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Suspension for C43
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If you're talking about the bushings that hold the sway bars in the middle section, they are different. I think you already know that front sway bar diameter is 28mm and rear is 18mm, and the front bushings are much larger chunk than the rear ones. Rear bushing are only about 1/2 inch^3.
I've only checked the front box but it says its for both W202 and W208.
Hope I answered your question!! good luck!!
I've only checked the front box but it says its for both W202 and W208.
Hope I answered your question!! good luck!!
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this picture I've linked is this arm original factory camber arm being replaced with those adjustable camber arms from MB Arts?
http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_web...0/2103503406O/
this arm is the one behind the dustshield ontop of all other arms
http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_web...0/2103503406O/
this arm is the one behind the dustshield ontop of all other arms
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this picture I've linked is this arm original factory camber arm being replaced with those adjustable camber arms from MB Arts?
http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_web...0/2103503406O/
this arm is the one beind the dustshield ontop of all other arms
http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_web...0/2103503406O/
this arm is the one beind the dustshield ontop of all other arms
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Hi Kowalski, can you post a link to these parts? Txs
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start saving up some bux bud. 
this kit fits all W-zwei nul zwei.
http://cgi.ebay.de/FEBI-Quer-Zug-Sch...item588c9c6697
this kit fits all W-zwei nul zwei.
http://cgi.ebay.de/FEBI-Quer-Zug-Sch...item588c9c6697
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Please call for more information. I currently own a 98 C43 with 71,000 miles. It has eibach springs and koni shocks and sits a little low for my driving style. I bought new spring pads from mercedes before I realized they were the same size already in my car. If you do covert to a differant spring I would be interested in the origanals. 503 658-8371
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how difficult is it to replace the front subframe bushings?
I see they are bolted by a screw and a nut.
http://uk.mbspecialist.com/mercedes_...0/1243506408O/
is it necessary to remove lots of parts on the car to access these bushings?
Can they be chiseled out or is it necessary to use a press tool machine to take them out?
are they 2 or 4 bushings on front axle?
I see they are bolted by a screw and a nut.
http://uk.mbspecialist.com/mercedes_...0/1243506408O/
is it necessary to remove lots of parts on the car to access these bushings?
Can they be chiseled out or is it necessary to use a press tool machine to take them out?
are they 2 or 4 bushings on front axle?
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how difficult is it to replace the front subframe bushings?
I see they are bolted by a screw and a nut.
http://uk.mbspecialist.com/mercedes_...0/1243506408O/
is it necessary to remove lots of parts on the car to access these bushings?
Can they be chiseled out or is it necessary to use a press tool machine to take them out?
are they 2 or 4 bushings on front axle?
I see they are bolted by a screw and a nut.
http://uk.mbspecialist.com/mercedes_...0/1243506408O/
is it necessary to remove lots of parts on the car to access these bushings?
Can they be chiseled out or is it necessary to use a press tool machine to take them out?
are they 2 or 4 bushings on front axle?
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I believe there are four bushings on the rear subframe to where it bolts onto the chassis. There are two more that hold the diff in place. Kochtools.com has a tool for the diff bushings.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's going to be that easy to do those bushings. While the bushings themselves may be cheap, I think you're going to have to drop the whole subframe off the car to replace the bushings. And doing that means removing the diff and the axles too.
The Kochtools.com tool looks like it's made to remove the diff bushings without having to drop the subframe, but you'd still need to remove the diff to get at them. And even if you can chisel out the subframe bushings, you will most likely need a press to press the new ones in. The one bolt (per bushing) holds the subframe to the chassis, it doesn't bolt the bushing into the subframe.
I'd check the WIS for instructions to be sure though.
Edit: I just checked out the Klann tools website. They make a tool - part number KL-0356-11 - which allows removal and replacement of all four subframe mount bushings, plus the diff mounting bushings too, and they say you don't need to remove the rear subframe to do it either. But the kit uses a hydraulic cylinder to do the hard work. I think they have a kit without the cylinder though. If you don't wanna buy the tool, probably best to head to a specialist who already has the tool.
Here's the Koch Tools item:
http://www.kochtools.com/index.php?p=product&id=84
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's going to be that easy to do those bushings. While the bushings themselves may be cheap, I think you're going to have to drop the whole subframe off the car to replace the bushings. And doing that means removing the diff and the axles too.
The Kochtools.com tool looks like it's made to remove the diff bushings without having to drop the subframe, but you'd still need to remove the diff to get at them. And even if you can chisel out the subframe bushings, you will most likely need a press to press the new ones in. The one bolt (per bushing) holds the subframe to the chassis, it doesn't bolt the bushing into the subframe.
