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All depends on how Banglized it is....if the E90 looks good in M trim, it will be a big seller. E36 M3/4's out sold the two door M3 2 to 1.
I bought the C32 because there was no M3/4 (I had to have 4 doors)....so I would be interested, but it is going to cost, especially with that new V8.
I bought the C32 because there was no M3/4 (I had to have 4 doors)....so I would be interested, but it is going to cost, especially with that new V8.
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i think he meant either M3 or M4 - E90 M3 will be four-dour, while the M4 will be 2.
coupes will be even numbered (future 2,4,6,future 8), sedans odd (future 1,3,5,7)
coupes will be even numbered (future 2,4,6,future 8), sedans odd (future 1,3,5,7)
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Originally Posted by 5150_C32
All depends on how Banglized it is....if the E90 looks good in M trim, it will be a big seller. E36 M3/4's out sold the two door M3 2 to 1.
BMW only put out the 4door m3 in 98 and only sold them in north america.
I think its hard for BMW to out sell the 2 door m3s when they were made for 4 years vs the 1.5 years for the 4door.
I never once heard that there was a demand for a 4door m3 until now.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
Can you show me where you read that the 4 door m3 out sold the 2 door.
BMW only put out the 4door m3 in 98 and only sold them in north america.
I think its hard for BMW to out sell the 2 door m3s when they were made for 4 years vs the 1.5 years for the 4door.
I never once heard that there was a demand for a 4door m3 until now.
BMW only put out the 4door m3 in 98 and only sold them in north america.
I think its hard for BMW to out sell the 2 door m3s when they were made for 4 years vs the 1.5 years for the 4door.
I never once heard that there was a demand for a 4door m3 until now.
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Originally Posted by 5150_C32
All depends on how Banglized it is.
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Following the BMW press, the M4 name was dropped a long time ago. The new 3 series M car will still be called an M3. A four door version will also be offered as of recent press. Can't wait for euro delivery on this one!
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I was stating that during the years 97 and 98 the 4 door out sold the 2 door 2 to 1. It is fact....not sure where the back up is and don't have time to look it up, but suffice it to say, that owning BMW's for 8 years and running a company that makes aftermarket parts for them privies me to this information. Ok?
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Hmm, I've seen like 4 E36 4-door M3s in my life, and probably over 200 E36 2-door M3s! I live in Vancouver and we have tons of M3s rolling around here! No offence, but there is no way 4 doors outsold 2 doors! Just think about it logically~!
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**** you man. i didn't discredit you intentionally, i just doubted what you had to say. I said nothing of your character or your reputation or nationality, I merely stated that i didn't agree based on my own experiences.
you haven't brought **** to prove your claim, yet you act like a *****. I think VANCOUVER is far more affluent than ASBURN, VIRGINIA and we have many many many more nice cars than most american cities (per capita). I dont think American and Canadian car buying habits are so different so please dont be an ******* because i can't accept your ridiculous claim.
Bring some FACTS to the table. Granted I didn't bring facts, but then again, I didn't make some asinine claim, and I sure didn't take offense like a child until you proved to be a real ****. Think about it LOGICALLY. They DISCONTINUED the e36 M3 4-door. Why would they do that to a car that sells twice as many units as its 2-door co-model?
I got no beef with you but seriously, there is no reason to be a jerkoff without first substantiating your "facts." Actually, there is really no reason to be a jerkoff at all. Good day.
you haven't brought **** to prove your claim, yet you act like a *****. I think VANCOUVER is far more affluent than ASBURN, VIRGINIA and we have many many many more nice cars than most american cities (per capita). I dont think American and Canadian car buying habits are so different so please dont be an ******* because i can't accept your ridiculous claim.
Bring some FACTS to the table. Granted I didn't bring facts, but then again, I didn't make some asinine claim, and I sure didn't take offense like a child until you proved to be a real ****. Think about it LOGICALLY. They DISCONTINUED the e36 M3 4-door. Why would they do that to a car that sells twice as many units as its 2-door co-model?
I got no beef with you but seriously, there is no reason to be a jerkoff without first substantiating your "facts." Actually, there is really no reason to be a jerkoff at all. Good day.
