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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:55 AM
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CARLSSON C37RS

yes there is such a car....and guess wat the powr it ran was? 340HP wat about that? if anyone has any ideas wat was done to this car, that made it gain 50 more horses, please tell...

check this out...i'm thikning of improving my exhaust a little too


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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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sounds like airplane
everything they could throw at it-

it's the shining example of why the C36 doesn't have the naturally aspirated potential some on here claim as the "sky is the limit"

that said, 340 hp is a great number and it is an awesome and rare car
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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although, makes you think why the c36 motor cant get to the 100hp/liter mark. i dont see why not, it has good construction and a solid valvetrain. honda and bmw do it N/A all the time... not as if theyre getting anywhere near the torque that MB's produce though.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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yea true..right now, i'm ot really happy on how they Y piped the exhaust in front, two pipes run from the block down and they Y into one pipe then it splits to two cats, then one resonator, and out the back....the front to me feels like a bad design, wat if i just ran one pipe to each CAT, and then just have twop pipes run all the way through to the back? would it be bad? i mean i know i will lose backc pressure for sure, of wat if i fix that ugly Y pip they did it's horrible it looks like they made a mess of the exhaust in the front
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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sounds like airplane
you will make more power with some crossing over- need an x to run true duals.

The Y set-up flows enough
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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u could stay with the Y style, just up your diameter to ~3 inch piping, maybe a lil smaller and youd be good to go. supersprint makes headers for the c36, theyre the same ones that i could have purchased for my old c280...

i think bekkers has 'em
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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ah yea nice, yea i may just do that, lol today me n my buddy were in his C36, we pulled to a light next to this dude in a 2003 honda ex V6, looked like a fast n te furious car, wing seats spoiler, decals te works, he had after market dual exhaust, pro cold air headers too, (car was LOUD) he made eye contact wit y boy, light changed he gunned, so did my boy..it was funny tho, car hung there in first second we were pulling HARD, hit about 80 and let off guy was 3 car lengths, i thikn we cudv'e gained more, moe doesnt know how to shift when using the manual shifter, he was shifting to slow, so the car lost power....if you shirt right it shifts quick with me...but yea...it was fun, gave him a thumbs up....n left...LOL anyway...so these headers? I'M VERY INTERESTED! WHERE CAN I GET TWO OF EM? ONE FOR ME N MY BUDDY
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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theyre 1800.... not quite as steep as the kleemann v8 headers for the c43's, but still kind of steep... just sell a bunch of medicinal pot or whatever you californians do for money
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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holy **** paste! I'LL GET EM!! DO'NT WORRY!! MUAHAH WISH I HAD A PIC THO
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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i'm getting an ECU tune from my dealership, with my buddy there...he states that i will get 50HP n 30TQ....hmm who knows, he did it on his c36 he sed, and i drove it, his 36 feels FAST...maybe..wat u guys think?
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06EATER
i'm getting an ECU tune from my dealership, with my buddy there...he states that i will get 50HP n 30TQ....hmm who knows, he did it on his c36 he sed, and i drove it, his 36 feels FAST...maybe..wat u guys think?

Not a chance sorry, I had a pretty agressive tune on mine and I felt stuff all difference.

Also, the 340bhp version of the C37RS motor has ITBs, I beleive that one is only around 290ish bhp.

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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ah tot is was too gud to be true...wat is ITB? so that C37 is only outputting 290?
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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ah ic so our C36 don't have ITB''s?
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The M104's are pretty responsive to intake tuning. Another member here had an M104 E320 with just a Gruppe M intake that performed freakishly well. With some BPU, you can have yourself some impressive gains with a broader, more responsive powerband:

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The OEM AMG muffler flow very well, so there is little point to modify it for power gains. For improved sound, just cut out the resonators.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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ah ic, well i deleteed my muffler and kept my reso and stock cats....i was thinking of gettin rid of the reso to tho..for better back pressure, wat u think?
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ah ic, well i deleteed my muffler and kept my reso and stock cats....i was thinking of gettin rid of the reso to tho..for better back pressure, wat u think?
Larger displacement motors often need a muffler in back to generate adequate back pressure. You can get away with it in very low displacement motors, but at 3.6L I wouldn't jump the gun just yet, and do some homework on the matter. Exhaust systems are actually more complicated than many presume, as it is exhaust velocity that makes power.

If you already deleted the muffler, I would leave the resonator (deleting it is purely for sound aural purposes, and no power gains are made). Ideally, a catalyst delete with 02 simulators to counter CEL issues will yield some noticeable gains...at the cost of failing emissions though.

Also, there is this device called an electronic cutout. At the flip of a switch, you can have either straight pipes or OEM spec exhaust, or anything in between.

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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sounds like airplane
i didn't want to waste the weight or i would have gone with cutouts

that said- on the C36 rather than a boosted 43 (ie- with tons less tq) i'd be surprised if free flowing exhaust will actually help.
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