I'd check the WIS for instructions to be sure though.
Edit: I just checked out the Klann tools website. They make a tool - part number KL-0356-11 - which allows removal and replacement of all four subframe mount bushings, plus the diff mounting bushings too, and they say you don't need to remove the rear subframe to do it either. But the kit uses a hydraulic cylinder to do the hard work. I think they have a kit without the cylinder though. If you don't wanna buy the tool, probably best to head to a specialist who already has the tool.
Here's the Koch Tools item:
http://www.kochtools.com/index.php?p=product&id=84
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Hey Saabo.
Your reply was for the rear axel,
my question was for the front axle, if it's an easy change for these subframe bushes?
is it needy to remove several parts from the front axle to axess the front sub bushes?
Your reply was for the rear axel,
my question was for the front axle, if it's an easy change for these subframe bushes?
is it needy to remove several parts from the front axle to axess the front sub bushes?
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Dude, that link you posted is for the subframe bushings on the rear subframe, nearer to the front of the car (as opposed to the bushings on the rear subframe nearer to the back of the car), ie. front of the subframe, back of the subframe.
On the front of the car, the control arms bolt to the chassis directly, as do the engine mounts.
On the front of the car, the control arms bolt to the chassis directly, as do the engine mounts.
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I don't know either and I have been looking around with no success for the moment. I would also like to know.
Weird as the rear measurements says nothing for rear camber
Weird as the rear measurements says nothing for rear camber
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Hi Jason.
Kowalski aka Mr.D. from the land of lots of blond hoes n fly honeys.
How you doin?
Did you ever post the test results of the 4 wheel alignment when you did all suspension parts swap?
I wanna see what kind of scores U got with MB Arts camber arms.
I can't find the link!
Can you post it if you haven't done it?
Thanx bud.
Kowalski aka Mr.D. from the land of lots of blond hoes n fly honeys.
How you doin?
Did you ever post the test results of the 4 wheel alignment when you did all suspension parts swap?
I wanna see what kind of scores U got with MB Arts camber arms.
I can't find the link!
Can you post it if you haven't done it?
Thanx bud.
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Hi Jason.
Kowalski aka Mr.D. from the land of lots of blond hoes n fly honeys.
How you doin?
Did you ever post the test results of the 4 wheel alignment when you did all suspension parts swap?
I wanna see what kind of scores U got with MB Arts camber arms.
I can't find the link!
Can you post it if you haven't done it?
Thanx bud.
Kowalski aka Mr.D. from the land of lots of blond hoes n fly honeys.
How you doin?
Did you ever post the test results of the 4 wheel alignment when you did all suspension parts swap?
I wanna see what kind of scores U got with MB Arts camber arms.
I can't find the link!
Can you post it if you haven't done it?
Thanx bud.
One thing is for sure, I was WAY off of stock specs to begin with (probably due to needing an alignment for a while combined with the 19" rims I installed). I went and had my tires balanced 4 days ago and the difference is like night and day, the ride is SOOOO smooth now. I should have balanced the tires right after the alignment.
If you like I can post my alignment specs later when I get home.
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I never posted them, I had the shop align it based off of the stock C43 aligment specs set by AMG.
One thing is for sure, I was WAY off of stock specs to begin with (probably due to needing an alignment for a while combined with the 19" rims I installed). I went and had my tires balanced 4 days ago and the difference is like night and day, the ride is SOOOO smooth now. I should have balanced the tires right after the alignment.
If you like I can post my alignment specs later when I get home.
One thing is for sure, I was WAY off of stock specs to begin with (probably due to needing an alignment for a while combined with the 19" rims I installed). I went and had my tires balanced 4 days ago and the difference is like night and day, the ride is SOOOO smooth now. I should have balanced the tires right after the alignment.
If you like I can post my alignment specs later when I get home.
Did the stock factory specs and new specs for adjustable camber arms for the C43 show up on your sheet?
Your car was it set to stock factory numbers for your new camber arms when alignment was done?
Thanks bud
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They set my car on the alignment rack and documented where my settings were at at that time, then they set the alignment to the factory C43 specs. On my alignment sheet is shows where I was at, what the stock C43 specs are, and the alignment specs after they had adjusted everything.
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They set my car on the alignment rack and documented where my settings were at at that time, then they set the alignment to the factory C43 specs. On my alignment sheet is shows where I was at, what the stock C43 specs are, and the alignment specs after they had adjusted everything.
Das ist gut.
Danke dude
