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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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My H-Balancer begins to fu-- up!

Just noticed today that my HB damper is going to hell!
my car has less than 60,000 miles on the clock.

the rubber on one side is starting to bulge out, meaning it will eventually break one day?

how long will it take from rubber starting to bulge out from the shell until it's a total break?
is it a must change at once?

how long will it take to swap this part if I leave the car to a skilled
MB-mechanic?
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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is it a good thing to swap the crankshaft seal when the bolt and the HB damper is removed?
To avoid future front crankshaft leaks?
Is this the correct parts number for the front crankshaft seal?
02 399 784 47

here's the link of the above part
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/ima...0239978447.jpg

is it enuff to change the HB damper, bolt, front crankshaft seal?
maybe the belt tensioner, multirib belt and the idler pulley as well?

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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did you already have the HB replaced due to the recall?
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
did you already have the HB replaced due to the recall?
Us stuupeeeeeeeed juropeans are not that fortunate when it comes to
MB ownersship factory recalls!
This recall was never issued in europe??
WTF?
I will call the stealership tomorrow and ask how much they will rip me off?

I have highlighted the part on my HB damper.
It is not a big damage yet?

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kowalski
Us stuupeeeeeeeed juropeans are not that fortunate when it comes to
MB ownersship factory recalls!
This recall was never issued in europe??
WTF?
I will call the stealership tomorrow and ask how much they will rip me off?

I have highlighted the part on my HB damper.
It is not a big damage yet?
Hmmmmm.... That's really odd. You would think that europe would get the first news of the recall seeing that is where the cars are designed and made. I can assure the HB had a recall issued as it was shredding up and DESTROYING other items in the engine bay, I suggest you question about the recall. Either way get it fixed immediately as you run the risk of damaging something REALLY expensive.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
Hmmmmm.... That's really odd. You would think that europe would get the first news of the recall seeing that is where the cars are designed and made. I can assure the HB had a recall issued as it was shredding up and DESTROYING other items in the engine bay, I suggest you question about the recall. Either way get it fixed immediately as you run the risk of damaging something REALLY expensive.
I guess this part started to f-ck up this summer?
I didn't notice this last year in 2009!
I don't notice any vibrations yet I guess, or the alternator warning light in the cluster haven't yet light up when this part starting go bad.

I guess no recalls in europe?
the inner shellcase gets rusty and ugly over time and the rubber detoriates from engine heat, so I guess this part is a wear n tear part?
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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got mine done at the dealer last year - previous owner didn't get it done - no cost took a day. go see the dealer!!
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IMO to avoid possible expensive problems if the HB auto destructs itself and get it checked by somebody who knows what to do
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve155
got mine done at the dealer last year - previous owner didn't get it done - no cost took a day. go see the dealer!!
how much is needed to take the engine apart to access the frikkin' part?
How many hrs of work?
is it enuff to lift the car on the lift and change the part from underneath?

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
IMO to avoid possible expensive problems if the HB auto destructs itself and get it checked by somebody who knows what to do
if yours isn't changed this will happen to u 2!
how many in europe had this part changed?
in US almost all c43's had this part changed!
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kowalski
if yours isn't changed this will happen to u 2!
how many in europe had this part changed?
in US almost all c43's had this part changed!
Yup, I had mine checked and it was confirmed that it had been changed by the previous owner due to recall. Is your local dealership telling you there is no recall on the HB???
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
Yup, I had mine checked and it was confirmed that it had been changed by the previous owner due to recall. Is your local dealership telling you there is no recall on the HB???
local dealership in sweden knows jack crap!
they have never issued a recall for HB in europe!
I have to call the dealer tomorrow and ask.

they even say no problems with those 722.631 transmissions!
They say US transmissions are weaker and therefore break??????????????
Damn Fuc-ers!
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kowalski
local dealership in sweden knows jack crap!
they have never issued a recall for HB in europe!
I have to call the dealer tomorrow and ask.

they even say no problems with those 722.631 transmissions!
They say US transmissions are weaker and therefore break??????????????
Damn Fuc-ers!
I was unaware they used different trannys in the Euro vs the US
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
I was unaware they used different trannys in the Euro vs the US
i asked this question many years ago and I was told, no problemas gringo!
transmission is of heavy duty on your car, don't worry be happy instead owning such a monster.
damn fuc-ers!
I have seen german websites for carsales where c43 being sold.
ATG means AUSTAUSCH GETRIEBE: Transmission changed
Swede dealer never heard about transfailure on a c43 before?
mine isn't or was broken, I was only curious about the info from reading scary stories on MB-forums.

Info is good to know for future references of what might happen or not happen!

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I think it can be done from under the car, but you need a good socket and a very long lever bar to undo the nut. If no oil moisture seeping around the end of the crankshaft, I wouldn't change the seal IMO
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
I think it can be done from under the car, but you need a good socket and a very long lever bar to undo the nut. If no oil moisture seeping around the end of the crankshaft, I wouldn't change the seal IMO
is it difficult to pluck out the crankshaft seal?
changing for a new one is merely to prevent future leaks!

called the dealership today, NO recalls at all!
I have to fork out money from my own pocket.
Scheize verdamt!
I äm waiting for a phonecall to know how much it will cost me to replace the damn part.
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instead of asking your local dealer who may know nothing about a recall, have you tried getting in contact with the Swedish official MB importer? I did here with mine and got a rapid and very complete reply to certain questions I had.
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If this goes it could kick the **** out of everything around it, fan, radiator, oil pan, etc... I bought my car with the replaced recall pulley plus damage. Luxury Motors did a great job at JB welding and cleaning my upper oil pan as if nothing happend. It was about a grand to fix. Strange how they were as surprised as me.

I wouldn't be too comfortable doing it myself, the pulley that is.
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The some of the early M112/113 vibration dampers were prone to failure - not just the C43.

Have it changed immediately before it grinds into the front of the upper oil pan and the timing case. Tools required are a 17 mm hex socket driver and a special wrench to hold the damper (which prevents the crankshaft from turning when you loosen and/or re-torque the bolt). DO NOT hold the crankshaft at the flywheel on these engines. The torque is very high - I can't remember exactly but I think it is about 275 foot/pounds.

It is not a difficult job. They may have to pull the radiator for access. That job is fairly simple on the W202.

Find someone who knows what they are doing!!!!!
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Originally Posted by vinceC
The some of the early M112/113 vibration dampers were prone to failure - not just the C43.

Have it changed immediately before it grinds into the front of the upper oil pan and the timing case. Tools required are a 17 mm hex socket driver and a special wrench to hold the damper (which prevents the crankshaft from turning when you loosen and/or re-torque the bolt). DO NOT hold the crankshaft at the flywheel on these engines. The torque is very high - I can't remember exactly but I think it is about 275 foot/pounds.

It is not a difficult job. They may have to pull the radiator for access. That job is fairly simple on the W202.

Find someone who knows what they are doing!!!!!
well I am not going to leave the car at the dealer!
I will take it to an MB specialist who will fix the problem.
He told me not to mess with the crankshaft seal, to messy with oil.
If the part ain't broken leave it the way it is, I was told.
So a new HB damper, belt idler pulley, belt tensioner and a new thermostat will be put on my car.
So this week will be a qiuet and peacefull week without driving my car.
On Monday next week I will take the car to my mechanic, hopefully by the next week it will be fixed?

I know it's tight like a bunghole in the engine bay on our C43's, so can't a mechanic take out and put the new HB damper from the underneath?
If the radiator is removed then I need to put new coolant in the coolant system?
Which is good coz I bought new antifreez recently.

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