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Old 11-12-2014, 10:52 PM
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Oh yea forgot to add idler pulley, the rest are fine. Timing chain im not doing. Is it recommended?

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Replace the chain rails are important during age, prefer to go with metal idler pulley instead of scary plastic...

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Replace the chain rails are important during age, prefer to go with metal idler pulley instead of scary plastic...

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Whats the cost for parts when replacing the timing chain rails?
Old 11-13-2014, 04:36 AM
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Can't tell that clearly, it's for sure depend of locally shops labor...

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So how much power does this motor put out with the stock c43 ecu? Not tuned...

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if it stock, should be between 345hp>>362hp, depend of Engine/gearbox health,,

it can reach 380hp>>400hp if it modified, without turbo or supercharger...

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Old 11-15-2014, 03:24 PM
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05 c55 silver, 98 Imperial Red C43
With a ML motor, should i reflash the ecu or just use it as it is. Plug it all together and turn the key over basically...
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Is this Engine from early or late ML55 model...?

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You have to put C43 Engine harness/TB into ML Engine, and using C43 ECU, it will fire-up perfectly...

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Originally Posted by cm60k
You have to put C43 Engine harness/TB into ML Engine, and using C43 ECU, it will fire-up perfectly...

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hey bro
the ecu you're talking about, is it the one inside the plastic black box in the engine bay?
you don't don't touch that ecu, just leave it the way it is hooked up to the new engine?
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Sure bro,

It's the main ECU/MSG, in the module CAN box,

C43 '55' swap thread-c43-ecu-1.jpg

just leave it as it is,,

of course need to reset/adapt the whole system after Engine swap...

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What do you mean reset the whole system? What procedure is this?
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unplug the battery for an extended amount of time 4+ hours
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Originally Posted by PJmak
What do you mean reset the whole system? What procedure is this?
After swap everything, you have to use STAR/SDS and check if any fault present, reset all system to see if everything compatible,,

don't use any other device, STAR/SDS is the best to complete this job properly...

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zayed

the intake manifold on c43 engine is it the same size and partsnumber on e55 engine?
SAABO's c43 engine transplant was not without headache when he had trouble with his e55 engine and it turned out it was the intake manifold which was faulty.
are both engine manifolds the same?

it's good to know if they can be swapped over?
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Dennis,

All M113 intakes are the same, no difference,

as i remember; vince opened his intake to reseal it, then problem persists, for that he replace it...

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Dennis,

All M113 intakes are the same, no difference,

as i remember; vince opened his intake to reseal it, then problem persists, for that he replace it...

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you have always the correct answers brother, that's great
thanks bro

what kind of faulty codes could appear if ecu is not reset by star after engine being transplanted?
Old 11-16-2014, 11:31 AM
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AnyTime bro.,

ECU may catch some faulty fuel/air mix., via E-prom/RON or via O2 sensors, and save it to the data/memory, should to see first what kind of codes will appears...

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Originally Posted by cm60k
AnyTime bro.,

ECU may catch some faulty fuel/air mix., via E-prom/RON or via O2 sensors, and save it to the data/memory, should to see first what kind of codes will appears...

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so best thing to do is: install engine, start car, connect STAR to ecu, check codes, reset possible codes and finally let ecu re-learn the new engine by driving the car for few hundred miles?
this is what to do, step by step?
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Excellent, this is the CORRECT way...

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Zayed have you ever dynoed your car?
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Yeah, as remember; almost 4 years ago, 362hp>>371kw, hope i'm not wrong..!!

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