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Old 02-07-2010, 12:42 AM
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C43 AMG & E55 AMG
now stop arguing and help your fellow member with his '' pure amg '' that was not rushed...wich is failing badly.. LOL


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funny how a c36 owner really think is car is the best in the world..
lmao

your car is too old in and out for me. + poor v6 engine

c43 is perfect in / out nuff said.

the most rush 202 amg ? are you stupid?
it was the first REAL benz-amg fully assembled at amg
urs a sold out 280 , how many times we have to say the same thing




You are an idiot.

I start this thread in hopes of help and you do this? Get your *** out of here, please.
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I have to agree in that the 36 seems to be more 'authentic' to us vintage AMG junkies then the 43, which was based on previous models when AMG was still seperate. The 36 was a fully modified engine, whereas the 43 was a swap from the 210 with added cams, tuning, etc. Don't get me wrong, its still nice but not as much went into it. Arguing it here is pointless though as BOTH cars were made by AMG and I would love to have either one and there is no misconceptions about that.
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v0ac is ignorant, like a little kid who gets his first honda and thinks its the fastest, best, most coolest car in the world, you cant talk them out of it or talk sense into them. They will defend it by contradicting themselvfes over and over ignoring cold hard facts and taking ***** stabs at things that are totally irrelevant to the base argument to avoid being proven wrong. NO ONE SAID ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, the facts are the facts. FACTS ARE FACTUAL, LOGICAL, PROVEN. Your imaginary state of mind is twisted and distorted.




OP Let us know what up with the car bro keep us posted!!!!!!! Just ignor v0ac, he'll undoubtly post back trying to boost his injured self esteem so he can brag about his wonderful C43. Id love to take a ride in it and bounce around in his slammed AMG, ride comfort = nonexistant. Not exactly what Mercedes had in mind.
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oh, '' inline 6 '' sorry big boy!

ignorant? yeah for sure,
my first car a honda?
I'm not the one claiming my car does 0-60mph in 5 sec lmao.

don't be a douche, accept the fact c43 > c36 :o)
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now you claim that a truck c36 is better then a slammed C43.

wow... what world you live in? oh yeah..your '' internet proven fact ones ''


LMAO
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Did a lot of searches on this board. Pretty much because I can isolate it to hot starts only, looks like I'm throwing money at the CPS next.
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Let us know how that works out.
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LOL you guys are hilarious....and in some type of denial all the time.
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Originally Posted by v0ac
oh, '' inline 6 '' sorry big boy!

ignorant? yeah for sure,
my first car a honda?
I'm not the one claiming my car does 0-60mph in 5 sec lmao.

don't be a douche, accept the fact c43 > c36 :o)

You are STUPID, IGNORANT, AND VERY ILLITERATE!! I NEVER said my car does 0-60 in 5 seconds. 5.78 seconds you dumb idiot. These numbers are MORE than reasonable and have been reported at tracks consistantly. No living in the internet world here buddy, living in the real world where they have a straight away, red, yellow, and green lights, with legitimate timers.

NEVER SAID YOUR FIRST CAR WAS A HONDA you dumb *** fu(king ignorant pos, you seriously cannot read and comprehend ANY GOD DAMN THING. I want you to directly qoute me where I said this, I'll give you $20 bucks, but thats right you can't ! You make up these twisted things in your head and pin them on me to make me look like the bad guy? DIRECTLY QOUTE ME you can't. I'm stating facts mixed with reasonable opinions man, trying to keep it super clean and informative for the forums and mostly for you and you just keep comming back with these three year old responses
"don't be a douche, accept the fact c43 > c36 :o) "
That right there makes you look like the troublemaker, not only that but its stupid bro just be real and respectful to everyone here, there are people with 36's and 43's here lets not put eachother down we are supposed to be a W202 AMG brotherhood!

Big boy, your right my inline six cylinders are pretty big boys bored out unlike yours.


