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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
From K-Mac the kit is $380 but its the shipping that gets you. They ship from australia so getting to the states isn't cheap.
depending on the currency fluxtuation ups n downs, Ozzy $ vs US $ dollars, it might get cheaper or more expensive?

Did you email KMac from Australia for shipping qoutes?

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Originally Posted by kowalski
depending on the currency fluxtuation ups n downs, Ozzy $ vs US $ dollars, it might get cheaper or more expensive?

Did you email KMac from Australia for shipping qoutes?
Yeah I contacted K-Mac directly...
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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UPDATE:

I posted before that I decided to go all out on the suspension to get that "new" feel back. I have purchased a new steering damper as well as a whole new drag link setup. This should refresh the feeling of my steering

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I am thinking about getting this kit but I am not sure if it is over kill plus I would imagine the adjustable camber arms I got will be replacing one of these components, what do you suspension gurus suggest?

I am looking at the meyle rear control arm kit, part #2103509999MY

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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Hi, why not check all the bushes and change if necessary. Arms don't need changing unless they are bent or seriously corroded.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
Hi, why not check all the bushes and change if necessary. Arms don't need changing unless they are bent or seriously corroded.
I figured it would be easier to replace the entire arm rather than remove the arm and install new bushings then re-install the arm, I do not have a press.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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No need for a press with K-Mac kits, they include a bush removal tool. This is used to pull out the old and pull in the new bushes where necessary.
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Originally Posted by Leeward
No need for a press with K-Mac kits, they include a bush removal tool. This is used to pull out the old and pull in the new bushes where necessary.
I'm talking about the rears, I do not have the K-Mac kit for the rears...
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 03:41 AM
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No need for a press with K-Mac kits, they include a bush removal tool. This is used to pull out the old and pull in the new bushes where necessary.
That's good to know. Thanks for the info
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Leeward
No need for a press with K-Mac kits, they include a bush removal tool. This is used to pull out the old and pull in the new bushes where necessary.
this bushing tool does it also remove the factory bushing when the arms are in place under the car?
no need to remove factory LCA from the car and use a press machine to pull the old ones out?
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this bushing tool does it also remove the factory bushing when the arms are in place under the car?
no need to remove factory LCA from the car and use a press machine to pull the old ones out?
A far as I know, it is impossible to remove the bushes with the wishbone in place on the chassis. You have to remove the spring (BIG danger without appropriate tools) and retaining bolt(s).
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Have a look at the image I attached to post #31 in this thread. The camber arms 503 has bought will replace item -4. All of the other pieces (with the exception of the control arm itself) are about $30-50 each. No point in replacing the bushings in them (IMO) as the arms are cheap enough to just throw them out and not worry about the hassle of pressing out bushings. And can you even buy all of those bushings separately anyway? Also, -2 on the hub side is a tie rod end, you can't replace that one really. Might have to be careful removing some of the bolts though. If they are really rusted or corroded (as one of mine was) you might have to cut it off and replace the bolt entirely.

For the KMac front...I dunno. I didn't think much of their bush extraction 'tool'. They supplied a portion of steel rod and some pipe. Their instructions specifically state that you would need to remove the control arm to install their bushings. But that's for the front only, the rear you could leave everything on there. As Leeward pointed out in post #33, the rear KMac kit replaces bushings on -4 and -2. Those arms are removed easily with just four fasteners, but it would be easier to press out the old bushings with a press.
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Originally Posted by Saaboteur
Have a look at the image I attached to post #31 in this thread. The camber arms 503 has bought will replace item -4. All of the other pieces (with the exception of the control arm itself) are about $30-50 each. No point in replacing the bushings in them (IMO) as the arms are cheap enough to just throw them out and not worry about the hassle of pressing out bushings. And can you even buy all of those bushings separately anyway? Also, -2 on the hub side is a tie rod end, you can't replace that one really. Might have to be careful removing some of the bolts though. If they are really rusted or corroded (as one of mine was) you might have to cut it off and replace the bolt entirely.

For the KMac front...I dunno. I didn't think much of their bush extraction 'tool'. They supplied a portion of steel rod and some pipe. Their instructions specifically state that you would need to remove the control arm to install their bushings. But that's for the front only, the rear you could leave everything on there. As Leeward pointed out in post #33, the rear KMac kit replaces bushings on -4 and -2. Those arms are removed easily with just four fasteners, but it would be easier to press out the old bushings with a press.
This is exactly why I was thinking about buying the kit instead of wasting my time replacing the bushings, again killing 2 birds with 1 stone with new control arms AND new bushings...

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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I have read all of the threads about sway bars for the C43 but none of them seem to come to a conclusion. I know there is an eibach kit, H&R kit, and I think the CLK55 sway bar will fit as well, perhaps we can have some of our resident experts answer this question:

Is there a better sway bar for the C43?
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I must admit that the standard set up does the work pretty good, but I have noticed when doing my favourite "twisties", there is a tendency to dip left and right in the corners. I would prefer having the front flatter in those instances, but apart from getting a custom item I don't think they exist on the performance market. I may be wrong though. It would also be interesting to see if the springs on the market (Vogts, H&R, Eibach, etc.) have a different compression rate than the OE ones. Any ideas or data out there?
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The H&R sway bar kit has a 28mm front sway bar and an 18mm rear sway bar, isn't this the same size in the rear and 1mm bigger in the front compared to the stock C43 sway bar?

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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
This is exactly why I was thinking about buying the kit instead of wasting my time replacing the bushings, again killing 2 birds with 1 stone with new control arms AND new bushings...
But how often will you replace them? The K-Mac adjustable bushes will outlast the OEM bushes quite readily.
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Originally Posted by Leeward
But how often will you replace them? The K-Mac adjustable bushes will outlast the OEM bushes quite readily.
Yeah, but KMac stuff at the rear will only replace a couple of those bushings per side, right? I don't believe KMac makes bushings for all of the arms.
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Yeah, but KMac stuff at the rear will only replace a couple of those bushings per side, right? I don't believe KMac makes bushings for all of the arms.
I was thinking the same thing...
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Yeah, but KMac stuff at the rear will only replace a couple of those bushings per side, right? I don't believe KMac makes bushings for all of the arms.
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I was thinking the same thing...
I imagine the KMac bushings replace those in places which are necessary for alignement adjustments
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Are the sway bar bushings different for the front and rear?
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^^^ No one knows the answer to this question?
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^^^ No one knows the answer to this question?
I just recieved h&r sway bars today.
I'll let you know in a sec.
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If you're talking about the bushings that hold the sway bars in the middle section, they are different. I think you already know that front sway bar diameter is 28mm and rear is 18mm, and the front bushings are much larger chunk than the rear ones. Rear bushing are only about 1/2 inch^3.
I've only checked the front box but it says its for both W202 and W208.
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