Suspension for C43
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Interesting reading 
My conclusion would be that as the w202 becomes older and spare parts dwindle away, it may be worth looking around in newer models for replacements 
Worth getting access to MB parts electronic catalogue then
My conclusion would be that as the w202 becomes older and spare parts dwindle away, it may be worth looking around in newer models for replacements Worth getting access to MB parts electronic catalogue then
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I read some where that the speedy benz camber kit pulls the bottom of the tire in instead of pushing the top of the tire out to remove negative camber, is this true? If so might this be a way to fit a larger rear tire without rubbing? I am debating whether to go with the speedy benz camber arms or the MB arts camber arms, I was leaning towards the MB arts after reading the write up but when I ran across the thread talking about speedy benz pulling in the bottom of the tire instead of pushing out the top I was intrigued as I am running 265's in the rear and don't want to rub.
Can anyone shed some light on this subject?
Can anyone shed some light on this subject?
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Can you elaborate a bit? Which lower arm, the main control arm? Not the camber arm itself?
I took the attached image from Germanparts.ca
The SpeedyBenz/MBArts arms replace item -4 in the photo, the camber arm. I figured the KMac rear kit would just replace the rubber bushings in this item?
I have a set of SpeedyBenz's camber arms, but I put a KMac kit up front and that replaced both bushings on the front lower control arm.
I took the attached image from Germanparts.ca
The SpeedyBenz/MBArts arms replace item -4 in the photo, the camber arm. I figured the KMac rear kit would just replace the rubber bushings in this item?
I have a set of SpeedyBenz's camber arms, but I put a KMac kit up front and that replaced both bushings on the front lower control arm.
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Mine with #1's all the way around and its really low. Doesn't rub but with 18x9.5 in the rear will rub a little if you go over dips at highway speeds but not much. Before I screwed up my front tie rod the front didn't ever rub at all and now just the front drivers side does, due to the loose end. I think it looks great but I almost like how clean the lines are with the #4's all around. Hmm.
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Yes, the K-Mac kit's main bush replaces the rubber bush at the inner end of the main lower control arm (-4)... and also replaces the bush in the toe control arm to give it twice the factory adjustment.
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Just an FYI, there are a couple recent ads in the suspension and braking classified forums for W208 CLK Bilstein Sports - I used these on my W202 no problem. Grab them!
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I am ordering my MB Arts rear adjustable camber arms TODAY!!! I am going to stop by the MB dealership and pick up the #5 and #4 pads for the front and rear. Then all I have to do is install everything and get an alignment Be prepared for pics to come soon, I am a little busy this weekend as it is my wifes birthday but I should have them installed within the next 2 weeks or so 
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
Be prepared for pics to come soon, I am a little busy this weekend as it is my wifes birthday but I should have them installed within the next 2 weeks or so I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
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I am ordering my MB Arts rear adjustable camber arms TODAY!!! I am going to stop by the MB dealership and pick up the #5 and #4 pads for the front and rear. Then all I have to do is install everything and get an alignment Be prepared for pics to come soon, I am a little busy this weekend as it is my wifes birthday but I should have them installed within the next 2 weeks or so I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
Be prepared for pics to come soon, I am a little busy this weekend as it is my wifes birthday but I should have them installed within the next 2 weeks or so I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!ORDERED!!!!
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Nice! It will be nice to compare the two (Speedybenz and MB Arts)
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UPDATE:
MB ARTS CAMBER ARMS HAVE ARRIVED!!!! The damn box was too big to fit in my mail box so I have to pick them up from the post office. I will post pics when I get home.
MB ARTS CAMBER ARMS HAVE ARRIVED!!!! The damn box was too big to fit in my mail box so I have to pick them up from the post office. I will post pics when I get home.
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please let me know if they are heavy and how much they weight if you have a scale?
Check your scale if it has KG = kilogram option.
How long are these camber arms, let me know in CM?
Did you get free shipping when you bought them?
Do you know if there are replacement parts (washers or the bushing adapter) for these camber arms when they go bad?