Where do you live bro? I'm so tempted to take a drive and run a fair one with you just for the fun of it while my GF video tapes it in the passenger seat.

Remember, even after this rant, I've got nothing against you. I don't hold grudges and after all we both own W202 AMG's we need to stick together and compromise bro, this stupid back and forth (C36<C43 && C43<C36) crap is stupid and completley pointless, just opinions, and everyone has their prefrence, I respect that but dont be a dick and put other peoples stuff down that just makes you look like the lesser person, you feel me? I'm putting those springs in for you still. Just need to save up for the spring compressor and the alignment job afterwards. v0ac, when you lowered your car were they able to align it to factory specs or was it maxxed out so you have uneven tire wear? I hope I don't need camber kits.
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lol I live in MONTREAL , and sure come over.
Benzonline lives in toronto..came to see me twice, he's like a brother for me.

remember, my c43 is RENNtech'd, you stand no chance lmao.


i eat you for breakfast with my '' honda v8 engine '' LMAO
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yes i alligned it back to factory, i'm on cut H&R springs, shims number 1 all around,

it's a 4'2'' drop if i'm not mistaken..very low.

used custom camber kit for back to allign.

but then again, I don't race it anymore, streets here are terrible, i can't even take the highway, rubs in the back @ 60mph lol.

( using 265 rear tires )
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Originally Posted by v0ac
yes i alligned it back to factory, i'm on cut H&R springs, shims number 1 all around,

it's a 4'2'' drop if i'm not mistaken..very low.

used custom camber kit for back to allign.

but then again, I don't race it anymore, streets here are terrible, i can't even take the highway, rubs in the back @ 60mph lol.

( using 265 rear tires )
Awesome. Now get the fu(k out.
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how about you do proper maintenance to your car so it doesn't fail douche bag?
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It's SO ****in funny how I get a "probation" from "nlamg" (moderator of this forum) for trying to prove "another" C43 owner that his car ain't the best car in the world, when THIS GUY goes on EVERY thread and says this ****IN **** to start all kinds of problems, and to lead EVERY thread OFF-TOPIC! Why ain't NOBODY doing anything about this!!!!!??? hello moderators!?? Or maybe it's because i put down an m3 vs, an AMG and knowing "nlamg" has an M, he didn't like that??...... I Think I smell some racism/hatred going on here...
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and v0ac... i know you are doing all this **** for laugh's, Marko told me. So why don't you just STOP.
and another thing, why "increase" your engine performace if you can't even DRIVE IT!!?
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Sigh, I dont wana get banned but I have to point a few things.


I love both cars, I want a c36 as my second car really bad, I have nothing against it and Im not gona deny the fact that its just as fast as my car BUT......



Do not say stuff as "AMG didn put as much effort into the C43"


Why?? Because...and this is a fact you can find on google.....C43 was FULLY assembled by AMG. Ok Engine was lifted out of an E class but the rest of the car was fully assembled by AMG people at the factory, where they pay special attention to every little detail. C36 was a disassembled C280 ready to be modified by AMG.

A lot of you are failing to understand this
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Originally Posted by PJmak
Sigh, I dont wana get banned but I have to point a few things.


I love both cars, I want a c36 as my second car really bad, I have nothing against it and Im not gona deny the fact that its just as fast as my car BUT......



Do not say stuff as "AMG didn put as much effort into the C43"


Why?? Because...and this is a fact you can find on google.....C43 was FULLY assembled by AMG. Ok Engine was lifted out of an E class but the rest of the car was fully assembled by AMG people at the factory, where they pay special attention to every little detail. C36 was a disassembled C280 ready to be modified by AMG.

A lot of you are failing to understand this
Thank you Predrag. I love both cars but dont like the denial of the C36'ers trying to constantly "compete" with C43.....buy both and be happy people.
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guys come on! Both have just as much input from AMG, both have same suspension, its just that each has its own feel on the road. Both are almost just as fast. And both need a darn LSD to be honest.
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Very true Jay. So what springs are in the C43? I was surprised to find stock C280 ones in the 36.

