Substance

Is it possible?

If i were to buy a C43 and planning on 55 engine mod. wouldnt it be cheaper to get a C280 and a 55 motor?

I am not the expert but I think it would be not bad idea to get a 2000 C280 with touchshift. 55 engine , suspensien , bigger brakes and a complete exhaust system. I thnk the car would be better than a 99 or 98 C43 with brake and suspension mods for the same money or less.

FLYNAVY

its possible, but it would not be cheaper. C280 is not designed for a V8 and thus you would have to swap out a lot of parts. From what has been posted on here about the C43--> C55 swap, it is a pretty clean engine and ECU swap. C43's are cheaper these days anyways, so I doubt you would save any money if you had to buy all of the necissary parts for the 280. Just find a higher mileage C43 (you can probably find one for around 16k or so in decent condition) and swap a newer '55 engine in.

C43silver

considering you can use the trans for the c43 on the 55 motor I dont see how swapping the 55 motor into a c280 would be cost effective could be wrong though.

knvs

Its not cost efficent. You'll have to swap out the entire front end on the 280 and put in c43 sub frame, engine mounts, shocks, springs, brakes, tranny, ecu, wiring harness, and the list goes on. Where as if you bought a c43 and just swapped, all u need is the 5.4l engine. you can even use same ecu.

C43AMG

That Frankenstein car you are dreaming of building will surley turn into a money pit.

pshek

Knvs is right. C280 has a M112 V6 motor, tranny, ecu, etc. It won't be an easy swap like C43-->C55 . You would have to buy all the quoted parts, which can be very difficult to find and get very expensive.

benzmodz

Why stop at 55 ? There is a 600 and 65 to keep you amused.

alboogiee

this has been discused thoughly on www.club202.com if a c230/c280 soforth could be mod'd to a c55, short answer is no, money answer is yes, if you have the funding to do this yes, but why not buy a c43 and put the 55 motor in it then rebadge it c280 and trade someone your AMG body kit, i'm sure they will pay you for it!

check out club202 as you will find more in depth answers to this...

Alex

benzmodz

I wonder what changes would have to be made to convert a C55 into a C230K.

alboogiee

i am more then willing to let you have my c230k as long as you return it with that 5.4l under the hood

HLG600

Buy a C43, cheapest running one that's clean (no accidennts or chassis damage). Then do the swap. Anyway, you're replacing the drivetrain so a high mileaged C43 will be less hassle then custom fitting an AMG V8 into a 280.

Ashkan's C43

why not buy a c43 and bore/stroke it to 6.1-6.3lt and upgrade all the internals for cheaper than putting in a 5.4, because besides headers and a few small things its the same engine, so you would have at the very least a same price, much faster engine...., jeff has been talking about building a c43 engine for a very long time, read his posts, it sounds less costly than the swap, and you get more power...

alboogiee

i thought jeff bought kevin's (knvs) W202 C55...if that is the case and he still has these plans: f* it, why not turn liters to gallons...

1 liters = 0.264172051 US gallons therefore 6.3L=1.66...Gal

Vardar

How about putting a JET Engine? It might as well fly? F-18 engines are pretty cheap these days...

Ashkan's C43

all jokes aside, there is not much difference besides the bore from a 4.3 to 5.4, and mkb bores it to 6 and brabus does 6.1 or so, I figure boreing it and upgradeing internals would be cheaper than buying a new engine and swaping it in, at least from an economic standpoint, you save money and you get more power... and i am sure jeff bought the car because he got a good deal, a really good deal, and he got a premodded car...

ProjectC55

Where do you get your facts from as far as what's cheaper etc etc etc? Do you actually know how much pistons and rod's cost for these motors?

alboogiee

i still like my liters to gallons joke...

Ashkan's C43

cheaper than the cost of buying another motor and installing it, you can bash all you want, but there is no way the cost of another motor and installing the new motor is going to be cheaper than an na build, and rods could be bought for 2k(and that would be what pro race prices are), I mean don't get me wrong its cool that you have a c55 and all, but hell ask jeff, he could do it for cheaper, and unless you found a very very good deal I have not seen an e55 engine sell for less than 9k, and install i have been quoted 3k at least, so maybe you just have a really good shop whatever, i don't know, but i am getting higher costs, and have fun with your icon faces all you like, just show me a e55 motor with low miles for anything less than 9k

knvs

MINE!!! I got my motor with only 15k miles for $7k installed ($5500 motor, $1500 install.) I don't know where you're getting your prices from, but install should only be 1500-2000. It only takes two days to do the swap. Pull the old motor out, install the new mortor and reconnect everything. Jeff said that building a motor with custom pistons and rods and all that would cost quite a bit, however he knows ppl and can have custom parts made for alot less.

And yes, Jeff bought my car. He's had it for a week now. I can't wait to see hwat he does with it.

Ashkan's C43

well I suppose you're one of the lucky ones, i forget the site atm but it had a ton of listing per zip code and you just entered the part you were looking for, and all the hits i got back for a 210 55 motor were all 9k and up, normally around 10-11k for 35-55k miles i however did see one for 7k, but it had 89k+ miles on it, and I am sure if someone wanted to do a build jeff would help them out, he helped cklass out for his build and the guy who blew his turbo c220 he helped him with a build too i believe....

ProjectC55

I bought my motor for 5k 35k miles and install was 1500.00.Again you have been misinformed bud! You can't compare what Jeff would pay for custom rod's compared to what someone else would pay which would still cost more..

First off,I just built a custom 4g63 motor(EVO and DSM motor) with Crower rod's ,Ross pistons and crank for 4200.00.This is just the bottom end(4cyl), head not included,and you're going to tell me that it's going to be cheaper to build a custom M113 5.5L or 6.0 L motor.Bro you are out of your mind and need to stop reading comic books and smoking crack. I see you posting over and over in swap threads"Why don't you just build a 6.0 L motor" ?Alot of folks don't do it because it's TOO Darn Expensive man!!

Finally since you're so confident,how about a price list on the prepping of the M113 block,heads, valve train ,cams,Aftermarket pistons,rods,headers,labour,and especially the crank.You do that and list prices and you'll never hear me debate with you again on this.

V12Godspeed

CoolcarlskiC43: Have you heard if jeff might take my SL55 motor to your shop to rebuild some part... I heard he was taking it to some shop I don't know if it might be your shop

ProjectC55

LOL,No I don't have a shop.He's probably taking it to Maze shop in
bklyn were he did my install.

V12Godspeed

yes correct, that is where he mentioned he was going, thanks for clarifying.

ProjectC55

Let me know if you can bolt up the motor.If not you have an interested party here!