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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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I will scan and post the dyno's today or probably tomorow.

.......................waiting.............
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
WoW! Post your dyno's! Those are some incredible #s. Make sure and come to AMG Fest!

Mario,how was he able to post the same #'s as you with this kit?
I know it is crazy! I'm only like 8whp more. I'm thinking because my supercharger is working so hard to create that 5lbs of boost that I'm creating too much heat. Nitro's car motor and S/C is a much more efficent system. I hope after installing my Aquamist I can lower my IAT's that I can gain 20whp. Also I'm saving some money to get it tunned by a Kleemann guy I found that is willing to touch my car even though I have an HPS system. I'm guessing between the tune an Aquamist I should be able to get 30whp and I will be running 20% methonal in the mix.
I give big props to Nitro (Wes) for good numbers.
How is your car doing Carl?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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I know it is crazy! I'm only like 8whp more. I'm thinking because my supercharger is working so hard to create that 5lbs of boost that I'm creating too much heat. Nitro's car motor and S/C is a much more efficent system.
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How is his motor more efficient?It's a M113 just like yours,just a smaller bore. Perhaps you need a bigger S/C or something.Somethings not right!


My car has some minr cosmetic injuries from vandalism and i need to get my exh done.Otherwise she still runs like a monster,Thanx!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
How is his motor more efficient?It's a M113 just like yours,just a smaller bore. Perhaps you need a bigger S/C or something.Somethings not right!


My car has some minr cosmetic injuries from vandalism and i need to get my exh done.Otherwise she still runs like a monster,Thanx!
I think he meant that the MP90 blower is effeicient in spinning at Xspeed to fill the 4.3 and that it needs to spin XXspeed to fill the 5.5. The overspinning to create more boost to fill the larger bore causes the blower to heat up much faster. Maybe that's where the lose occurs?? I have no idea. The MP112 is probably the way to go with the 5.5L. I think mario should mount the bracket higher away from the wheel well to fit the MP112 and section out the hood "shaker style" so the upper discharge plate can peak through. It would be good for cooling too as the blower would be exposed to let off heat. I'm kinda joking but at the same time it would work and look scary. Actually, after talking with him tonight about cooling I think he will put me back in my "4.3L" place soon.

I believe Magnesun has charts on their website indicating which blowers are effecient for certain discplacment.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Also, my S/C pully is 2.625 and I think Mario's is closer to 2.00. It looks like a friggen quarter. That alone would mean the blower is probably spinning alot faster. I wish I new the equation to indicate RPM.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NitrogenBalance
I think he meant that the MP90 blower is effeicient in spinning at Xspeed to fill the 4.3 and that it needs to spin XXspeed to fill the 5.5. The overspinning to create more boost to fill the larger bore causes the blower to heat up much faster. Maybe that's where the lose occurs?? I have no idea. The MP112 is probably the way to go with the 5.5L. I think mario should mount the bracket higher away from the wheel well to fit the MP112 and section out the hood "shaker style" so the upper discharge plate can peak through. It would be good for cooling too as the blower would be exposed to let off heat. I'm kinda joking but at the same time it would work and look scary. Actually, after talking with him tonight about cooling I think he will put me back in my "4.3L" place soon.

I believe Magnesun has charts on their website indicating which blowers are effecient for certain discplacment.
OK good deal! however I bet your car runs like a bat outta hell! Enjoy.Hope to see ya in NJ.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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I know I could get more total power out of a Vortec, Paxton, Procharger but I would miss the crazy sound and instant off the line torque. Maybe someone will give me a free HPS 2 blower kit and I can work with my buddy who is an Authorized Maggie installer/dealer.
Yes you are right Nitro (Wes) the MP112 would be perfect for the 5.5l motor. My buddy uses the MP112 on his 6.0 C6 vette.
I can't wait for the dual Auquamist, I go today and give the guy money to order all the stuff, including a IAT guauge so that way I can take before and after intake temps.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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I know I could get more total power out of a Vortec, Paxton, Procharger but I would miss the crazy sound and instant off the line torque. Maybe someone will give me a free HPS 2 blower kit and I can work with my buddy who is an Authorized Maggie installer/dealer.
Yes you are right Nitro (Wes) the MP112 would be perfect for the 5.5l motor. My buddy uses the MP112 on his 6.0 C6 vette.
I can't wait for the dual Auquamist, I go today and give the guy money to order all the stuff, including a IAT guauge so that way I can take before and after intake temps.
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Mario,I don't know much about those S/C's that HPS uses for the HPS V1 kit but why can't you use the same MP112 that your friend uses on his C6?
I would'nt be happy to know that Nitro's getting such fantastic #'s and I'm only aking 8whp more.I'd call HPS right away! I'll refrain from buying the kit if that's the case! Call me as well Mario! Lost my 3rd cell.