OP, whats next on the diag part so we can help get your car back on the road? You said it started doing this right after it was tuned?
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Originally Posted by jumph4x
Did a lot of searches on this board. Pretty much because I can isolate it to hot starts only, looks like I'm throwing money at the CPS next.
You may be on to something there. A crank sensor is a way common failure on the later engines but with a slightly different symptom. Typically when it fails, it can A) cause the car to die out while driving or B) keep the car from starting at all by doing nothing but cranking. 9 times out of 10, It doesn't set a fault in the engine module.
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I hate everything and everyone right now. That damn Torx on the CPS just wont move. I am so close to stripping it completely.

I will at this point talk to some mechanic.
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Jesus I feel like all the C43 owners think there car is god compared to the C36, and ALL of the are thick skulled or just have serious lack of intellegence. Both are AMG cars as I have stated but my point prevails because, even though PJmak may not like it, it stands true. What makes a performance car a performance enhanced car? Suspension, braking, and ENGINE upgrades! Assembling the freaking body panels has nothing to do with AMG lacking in attention to the performance aspects of the C43. I'm sorry but no.

This is my only opinion here: "'C36'ers" happen to hold thier own against C43'ers. I respect all. I give credit where credit is due, I am not stubborn and I have stated NOTHING but facts in ALL of my posts. These other evesdropping C43 trolls have obviously NOT read any or all of my posts and after/if they do they will realize the ignorance on their part for dubbing in on an argument that should be practically noexistant due to lack of FACTS and a heapload of twisted, distorted defense from the C43 side. If ANY of you read all of my posts I feel like I tried to handle this like a gentleman and stick to things that are factual unlike the constant responses: "ohh boy this car is so much better because in my mind I belive it is" No stats, other than the fact that the body panels were assembled by AMG workers, I'm sure that adds defense to the genuine factor I was arguing about but thats not what AMG is about and assembling body panels does not do so much for performance. I think the discrepancy and the jealousy exists more from the V8 side than the I6 side due to the similarity in performance as the V8 guys want to feel big and bad. Thats my complete opiion however and anyone is free to contest that. ONE THING IS FOR CERTIAN v0ac is the complete instigator here and in my opinion is making the C43 crowd here on the forums look like ignorant bullies as a few C43'ers have tagged along to aid in his imaginary rants. Whether it be against other fellow C36'ers or not This needs to stop, seriously. It's getting way out of hand to the point of being rediculous and In all seriousness I have lost respect for quite a few throughout this pointless discussion. v0ac, I'm not really so fond of you anymore, at first I tried taking the high road but you have just really spent way to much time FOLLOWING C36'ers around and badmouthing them for no reason whatsoever. The OP was asking for help and you post that derrogitory comment that started all of this? You followed me into two threads I started and caused arguments, don't you see a pattern here? You are the idiot, causing problems, and the sad thig is your trolling around LOOKING FOR THEM. Really, really lame, and its a shame that people looking for legitimate help have to deal with this.... I'm done man no longer typing "C43" in this post it's over.

Sorry to hear about the torx giving you problems, try to soak it overnight with a penetrating oil and see if it will break loose. Or let us know the mech report. Sorry about all this crap we have to deal with from the "ignorant others"....wish they would just let us alone and then fend for themselves when all there gears start slipping. Annoyed to the max right now.
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Unpleasant to say the least. This is THE last part I ordered. Crank Position Sensor. As soon as I get it, I am handing the car over to a mechanic who is 25 years my senior, who does it professionally.

If that fails, appatula, buddy you are coming down for coffee some weekend soon. Since my last option is my ECU being screwed after I got it from Powerchip. I would really hate for that to be the case.
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What size socket are you using on it?


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