DRBC43AMG

Need the info too if possible, as I want to get an alignement done very soon. Just getting new set of PS2's Saturday

juice91si

Hope this helps someone, this is my alignment after installing eibach springs.

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KJI3jflarryfe93

why did your washers come mounted on both end heads on your camber arms?

my black camber arms didn't have the washers mounted on each end heads!!
I received loose washers on the side which I have to insert with the bolt?

503C43 ////AMG

Those are not mounted, I put them in and took a picture

Mine came just like yours did but mine were polished not black as they were having a special at the time and the polished are usually more expensive but I got them cheaper than the black ones cost

KJI3jflarryfe93

my washers came as 8 loose pcs in a fishnet holder looking like a long bullet,
I tried to attach each washer on the screw hole rod end by hand but didn't manage, do these washers go in by them self on each front/back side when tightening the bolt/nut and then sit snug in place?

I have to tell my mekanik what kind of lubricant should be applied when installing the camber arms to avoid squeeking noise when driving?
Is it good to use lithium grease or copper paste on the rod ends?
Those teflon/kevlar self lubricating rod ends are they sensitive ( going bad detoriating) to other chemical ressidue?


Is is necessary to use Loctite lock glue on the camber arm threads when adjusting the length of the rod ends?

Thanks for your help

503C43 ////AMG

The pieces came taped to my camber arms, when they are installed they will tighten up.

As far as grease or loctite I couldn't tell you as I had a shop install them but it sounds like you might want to find a different shop to install them as they should already know the answers to all of these questions.

I dropped off over 56 aftermarket suspension components to the shop I went to and they installed everything in 2 days with no questions asked. It's not like you are asking to install something that an experienced mechanic has never seen, these are camber arms...

KJI3jflarryfe93

long time ago I wrote that adjustable camber arms are not very common for MB cars in Sweden.
therefore no experiance about them!

I'm asking, if my mekanik use the wrong lube on the teflon/kevlar rod ends and by that way ruin the self lubricating rubbers?
which lube is the most harmless to teflon/kevlar bushings?

If he doesn't use any lube I might get annoying squeeks?
we don't want that!

DRBC43AMG

Look like these don't need any type of special lubrication and cheaper than what you can buy ready made
http://www.club202.com/forums/showth...ar-camber-arms

503C43 ////AMG

Just checked out the website and sure enough you can buy everything you need for $80 (the savemore code is expired and no longer works for the $5 discount)

I would imagine the camber arms from MBArts are WAY more durable and personally would feel more comfortable knowing that they have been tested, below are the MBArts and Speedway adjustable camber arm specs:

MBArts adjustable camber arm specs:

1" diameter 6061-T6 aircraft aluminum

• 74,000-78,000 psi tensile strength
• 63,000-69,000 psi yield strength

QA1 chromoly rod ends

• 17,955 lb. radial static load rating
• Ball specifications
  • Heat Treated alloy steel
  • Hard Chrome Plated
• Race specifications
  • Self-lubricating Teflon/Kevlar race

The MB Arts adjustable rear camber arms have several advantages over the stamped steel units from the factory:

• MB Arts adjustable rear camber arms are lighter and stronger than the OEM arms.
• MB Arts adjustable rear camber arms use bushings that last longer than the OEM rubber bushings. And if the rod ends wear out, you can replace them without replacing the entire camber arm.

Speedway DIY camber arm specs:

5/8" Tie Rod Sleeves are made out of 6061 -T6 aluminum. 7/8" O.D. 5/8" RH and LH fine threads

These Mr. Roadster rod ends come in either forged steel or fully polished investment cast stainless steel for superior strength and durability.All rod ends feature a 5/8"-18 threaded shank and the nylon bushing has a steel sleeve that accepts a 1/2" bolt. Choose from straight, 7° or 11° angled shanks with right hand threads.




So the MBArts camber arms are 1/8" thicker and have chromoly rod ends that have self lubricating teflon/kevlar

The DIY camber arms have either forged or investment cast steel rod ends

I can tell you (as I work in a steel foundry) that chromoly would be your first choice as it has incredible tensile and radial static load ratings

Forged steel would be your next choice as the steel is formed using extreme pressure which in turn makes it stronger than cast steel

Investment cast steel is just cast steel where the mold is usually made out of wax, this would produce a weaker form of steel than the forged method

Steel is a term used for a large family of metals, and consists of iron, carbon, and other materials such as aluminum etc...

Chromoly is a form of steel but is an alloy that consists mainly of chromium and molybdenum and is INCREDIBLY strong after heat treating

Another thing to note is many of the lower priced camber arms use inexpensive, hollow threaded aluminum or steel tubes, rather than a more expensive, solid T6061-T6 aluminum bar (like the MBArts camber arms use). Threaded tubes are made for sprint cars, not road use. And threaded tubes do not have the same strength rating that is required for daily drivers, which are heavier than sprint cars. In addition, threaded tubes are designed to collapse upon moderate impact to prevent damage to expensive suspension components. By using a threaded tube, you put yourself and your car at risk when doing something as common as driving over a pothole.


I question if those aluminum tubes on Speedway are hollow, I'm guessing they are...



Long story short these DIY camber arms might be sufficient for street use but I would go with either the MBArts or Speedybenz camber arms for piece of mind.

KJI3jflarryfe93

one of the dudes in this thread used white lithium grease when he installed his camber arms?
is it a good non harmful lubrication that lasts for long time when applied?