karlmb

Hello!
I got myself a 1994 AMG C36 with no ASR.
The tyres are getting warm and I desperately need a limited slip differential.
I don't want the ASR because of the limited use of it in higher speeds.
I have heard that AMG sells a real limited slip (centrifugal controlled, no electronics).
My quesion is how I can find such a diff and what the partnumber is.
The Swedish dealers know very litttle about AMG so please help me out.

I know that there are 2 different gear ratios to this car, 2.85:1 and 2,87:1 but not if this means LSD or not.

I have a partnumber :0031361 but the seller (wrecker) can't tell if this diff is LSD or not.

Is there another way of telling if you see a LSD or normal diff?

Thanks for any help in this matter.

steve s

c36 came in 94? europe yeah?

it should have a limited diff...

karlmb

Yeah, made in may 1994.
LSD was an option some say, others say that there where only the option of ASR or ASD.
Can you really cope with a Volvo when you have the C36..?
I have worked at engine development at Volvo Car Corp..

Regards,
karlmb

steve s

haha...the engine's not too bad, pumping out more hp than the c36 (after mods of course). it's the ride that is a pain in the ***. nothing like the c36. heck, running high-14 quarter miles aint bad for a volvo.

karlmb

Yes, you should know that the Volvo engine is prepared for diesel operation too, thats why you can set the boost pressure to whatever you want..
You could transplant the engine to a 960 with individual rear wheel drive?
To be able to turn?

steve s

too bad no diesels in america for volvo (other than them truckers). i think the max power/psi u'd wanna go is about 300hp/18psi b4 the engine starts to break down. heard a few people bent their rods cause the boost was too high. as for the 960...i'm sure u can. but...i'd much rather get a v8 sourced from a mustang that's supposedly an easy drop-in. nothing beats displacement, plus, ford mustang v8 are everywhere. notables who have done this is paul newman and dave letterman, from converse engineering in maine

karlmb

Well, there is always the american alternative...
But, why have a Volvo in that case.
Onestly spoken: If you go european, you should stick to engine from the same manufacturer...
They have now a production S60R with 300 hp rated so there should be some more in it before you bent something.

steve s

yeah...the engine has been strengthened numerous times since it first came out... the new one is 2.5L with kkk turbo and two intercoolers...the one i got is onlye 2.3L with a mitsu turbo and one intercooler. i'd luv to have a suspension like the 4c and the guages just look great...



btw...did u find out if ur car has limited slip?

karlmb

Well, there is always the american alternative...
But, why have a Volvo in that case.
Onestly spoken: If you go european, you should stick to engine from the same manufacturer...
They have now a production S60R with 300 hp rated so there should be some more in it before you bent something.

karlmb

Yes, I'm 100% sure that there is no LSD...
I have contact with MKB and Väth in Germany which says they can make it but no cost figures yet.

I agree, the dials in the -R Volvos are very cool with that blue colour.
Volvo have now very good styling/design and only 2 major problems: Too much Ford and too little rear wheel drive...

karlmb

Btw, I work now at the company which makes the leather covered AIRBags! And all most other AB for cars too, Autoliv.

M104-AMG

Find yourself a W201 190E-16V from 1986-1989. They came with either a 3.07 or 3.27 limited-slip diff. You will need to interchange your stock diff's rear-cover, and have a new driveshaft made. Fill with SWEPCO 80W-140 gear oil (much thicker than standard 80W-90 to accept the shock/torque loads).

You should be able to complete this for under $900.

:-) neil
1988 360TE AMG (W124 wagon stuffed with 1995 C36 engine & tranny, and 3.07 limited-slip)
1993 500E

karlmb

OK, but the 2.3 16 are not so common.
Anyway, one problem is that I have the 1994 4-speed transmission so my gear ratio is 2.85:1.
But maybe it is possible to switch over the gears? Or the LSD interior?

Regards,
karlmb

steve s

hey, ever thought of getting the 5sp from the 97 model? u'd have to switch over the me2 engine management computer.... just a thought (makes me feel lousy when i only have 4 gears when it really needs 5...4th gear cruising is just a little drony/buzzy..like someone's snoring)

M104-AMG

You'll spend more switching over gearsets. I just picked up a 3.07 and 3.27 limited-slip from a 190E-16V for about $300 each on ebay a year ago.

It works well with the 4-speed, it's what I have as well.

:-) neil

karlmb

Yes switching will mean work but I have my contacts at Volvo Cars..
A must is then ofcourse that the parts are fitting between a 2.3-16 and a AMG C36 diff. (It is a W124 diff, I have noticed).

steve s

hmm...i was under the impression the c36 got it's rear differential from the w210

karlmb

Maybe that's also possible because to my car there are two alternative part numbers, both without LSD but either 2.85:1 (mine) or 2.87:1.