Substance

a stock C43 runs from 0 to 60 in 5.7-5.9 seconds. and C55(w202) in 5.3-5.5 seconds.

Kleemann and renntech claims at least 1 second gain in 0-60 with their kompressors. Is it really true?

C43k can run 0-60 under 5 seconds?
C55k under 4.5 seconds?

C43K makes about 430hp

do you know how much gain for C55K?

FLYNAVY

I would not doubt that a C43 could break under 5 seconds w/ 130 extra ponies and similar torque numbers (the real key for the 0-60 run)....actually it should be able to quite easily. 5.9 seconds is very conservative for a stock C43, especially with slicks (I know they didnt do the consumer reports tests w/ those though). W/ some drag radials, the Kleemann LSD and blower, I don't think that 4.5-4.8 second range would be unreasonable. Sub 5-sec no problem w/o LSD or slicks I would also say. Can't speak for the C55

newton22

No such thing as a W202 C55.

FLYNAVY

It was not introduced into the US market, but there were a few hundred w202 C55's made towards the end of the production run. There was one reviewed in Mercedes Enthusiast in the Dec. issue last year for reference. Incredible car, but probably cheaper now to just swap in a 5.5 (or 5.4 to be exact, right?) from a 210 E55/ 208 CLK55 than trying to import one.

rlee02135

sure there is
coolcarlskiC43 has one
(its a c43 with 5.5 motor )

Substance

AMG actually made about 30 of them between 98-00(most in 00) and 6 of them were C55T. They were only sold in Germany and UK.

they had the special designo int/ext. 300km/h speedo vs. 260km/h on C43.

C55 badge and different differential ratio.

the car was really fast of the line, however most ppl found it nose heavy. probably one the reasons they built so few and discontinued it soon.

I have heard someone in the US has C55 with kompressor. and bunch of people here on the forum with C43 kompressor.

you could send your C43 to AMG in germany to C55 convertions a couple years ago they quoted 25000 euros but they dont do it anymore.

I think C55 came with parktronic as standart too.

most believes that w202 C55 could out handle w203 C55 off the line eventho MB states 5.5 second vs. 4.9 for 0-60 runs for these car. but MB is also known for conservative numbers. as w202 is considerebaly lighter than w203 C55 and they both have the same engine plant, but some people also highligts that w203 has a better transmition so that minimal power loss at the tranny.

i would take a w202 C55 anyday to a w203 C55. truely unique and rare car. needless to say its the true sleeper.

did you know there was a SL55 , SL 73, SL 60( for R129 body) and E36(w124) E50(w210) these were never imported to the US. Imo SL73 is the nicest of all SLs.

FLYNAVY

I also read somewhere that there was a very limited run of E36 w210's that came along the year before the euro-only E50 AMG. Now THAT would have to be an incredibly rare (if not anemic from a performance standpoint) bird

Chappy

Yes. It's true....I watched it run an 11.54 @ 120 a few years ago. Do a search on username "benzmac" as he built this monster.

Ashkan's C43

I believe a full k8+ c55 would make it into 10s benz mac just had blower ecu and tb I believe, can someone onfirm if he had exhaust lsd headers, I also do believe he did not had kleeman rods or cams...

schwarzwagen

i have seen these on mobile.de once and a while.

schwarzwagen

"i'm with stupid ->"

NitrogenBalance

On the dyno we got mine to lay down 342whp 370wtq at the wheels. I guess the motor would be good for probably 420hp/450tq ish.

As lame as it is I've never got my lazy *ss to the track this year. However, messing around with a friends spankin new EVO I've managed to take him up to 60 every time. The stock EVO will jump a car length every time, yet my car manages to just nose by just after 2nd gear and slowly pull away. This really doesn't mean anything other than it is possibly a tick faster than an EVO 0-60 or my buddy sucks at driving.

Chappy

There was an article in Benzo a few years ago that compared a stock CLK55 with a CLK430/Kleeman and they claimed a 0-60 of 4.9 with the CLK430K.

Faster times become a traction issure more than anything else.

newton22

My apologies, I was never aware.

Substance

[QUOTE=Chappy;1873710]There was an article in Benzo a few years ago that compared a stock CLK55 with a CLK430/Kleeman and they claimed a 0-60 of 4.9 with the CLK430K.

Faster times become a traction issure more than anything else.[/QUOTE

Isn't C43 faster than CLK430?

one more question?

How fast is Brabus C 6.1? Its 30000+usd mod. Is it worth it?

Chappy

Yes, the C43 is quicker than the CLK430, but everything changes when an aftermarket blower is added. I was using the CLK430K vs. CLK55 as an example since I'm not aware of any head-to-head comparos between a C43K and a C55.

No idea what the Brabus performance claims are.

FLYNAVY

[QUOTE=Substance;1875498]Yes, if you get them to throw in a 6-spd manual in the process

ProjectC55

C43 vs CLK430 can be a drivers race with slight edge going to C43. Slight!

Substance

I found some info on Brabus C V8(w202)

6.1L V8 32V

408Hp/446Tq

0-62 in 5.4 seconds

Top speed 180mph

C43AMG

Those numbers are very disappointing - for the money invested - damn near embarrassing.

ProjectC55

I agree 100%! Those #'s are weak for the $$$$!

Substance

Brabus engine convertions are very expensive. SL600(r129) to SL7.3S convertions is 40000 plus labor. Renntech does the same job for 27000 maybe even better (7.4L).

I guess the best way for more power is a blower. 11-14000 dollars for 420-430hp. I am not sure how much for 4.3 to 5.4 convertion, it should be less than what blower costs.

FLYNAVY

for that amount of money invested, you could probably have twice the power with a FI set-up......pretty ridiculous performance figures IMHO....I was hoping for at least a second quicker than that and above 500 Hp

Substance

Brabus C V8 for w203 uses the same engine with slightly lower HP and its 1 second quicker than w202.

6.1L V8

400hp/442TQ

0-62 : 4.5 seconds

Probably because of better tranny, better aerodynamics.

You are considering C V8 w202's acceleration too slow for todays standarts. I am sure It was pretty satisfying In mid to late 90s. Brabus C V8 was available before C43s. Just like C43 was considered really fast in late 90s but now a C350 or 335i in Mercs and BMWs standart line up is faster or equaly fast.

What would you say about 300E " Hammer " its a 120k investment and the car does only 0-60 in mid to high 5s. However in its times it would blow about anything.

ProjectC55

5.5L w202 should be faster than that Brabus car. The hammer 300e was also co-built by porsche like the 500e I believe but I could be wrong.