What's the difference between silver and black color anodised arms, is it the rust protection which is better on the black camber arm?
Post some hot pictures!
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yo bro.
please let me know if they are heavy and how much they weight if you have a scale?
Check your scale if it has KG = kilogram option.
How long are these camber arms, let me know in CM?
Did you get free shipping when you bought them?
Do you know if there are replacement parts (washers or the bushing adapter) for these camber arms when they go bad?
What's the difference between silver and black color anodised arms, is it the rust protection which is better on the black camber arm?
Post some hot pictures!
please let me know if they are heavy and how much they weight if you have a scale?
Check your scale if it has KG = kilogram option.
How long are these camber arms, let me know in CM?
Did you get free shipping when you bought them?
Do you know if there are replacement parts (washers or the bushing adapter) for these camber arms when they go bad?
What's the difference between silver and black color anodised arms, is it the rust protection which is better on the black camber arm?
Post some hot pictures!
Shipping was included in the price ($325). Here is a detailed description of the camber arms:
MB Arts Adjustable rear camber arms are made out of 1" diameter 7075 aircraft aluminum with QA-1 chromoly rod ends. The rod ends have a Teflon/Kevlar self lubricating race, hard chrome plated, heat treated alloy steel. The rod ends radial static load rating is 17955 lbs. and the camber arms have 74,000-78,000 psi tensile strength with a Yield strength of 63,000-69,000 psi. The MB Arts adjustable rear camber 7075 aircraft aluminum arms are lighter and much stronger than the 2 piece factory stamped steel units. Another advantage is that the MB Arts camber arms will last many years before having to replace the rod ends unlike the factories rubber bushings that will crack and wearout causing you to buy the entire factory arm again.
These arms are designed to fix the extreme camber problems Mercedes have when they are lowered. The arms can be extended as much as 1 3/8" to get the rear tires back to their original vertical position putting more of the tires surface area on the road for safer wet and dry driving. This will save your rear tires from wearing out excessively on the inner most part of the tire near the suspension,which will save thousands of dollars in tires over the life of your vehicle. For those of you who do spirited driving the adjustable arms will give a more precise feel to your rear suspension since you will no longer have the slop that the factory rubber bushing have.
Currently they only offer the polished aluminum (which usually costs more) as a free upgrade. I will post pics as soon as I get home.
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yeah, we are strange and weird peepol! 
that's why we have the best cars made in europe and you jankiees love imports am I rite?
Are the polished arms more costly?
Didn't know dat?
Did you get any forum discount?
$325 dollars including shipping, whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaah man!
Shipping to europe must cost more?
I hope they are worth the monie?
Did you get them of Ebay?
that's why we have the best cars made in europe and you jankiees love imports am I rite?
Are the polished arms more costly?
Didn't know dat?
Did you get any forum discount?
$325 dollars including shipping, whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaah man!
Shipping to europe must cost more?
I hope they are worth the monie?
Did you get them of Ebay?
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yeah, we are strange and weird peepol!
that's why we have the best cars made in europe and you jankiees love imports am I rite?
Are the polished arms more costly?
Didn't know dat?
Did you get any forum discount?
$325 dollars including shipping, whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaah man!
Shipping to europe must cost more?
I hope they are worth the monie?
Did you get them of Ebay?
that's why we have the best cars made in europe and you jankiees love imports am I rite?
Are the polished arms more costly?
Didn't know dat?
Did you get any forum discount?
$325 dollars including shipping, whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaah man!
Shipping to europe must cost more?
I hope they are worth the monie?
Did you get them of Ebay?