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Originally Posted by 5150_C32
I was stating that during the years 97 and 98 the 4 door out sold the 2 door 2 to 1. It is fact....not sure where the back up is and don't have time to look it up, but suffice it to say, that owning BMW's for 8 years and running a company that makes aftermarket parts for them privies me to this information. Ok?
ECE coupe (LHD): 6,117 built from 09/95 thru 12/98
ECE coupe (RHD): 2,845 built from 11/95 thru 12/98
NA coupe (LHD): 11,793 built from 04/96 thru 04/99
ECE convertible (LHD): 1,763 built from 11/95 thru 09/99
ECE convertible (RHD): 2,107 built from 12/95 thru 09/99
US convertible manual (LHD): 2,252 built from 03/98 thru 08/99
US convertible automatic (LHD): 4,017 built from 03/98 thru 08/99
ECE sedan (LHD): 1,296 built from 11/95 thru 01/98
ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98
NA sedan manual (LHD): 4,574 built from 09/96 thru 05/98
NA sedan automatic (LHD): 4,036 built from 09/96 thru 05/98
SA sedan (RHD): 168 as Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits from 11/96 thru 04/97, 532 as complete cars from 04/97 thru 10/98
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Originally Posted by noka
Here are the sales figures for the E36-M3 for North America (I owned two in the past). Based on these numbers, and many people I know who own or owned them across the country, I would find it hard to believe the sedan outsold the coupe by a factor or 2:1, even if you factor in the automatics.
ECE coupe (LHD): 6,117 built from 09/95 thru 12/98
ECE coupe (RHD): 2,845 built from 11/95 thru 12/98
NA coupe (LHD): 11,793 built from 04/96 thru 04/99
ECE convertible (LHD): 1,763 built from 11/95 thru 09/99
ECE convertible (RHD): 2,107 built from 12/95 thru 09/99
US convertible manual (LHD): 2,252 built from 03/98 thru 08/99
US convertible automatic (LHD): 4,017 built from 03/98 thru 08/99
ECE sedan (LHD): 1,296 built from 11/95 thru 01/98
ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98
NA sedan manual (LHD): 4,574 built from 09/96 thru 05/98
NA sedan automatic (LHD): 4,036 built from 09/96 thru 05/98
SA sedan (RHD): 168 as Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits from 11/96 thru 04/97, 532 as complete cars from 04/97 thru 10/98
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ECE coupe (LHD): 6,117 built from 09/95 thru 12/98
ECE coupe (RHD): 2,845 built from 11/95 thru 12/98
NA coupe (LHD): 11,793 built from 04/96 thru 04/99
ECE convertible (LHD): 1,763 built from 11/95 thru 09/99
ECE convertible (RHD): 2,107 built from 12/95 thru 09/99
US convertible manual (LHD): 2,252 built from 03/98 thru 08/99
US convertible automatic (LHD): 4,017 built from 03/98 thru 08/99
ECE sedan (LHD): 1,296 built from 11/95 thru 01/98
ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98
NA sedan manual (LHD): 4,574 built from 09/96 thru 05/98
NA sedan automatic (LHD): 4,036 built from 09/96 thru 05/98
SA sedan (RHD): 168 as Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits from 11/96 thru 04/97, 532 as complete cars from 04/97 thru 10/98
Rgds,
Norm
We only got the 4 door m3 in NA.
Iv seen maybe 10 4door m3s in my life.
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looks like someone (99ITR_SC) needs to change the pad or take some midol....
you really should not try to read emotion into an email/post and you shouldn't take things so seriously, this is an internet bulletin board. Sounds like you are trying to defend Canada for some reason??? If you love Canada, fine, I could care less, I am not moving there anytime soon. I was referencing how many models were sent to your lovely country vs how many were sent to your fair neighbor to the south.
How many E36 M3 coupes and sedans were brought to canada? I bet it is a lot less than what came to the US. Ever think that is why you have not seen many 4 doors? hmmmmmmmm....
Again, I saw a stat that for the years 97-98 (not all years) the four door outsold the two door 2:1
Not overall sales, I know the 2 door sold more seeing that is was produced from 94 - 99.
Where is that stat? I don't know and don't have the extra time to go find it, but I did not make it up.
Try to calm down and have fun....that is what our cars are all about.
you really should not try to read emotion into an email/post and you shouldn't take things so seriously, this is an internet bulletin board. Sounds like you are trying to defend Canada for some reason??? If you love Canada, fine, I could care less, I am not moving there anytime soon. I was referencing how many models were sent to your lovely country vs how many were sent to your fair neighbor to the south.
How many E36 M3 coupes and sedans were brought to canada? I bet it is a lot less than what came to the US. Ever think that is why you have not seen many 4 doors? hmmmmmmmm....
Again, I saw a stat that for the years 97-98 (not all years) the four door outsold the two door 2:1
Not overall sales, I know the 2 door sold more seeing that is was produced from 94 - 99.
Where is that stat? I don't know and don't have the extra time to go find it, but I did not make it up.
Try to calm down and have fun....that is what our cars are all about.
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Noka,
quoting your numbers, I think the stat I read is entirely possible.
NA Coupes - 11,793
NA Sedans - 8,610
with those numbers it could be possible that in the years 97-98 the sedan out sold the coupe. Just in those two years.
the one thing I am confused on is why in the stats you posted the years only start at 96 (wheres the 94-95 NA models?). even for the euro cars they should be showing earlier than 95 (92-93). Your thoughts...
quoting your numbers, I think the stat I read is entirely possible.
NA Coupes - 11,793
NA Sedans - 8,610
with those numbers it could be possible that in the years 97-98 the sedan out sold the coupe. Just in those two years.
the one thing I am confused on is why in the stats you posted the years only start at 96 (wheres the 94-95 NA models?). even for the euro cars they should be showing earlier than 95 (92-93). Your thoughts...
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Skratch,
ECE sedan (LHD): 1,296 built from 11/95 thru 01/98
ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98
Did you miss this part?
Wrong on both accounts. The E36 M3 4 door was sold in 97 AND 98 and they were also sold in Europe.
where do you live? I see lots of M3/4's here in VA....still probably more coupes, but the four door definitely represents here.
We only got the 4 door m3 in NA.
ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98
Did you miss this part?
BMW only put out the 4door m3 in 98 and only sold them in north america.
Iv seen maybe 10 4door m3s in my life.
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Originally Posted by 5150_C32
Noka,
quoting your numbers, I think the stat I read is entirely possible.
NA Coupes - 11,793
NA Sedans - 8,610
with those numbers it could be possible that in the years 97-98 the sedan out sold the coupe. Just in those two years.
the one thing I am confused on is why in the stats you posted the years only start at 96 (wheres the 94-95 NA models?). even for the euro cars they should be showing earlier than 95 (92-93). Your thoughts...
quoting your numbers, I think the stat I read is entirely possible.
NA Coupes - 11,793
NA Sedans - 8,610
with those numbers it could be possible that in the years 97-98 the sedan out sold the coupe. Just in those two years.
the one thing I am confused on is why in the stats you posted the years only start at 96 (wheres the 94-95 NA models?). even for the euro cars they should be showing earlier than 95 (92-93). Your thoughts...
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Those figures arnt right.
There were no sedan m3s in 96.Those might be the specs for all e36's sold.
I have read more than once that the sedan "m3's" were only sold in NA.
Just for fun can you post a picture of a euro spec 4 door m3.Im pretty sure they didnt get the sedans like we didnt get the smg1 or the 321hp engine.
There were no sedan m3s in 96.Those might be the specs for all e36's sold.
I have read more than once that the sedan "m3's" were only sold in NA.
Just for fun can you post a picture of a euro spec 4 door m3.Im pretty sure they didnt get the sedans like we didnt get the smg1 or the 321hp engine.
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96 is the year they were being made, sold in 97...the numbers ARE correct.
Europe absolutely got the 4 door M3, just not as many. Look at the posted numbers from a valid website.
I can post on Bimmerforums.com and there will be multiple, if not more, posts of european owners with pics or proof of their E36 4 door M3's.
Europe absolutely got the 4 door M3, just not as many. Look at the posted numbers from a valid website.
I can post on Bimmerforums.com and there will be multiple, if not more, posts of european owners with pics or proof of their E36 4 door M3's.
