp on 93. I will probably dyno it this week on my new tune and E85
What were your baseline numbers before intake change?
A pair of headers is in all likelihood a better investment when you compare it to ftp or needswings intake kits if all you want is more power. Even just hi flow primary cats would probably gain 10+- hp. Speed43’s airbox also has proven 10 hp gain, I don’t know if the other two have claims for power gain but I know the dual AMG intakes does not outperform the stock C55 box with equivalent filters be it paper or others.
C55 AMG T with Kleemann K2 and some stuff: 414 hp and 562 Nm :-)
Or you could go the easy way by taking away the restrictive metallic grid in the inlet tube just above the MAF.
Take two small screwdrivers and jiggle the black plastic top grid away. Underneath you will find a metallic ring and
a metallic grid. Take these two away and put the black plastic top grid back on and you are good to go.
What were your baseline numbers before intake change?
A pair of headers is in all likelihood a better investment when you compare it to ftp or needswings intake kits if all you want is more power. Even just hi flow primary cats would probably gain 10+- hp. Speed43’s airbox also has proven 10 hp gain, I don’t know if the other two have claims for power gain but I know the dual AMG intakes does not outperform the stock C55 box with equivalent filters be it paper or others.
Its on the dyno pic, 330whp with headers and a tune to 348whp with the intake. Also gained 20lb ft of torque.
I just wanted this info out there, because i feel like for C55 owners the dual intakes are junk. We arent dynoing this car but I will be recording the IATs compared to me E55. I built my intake for 350$ super easy.
Ah I see, so the dyno above was for your E55 with custom intake vs. stock? Those are good number gains, was it also being tuned or just dyno'ing comparing intakes?
Ah I see, so the dyno above was for your E55 with custom intake vs. stock? Those are good number gains, was it also being tuned or just dyno'ing comparing intakes?
Also +1 for the MAF mod
It did get retuned. It leaned the car out to 13.3 AFR. It also has the elbow mod from Speed43. I haven’t cut out the square grating in the MAF. Going to try and dyno it this week with the flex fuel system I have now. My 2000 e55 made 350whp with tune, headers and e70
I just wanted to let C55 owners, know how unimpressed I was by the FTP intakes.i did like the Needswings intake on a crossfire I installed. Went in the grill like RK tunes intakes for BMWs
Awesome info on the IAT’s, I could test mine as well and report back, although I don’t think I’ll be able to replicate the Texas heat! I have the stock intake w/AEM dry flow like stated above and the MAF screen deleted.
Part of the aftermarket dual intake designs that seem inefficient to me, is the fact that they are metal and sitting right above header space on both sides. This seems like without a thermal barrier of some kind they won’t stay as cool as the stock intake just based on material/position alone.
Last edited by kaixdiego; Aug 28, 2020 at 07:56 PM.
Awesome info on the IAT’s, I could test mine as well and report back, although I don’t think I’ll be able to replicate the Texas heat! I have the stock intake w/AEM dry flow like stated above and the MAF screen deleted.
Part of the aftermarket dual intake designs that seem inefficient to me, is the fact that they are metal and sitting right above header space on both sides. This seems like without a thermal barrier of some kind they won’t stay as cool as the stock intake just based on material/position alone.
Also the filters are soooo small. Yea my car took a few mins longer to get to 140°.
Also, there’s been a few times when my intake temps were 5° above ambient.
When on the dyno, and a fan blowing into my air duct it’s dead on ambient.
Also the filters are soooo small. Yea my car took a few mins longer to get to 140°.
Also, there’s been a few times when my intake temps were 5° above ambient.
When on the dyno, and a fan blowing into my air duct it’s dead on ambient.
so your dual intake setup with spectra filters underperforms a custom single intake system? How big is the piping? And the filter? I just picked up a custom dual unit for $250 hoping to lower intake temps. Reading this kinda disheartens me. Do you know if your c55 picked up any power? 20whp is a hug gains from just upgrading your air intake system. Huge thumbs up!
so your dual intake setup with spectra filters underperforms a custom single intake system? How big is the piping? And the filter? I just picked up a custom dual unit for $250 hoping to lower intake temps. Reading this kinda disheartens me. Do you know if your c55 picked up any power? 20whp is a hug gains from just upgrading your air intake system. Huge thumbs up!
That wasnt my c55 a customers car, we didnt dyno it, But if they actually made power, FTP would so dyno graphs. I was just trying to give people good info. I have a 210 55 and you can see the dyno graph from my custom intake.
so your dual intake setup with spectra filters underperforms a custom single intake system? How big is the piping? And the filter? I just picked up a custom dual unit for $250 hoping to lower intake temps. Reading this kinda disheartens me. Do you know if your c55 picked up any power? 20whp is a hug gains from just upgrading your air intake system. Huge thumbs up!
3.5in carbon fiber, first set up was AEM filter, then a larger AFE blue filter, now its a Rotofab zl1 6in air filter and K tuned velocity stack.
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