2.) No I didn't get a forum discount (You would think we would)
3.) $325 had the shipping INCLUDED (I paid $325 total and they sent them through the mail so I am unsure what the cost would be to Europe)
4.) I hope they are worth the money as well but if they are anything like the write up I just posted I'm sure they will be. (Speedy Benz's camber arms cost around the same price and the K-MAC Camber kit costs more with shipping, K-MAC ships from Australia)
5.) I got them directly through MB Arts (PM GLK4MATIC he is the man to contact for MB Arts items)
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1.) Yes the polished arms cost more
2.) No I didn't get a forum discount (You would think we would)
3.) $325 had the shipping INCLUDED (I paid $325 total and they sent them through the mail so I am unsure what the cost would be to Europe)
4.) I hope they are worth the money as well but if they are anything like the write up I just posted I'm sure they will be. (Speedy Benz's camber arms cost around the same price and the K-MAC Camber kit costs more with shipping, K-MAC ships from Australia)
5.) I got them directly through MB Arts (PM GLK4MATIC he is the man to contact for MB Arts items)
2.) No I didn't get a forum discount (You would think we would)
3.) $325 had the shipping INCLUDED (I paid $325 total and they sent them through the mail so I am unsure what the cost would be to Europe)
4.) I hope they are worth the money as well but if they are anything like the write up I just posted I'm sure they will be. (Speedy Benz's camber arms cost around the same price and the K-MAC Camber kit costs more with shipping, K-MAC ships from Australia)
5.) I got them directly through MB Arts (PM GLK4MATIC he is the man to contact for MB Arts items)
did you email him through mbforum?
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1.) Yes the polished arms cost more
2.) No I didn't get a forum discount (You would think we would)
3.) $325 had the shipping INCLUDED (I paid $325 total and they sent them through the mail so I am unsure what the cost would be to Europe)
4.) I hope they are worth the money as well but if they are anything like the write up I just posted I'm sure they will be. (Speedy Benz's camber arms cost around the same price and the K-MAC Camber kit costs more with shipping, K-MAC ships from Australia)
5.) I got them directly through MB Arts (PM GLK4MATIC he is the man to contact for MB Arts items)
2.) No I didn't get a forum discount (You would think we would)
3.) $325 had the shipping INCLUDED (I paid $325 total and they sent them through the mail so I am unsure what the cost would be to Europe)
4.) I hope they are worth the money as well but if they are anything like the write up I just posted I'm sure they will be. (Speedy Benz's camber arms cost around the same price and the K-MAC Camber kit costs more with shipping, K-MAC ships from Australia)
5.) I got them directly through MB Arts (PM GLK4MATIC he is the man to contact for MB Arts items)
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whoaaaaaaaaaah
American supplied vogtland springs, how much kilos (KG) do they handle each spring?
euro c43's are heavier than US cars becouse of more factory options.
Are they 970 kg each spring up front and 1150kg each springs rear?
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damn metric system, makes me think unlogical!
whoaaaaaaaaaah
American supplied vogtland springs, how much kilos (KG) do they handle each spring?
euro c43's are heavier than US cars becouse of more factory options.
Are they 970 kg each spring up front and 1150kg each springs rear?
whoaaaaaaaaaah
American supplied vogtland springs, how much kilos (KG) do they handle each spring?
euro c43's are heavier than US cars becouse of more factory options.
Are they 970 kg each spring up front and 1150kg each springs rear?
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there should be any info of how many kg front and rears handle.
I emailed Vogtland shop where you bought your springs from and they don't reply to me those buggers!
can you ask them what's the difference between euro and US C43's?
And why these springs are not recommended for european c43's?
where are your pictures of your new drumsticks?
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if you still have your Voggie box can you check the weight specs on it?
there should be any info of how many kg front and rears handle.
I emailed Vogtland shop where you bought your springs from and they don't reply to me those buggers!
can you ask them what's the difference between euro and US C43's?
And why these springs are not recommended for european c43's?
where are your pictures of your new drumsticks?
there should be any info of how many kg front and rears handle.
I emailed Vogtland shop where you bought your springs from and they don't reply to me those buggers!
can you ask them what's the difference between euro and US C43's?
And why these springs are not recommended for european c43's?
where are your pictures of your new drumsticks?
Here is a pic of the MB Arts rear adjustable camber arm:
