c43, 335i run
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sounds like airplane
how?
who knows at this point... look at my threads searching for answers and ideas about how to unlock tuning "solutions" etc. and my history with the stereo system/cosmetics.
I've only had the car a year.
My past projects haven't been in the realm of "go faster" as i'm heavily into car audio as well (obviously) but the stereo is done in this car and is absolutely captivating in a show environment sound wise. I spent 6 months testing different components and locations prior to building the stereo the way it is now and am absolutely happy with it. Look at all the wheels/tires packages i've been through... 6 sets within that year as well. Look at the winter beater i built to satiate my need to go fast while i parked the mercedes and worked on it. I have the means (since i am single and can stretch/work ot), ability, time and desire to make the car go as fast as i want within reason. My friends at the performance shop where i dyno think i should be able to get 450-500 crank hp with just the stuff i have spoken to them about AND that will be with very serious torque. My car is lighter than M3 or C63 no matter how you look at it... I'm also smart enough to know that i will not outhandle those cars nor out accelerate them from "dig" due to my traction issues. However, i don't really care. This car will be a freeway beast and that is where i drive it fast anyways. I expect to be able to frum roll with some very fast cars and surprise the heck out of anyone who isn't extremely serious from dig.
-drew
who knows at this point... look at my threads searching for answers and ideas about how to unlock tuning "solutions" etc. and my history with the stereo system/cosmetics.
I've only had the car a year.
My past projects haven't been in the realm of "go faster" as i'm heavily into car audio as well (obviously) but the stereo is done in this car and is absolutely captivating in a show environment sound wise. I spent 6 months testing different components and locations prior to building the stereo the way it is now and am absolutely happy with it. Look at all the wheels/tires packages i've been through... 6 sets within that year as well. Look at the winter beater i built to satiate my need to go fast while i parked the mercedes and worked on it. I have the means (since i am single and can stretch/work ot), ability, time and desire to make the car go as fast as i want within reason. My friends at the performance shop where i dyno think i should be able to get 450-500 crank hp with just the stuff i have spoken to them about AND that will be with very serious torque. My car is lighter than M3 or C63 no matter how you look at it... I'm also smart enough to know that i will not outhandle those cars nor out accelerate them from "dig" due to my traction issues. However, i don't really care. This car will be a freeway beast and that is where i drive it fast anyways. I expect to be able to frum roll with some very fast cars and surprise the heck out of anyone who isn't extremely serious from dig.
-drew
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sounds like airplane
nitrogenbalance- unless i blow up a motor the first "big" evolution of my car will be a new blower and reduced compression. I don't think we need that for my goals though.
-drew
-drew
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how?
who knows at this point... look at my threads searching for answers and ideas about how to unlock tuning "solutions" etc. and my history with the stereo system/cosmetics.
I've only had the car a year.
My past projects haven't been in the realm of "go faster" as i'm heavily into car audio as well (obviously) but the stereo is done in this car and is absolutely captivating in a show environment sound wise. I spent 6 months testing different components and locations prior to building the stereo the way it is now and am absolutely happy with it. Look at all the wheels/tires packages i've been through... 6 sets within that year as well. Look at the winter beater i built to satiate my need to go fast while i parked the mercedes and worked on it. I have the means (since i am single and can stretch/work ot), ability, time and desire to make the car go as fast as i want within reason. My friends at the performance shop where i dyno think i should be able to get 450-500 crank hp with just the stuff i have spoken to them about AND that will be with very serious torque. My car is lighter than M3 or C63 no matter how you look at it... I'm also smart enough to know that i will not outhandle those cars nor out accelerate them from "dig" due to my traction issues. However, i don't really care. This car will be a freeway beast and that is where i drive it fast anyways. I expect to be able to frum roll with some very fast cars and surprise the heck out of anyone who isn't extremely serious from dig.
-drew
who knows at this point... look at my threads searching for answers and ideas about how to unlock tuning "solutions" etc. and my history with the stereo system/cosmetics.
I've only had the car a year.
My past projects haven't been in the realm of "go faster" as i'm heavily into car audio as well (obviously) but the stereo is done in this car and is absolutely captivating in a show environment sound wise. I spent 6 months testing different components and locations prior to building the stereo the way it is now and am absolutely happy with it. Look at all the wheels/tires packages i've been through... 6 sets within that year as well. Look at the winter beater i built to satiate my need to go fast while i parked the mercedes and worked on it. I have the means (since i am single and can stretch/work ot), ability, time and desire to make the car go as fast as i want within reason. My friends at the performance shop where i dyno think i should be able to get 450-500 crank hp with just the stuff i have spoken to them about AND that will be with very serious torque. My car is lighter than M3 or C63 no matter how you look at it... I'm also smart enough to know that i will not outhandle those cars nor out accelerate them from "dig" due to my traction issues. However, i don't really care. This car will be a freeway beast and that is where i drive it fast anyways. I expect to be able to frum roll with some very fast cars and surprise the heck out of anyone who isn't extremely serious from dig.
-drew
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sounds like airplane
i will either be running some heavy meth or working out an air-water intercooled set-up (or maybe both)
air-water seems like it can be done fairly cheaply if i can figure out how to fit everything.
-drew
air-water seems like it can be done fairly cheaply if i can figure out how to fit everything.
-drew
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s/c 99 c43 amg
ill try to get a video of it, dont forget quarter mile run an highway runs r two totally different things , on the highway you dont have to worry about a launch and frequent track visitors know what im saying ur launch means everything at the track, maybe the kid i raced cant drive and the 335i is faster than my c43 still doesnt change the fact that i beat one. plus ive been in a couple 335 really dont feel much faster than my c43, except from a dead stop, but on the highway i feel the c43 pulls harder.
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ill try to get a video of it, dont forget quarter mile run an highway runs r two totally different things , on the highway you dont have to worry about a launch and frequent track visitors know what im saying ur launch means everything at the track, maybe the kid i raced cant drive and the 335i is faster than my c43 still doesnt change the fact that i beat one. plus ive been in a couple 335 really dont feel much faster than my c43, except from a dead stop, but on the highway i feel the c43 pulls harder.
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My neighbor just ordered one that should be here soon, so we'll have to line them up and see. If the 335i were an auto, I could see it being a race, but I doubt I'll have a chance at my neighbors, which will be a 6 speed.
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You'll have a better chance with the eclipse if it's modded.
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If the Eclipse were running, it would smoke the C43. Unfortunately, it isn't running and I think I will get rid of it before I work on it any more. I get my insane speed thrills on two wheels these days and by this time next year, I'm hoping to have a new European sports car to mod.
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ill try to get a video of it, dont forget quarter mile run an highway runs r two totally different things , on the highway you dont have to worry about a launch and frequent track visitors know what im saying ur launch means everything at the track, maybe the kid i raced cant drive and the 335i is faster than my c43 still doesnt change the fact that i beat one. plus ive been in a couple 335 really dont feel much faster than my c43, except from a dead stop, but on the highway i feel the c43 pulls harder.
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There are a lot of ways to achieve similar power curves. It is certainly possible that the 335i has a better power curve, even up top. I think the gearing of the C43 is what gives it the good highway power. If you look at the 50-70 times and stuff in that range from back in the late 90's, the C43 was doing those sprints in half the time that it took the E36 M3. I realize the M3 had 60 less horsepower and less torque than the 335i, but those numbers indicate that the C43 has a large advantage at highway speeds.
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s/c 99 c43 amg
There are a lot of ways to achieve similar power curves. It is certainly possible that the 335i has a better power curve, even up top. I think the gearing of the C43 is what gives it the good highway power. If you look at the 50-70 times and stuff in that range from back in the late 90's, the C43 was doing those sprints in half the time that it took the E36 M3. I realize the M3 had 60 less horsepower and less torque than the 335i, but those numbers indicate that the C43 has a large advantage at highway speeds.
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My bmw E36 M332i was modded fully and would eat a C43 for lunch all around!!! It ran neck and neck with a stck 335i upstairs. No way I'm telling you! No way a C43 would even be in the same league!!!
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sounds like airplane
i still disagree once the car is moving and in the correct gear
of course, it will be somewhat difficult for me to determine this in the future...
the only race i ever got in with my car when it was stock was on the freeway with a z28 late 90s camaro (which i won). I also played around a bit with my own wrx (with brother behind the wheel) and lost. I'm not much of a street racer so much
regardless i've spent a lot of time driving many different cars and the stock C43 is very fast at freeway speeds relative to all expectations.
of course, it will be somewhat difficult for me to determine this in the future...
the only race i ever got in with my car when it was stock was on the freeway with a z28 late 90s camaro (which i won). I also played around a bit with my own wrx (with brother behind the wheel) and lost. I'm not much of a street racer so much
regardless i've spent a lot of time driving many different cars and the stock C43 is very fast at freeway speeds relative to all expectations.
