cm60k

I think W208 CLK55/W210 E55 are direct bolt-on, but W163 ML55/W220 S55 need to replace their oil pan,,

i hope i'm not mistaken..!??!

ZAYED,,

blackbenzz

Yes.
Yes. I haven't looked at 210 E55 to answer definitively, but why not just transfer your stuff over if they are different.

KJI3jflarryfe93

didn't some people just take the wireloom, throttlebody, starter, alternator from c43amg and put these parts on E55 engine.
then engine being fitted in the car as it is?

maybe oilpan was swapped between engines if E55 oilpan touched the swaybar?

did ML55 have different design for oilpump and sump compared between ML55 an E55 engines?
maybe E55 engine has same type parts like c43?

blackbenzz

Like I said, I don't have experience with the 210 E55 motor but I can tell you the W211 has different oil pan as well as oil pump. Depending on the chassis the pan is altered and therefore there are different oil pump configurations. The 211 into a 202 or 208 requires a hybrid oil pump. I have a 211 E55 motor in my 208 right now

ECTurboGSX

If you have access to the EPC, it is pretty easy to figure out. I can verify that the W220 S55 engine does require an oil pump and oil pan swap. Would not be surprised if the ML55 does too, but I don't know for sure.

popey24

W208/W210 are plug and Play.
All others have Mc Pherson front axle and so they have different oil pan with deep area infront and rear of the axle. For that the pump is fittet with double inlet. But C43 pump and oil pan are plug and Play again.
For W209 (and maybe all others with Mc Pherson) engine I can tell you it has only water inlet on the engine head. Water outlet that is connected to the heating system is closed with a blind plug. I don't know how heating system and colling of the engine works an that engine, because if there is only inlet without outlet, there is no circulatation, but to make it working for C43 you Need to drill out the blind plug and replace with a hose fitting (MB spare part).
Normally you should find all these information in this thread already.

PJmak

Thanks for input guys.

For those who did a 5.4 swap, what was the mileage on the 5.4 when you got it and what did you change on it?

cm60k

Swapping 4.3 to 5.4 "6" times, only once change the oil pan when we get Engine from W220 S55, they all between 110,000 to 160,000...

ZAYED,,

PJmak

Dang 6 times?

Im looking at two motors. One is 113k and the other is 135k. The 113k one has a oil filter housing leak as well as another oil leak from the front. Im not so worried because these are cheap easy fixes but it tells me the owner didnt care much to fix them which tells me they didnt take good care of their engine. Also the oil filter is a cheap chinese one. Should i be concerned?

the 135k one tested out perfect and the guy says it was out of a well cared for amg

Im looking to purchase an engine this weekend probably

popey24

My engine had 550km = 340 miles, never installed in a car.

PJmak

Picked this up today. Excited

friends c36 in the back getting converted to a six speed too

Pagz

Congrats on the 5.4 man!

If you weren't aware the bolts holding the engine mount arms to the block are one use torque to yield,I was surprised..

Wouldn't mind a few pics of the C36 6 speed install!

cm60k

Good move MaN..,

just drop the oil pan, the rest will SMILE...

ZAYED,,

KJI3jflarryfe93

what year is your 5.4L engine?

what kind of cetnik mods are you planning to do to with this engine?

PJmak

Its funny you mention the engine mount arms because one of them is missing a bolt.

Btw this motor is from a 2002 ml55 and its got 113k. Its the best i could find in my area. I had to go for it coz my 4.3 is ticking so bad and i think even the timing chain is grinding

For now i cant do any extra mods but eventually id love to try and see if a c63 muffler can be mounted before i chip tune the car

PJmak

Ill post pics and vids of finished cars. My friend is doing both conversions so itll be another week at least till they are both done

KJI3jflarryfe93

do a write up on everything you experience with this modification, good and bad stuff.

koliko si dao za motor?

PJmak

Will do

Hiljadu dvesto.....1200

KJI3jflarryfe93

hajde s srecom i sve najbolje s promena za drugi motor
big ***** AMG

PJmak

Hvala brate

PJmak

Replacing the following parts, just recieved most of them

-valve cover gaskets
-oil cooler gaskets
-rear main seal
-water pump
-thermostat
-sparkplugs
-headers gaskets

KJI3jflarryfe93

are you fitting HQ branded parts?
Febi/Bilstein made in China is not good anymore

don't fogget to check belt tensioner, idler pulley and harmonic balancer.
these parts creates nasty damage if and when they break down

are you replacing timing chain?

PJmak

Oh yea forgot to add idler pulley, the rest are fine. Timing chain im not doing. Is it recommended?

All parts are oem brands

KJI3jflarryfe93

nemoj da si kupio Meyle delove.
to je sranje i nekvalitetno!

PJmak

Oem or nothing my man