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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Mario,I don't know much about those S/C's that HPS uses for the HPS V1 kit but why can't you use the same MP112 that your friend uses on his C6?
I would'nt be happy to know that Nitro's getting such fantastic #'s and I'm only aking 8whp more.I'd call HPS right away! I'll refrain from buying the kit if that's the case! Call me as well Mario! Lost my 3rd cell.
Althought not directed at me. I can answer that as the MP112 is a little bit longer. I looked at magnesuns autocad drawings a few months back and seem to remember the MP90 and MP112 sharing the same dimenions for height, width, mounting points, and intake dimensions. The length I believe is the only difference by two to three inches I think. I think it's an MP90 basically with longer rotor things. I'm going by memory on this. The HPS discharge plate would have to be made a little bit longer spred which any machine shop could do. The problem that I see is that once the pulley lines up the extra length would go all towards the fire wall. Not sure about the W210 body, I beleive it wouldn't fit due to the wheel well. Thats why I made the joke about jacking up the bracket vertically a few inches to clear the wheel well and mounting the topside of the blower out of the hood like an old school shaker setup. The $$ cost of these kits is also something to consider. It's no Kleeman/Renntech bill.

Also, if you look at the torque curve. It's maxed right out of the hole. Considering the RPM range for daily driving I really like the magnesun SC's.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
I know I could get more total power out of a Vortec, Paxton, Procharger but I would miss the crazy sound and instant off the line torque. Maybe someone will give me a free HPS 2 blower kit and I can work with my buddy who is an Authorized Maggie installer/dealer.
Yes you are right Nitro (Wes) the MP112 would be perfect for the 5.5l motor. My buddy uses the MP112 on his 6.0 C6 vette.
I can't wait for the dual Auquamist, I go today and give the guy money to order all the stuff, including a IAT guauge so that way I can take before and after intake temps.
Mario
Thanks for the idea Mario.....it looks like everyone's getting cards again for christmas
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Yes you are right Nitro (Wes) the MP112 would be perfect for the 5.5l motor. My buddy uses the MP112 on his 6.0 C6 vette.
Mario

Heres a MP112 mounted on a w210 E55 http://birdsauto.com/parts-database/...1011218550.pdf
Has anyone here heard of them? Of course for the price you are probably better off going with the tried and true Kleemann setup.....After looking closer at the pic its not actually in a W210 but they do have a kit for the E55.

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I was browsing the HPS site and came across the following:

The second-generation system is even more potent than the bolt-on before it. Highlights include:

-Magnuson Radix fifth generation MP112 Eaton supercharger

-Water-to-air intercooling system

-Peak boost up to seven pounds per square inch (psi)

-Supercharger whine significantly reduced

-Horsepower and torque gains up to 130


So are they using the MP90 or the 112 now??
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Originally Posted by ECTurboGSX
I was browsing the HPS site and came across the following:

The second-generation system is even more potent than the bolt-on before it. Highlights include:

-Magnuson Radix fifth generation MP112 Eaton supercharger

-Water-to-air intercooling system

-Peak boost up to seven pounds per square inch (psi)

-Supercharger whine significantly reduced

-Horsepower and torque gains up to 130


So are they using the MP90 or the 112 now??
Do a search on this forum and benzworld.org and you will see the Gen2 is a pile of crap. There must me over 25 lawsuits against HPS on that kit. The Gen 1 is the only one that made power with tweeking and didn't blow up motors. STAY AWAY!!!!
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i posted this in my other thread, but did we ever figure out if gains are to be made with a smaller pulley?

I will definitely have plenty of cooling to keep the efficiency up (if the heat is the limiting factor) with meth before and after and my air-water system.
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