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my buddy raced a inifiniti G35s and lost so its not rediculously fast but it is quick. a 335 chip vs. SMG2 E46 M3 is almost dead even and thats with a chip. so i don't think its as difficult as people make it out to be. Don't underestimate these old school AMGs they always outperform what they look like on paper, W210 E55s are great example.
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s/c 99 c43 amg
what did u do to your 332 for mods because my dad had one and it was slow as ****, no offense, so u must of had alot done to keep up with a 335, i dont know y u keep under estimating the c43.
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my buddy with his e430 race the same kid with the 335 before i did and they were dead even the 335 pulled on him high third, and i **** all over my buddys e430 plenty of times. theres only one way to prove it to u guys and that is to put up a video once i get my license back on feb 20. the 335 is a very fast car dont get me wrong im not saying they are slow because they are not, but ill prove to u that the c43 from a 2nd gear roll will take the 335.
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Also E430 is a DAWG!
I even run away from my friends CLK430 with my STOCK E36 M3. Well it does have Supersprint headers and exh back now but not when we ran. That 335i u ran must be a poser. Did it have a single exh pipe on each side of the car or were they together on one side like the C43?
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my buddy raced a inifiniti G35s and lost so its not rediculously fast but it is quick. a 335 chip vs. SMG2 E46 M3 is almost dead even and thats with a chip. so i don't think its as difficult as people make it out to be. Don't underestimate these old school AMGs they always outperform what they look like on paper, W210 E55s are great example.
only one way to find out for sure (somebody setup a race)
only one way to find out for sure
(somebody setup a race)
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s/c 99 c43 amg
E36 325i(M332i) converted : has 3.2L m3 motor,Schrick cams,TMS chip,3.5" HFM,3.2L OBD2 stck exh full M3 suspension,brakes and rotors.. Plus you forget that I have a C43 but I chgd the motor and installed a 5.5l motor. My M332i ran with my C55 W202 from 1st to third gear in which my MB started pulling away. A C43 will not run anywhere near my C55 W202.
Also E430 is a DAWG! I even run away from my friends CLK430 with my STOCK E36 M3. Well it does have Supersprint headers and exh back now but not when we ran. That 335i u ran must be a poser. Did it have a single exh pipe on each side of the car or were they together on one side like the C43?
Also E430 is a DAWG!
I even run away from my friends CLK430 with my STOCK E36 M3. Well it does have Supersprint headers and exh back now but not when we ran. That 335i u ran must be a poser. Did it have a single exh pipe on each side of the car or were they together on one side like the C43?
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Per Car and Driver, September 1999
0-60:
C43 6.1
M3 6.0
5-60:
C43 6.4
M3 6.3
50-70:
C43 4.1
M3 7.1
1/4 Mile:
C43 14.6@99
M3 14.6@95
I think when you get into cars in this range, the driver has almost as much to do with the end result as the cars themselves. My neighbor who is getting the 335i is a former professional race driving instructor, so he may have the advantage in that category
0-60:
C43 6.1
M3 6.0
5-60:
C43 6.4
M3 6.3
50-70:
C43 4.1
M3 7.1
1/4 Mile:
C43 14.6@99
M3 14.6@95
I think when you get into cars in this range, the driver has almost as much to do with the end result as the cars themselves. My neighbor who is getting the 335i is a former professional race driving instructor, so he may have the advantage in that category
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my buddy raced a inifiniti G35s and lost so its not rediculously fast but it is quick. a 335 chip vs. SMG2 E46 M3 is almost dead even and thats with a chip. so i don't think its as difficult as people make it out to be. Don't underestimate these old school AMGs they always outperform what they look like on paper, W210 E55s are great example.
only one way to find out for sure (somebody setup a race)
only one way to find out for sure
(somebody setup a race)
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i know what a 335 looks like and theres no way u beat a clk430 with an e36 m3 because ive race a couple with my girls 430 and right from the line i walked him. even my friends e30 with e36 m3 motor swaped couldnt even pull away from the clk. like i said this kid jus got this 335 i know from a stop i wont have a chance from a 2nd gear roll again my c43 is right there.
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