I'm so pissed off! buyer beware!!
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Interesting, I still think I would have contacted Kleemann. I've got friends with $12k+ worth of Kleemann upgrades in each of their cars, and have had zero issues and excellent service. I'm getting ready to drop a chunk of change in my '55 as well...
From a pre-sales standpoint, I can't say enough good things about Cory. From 3rd hand, after-sales followup has been excellent as well.
From a pre-sales standpoint, I can't say enough good things about Cory. From 3rd hand, after-sales followup has been excellent as well.
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Or, KLEEMANN should make sure they have done the best job they can before their product leaves the factory. You dont hear of a tuner calling a customer back and telling the customer here is some money back, so why should the customer give the tuner a break!!! I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire, but i m sick of hearing of this BIG TUNER companies that get to charge whatever they want and than hear about cases like this!!!
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I don't plan on contacting Kleemann for this issue because there's nothing they can do. If I did contact them, they would have treated me like some punk trying to get some more discount on the headers and wouldn't even admit there were issues with their crap. I've already machined and re-surfaced the flanges and made the driver side header to clear the motor mount. The y-pipe for driver side will be fabricated to fit and maybe the down pipes needs some work too. I guess the quality control went down after the price drop.
I had similar problems with the flanges on my W210 Kleemann headers. Kleemann resolved the problem and send a new set with no hassle.
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post2431837
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I had similar problems with the flanges on my W210 Kleemann headers. Kleemann resolved the problem and send a new set with no hassle.
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post2431837
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post2431837
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whatever the reason or outcome, if a $1500 product looks like carlos esteves welded it while high and in a groupie.. i think i would've returned it rather than hacked the product.. at least from this thread cory seems to be willing to resolve the issue, unlike some other tuners i've seen where money is taken while product may or may not even be delivered.
on a lighter side of the conversation.. ur avatar only makes this statement funnier.
anyway.. gl with it!
anyway.. gl with it!
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I know I should have returned it for another one. Also, its correct about Cory trying to stand up for there product. Thats why I'm keeping my mouth shut even though there was more problem than I mentioned before. I dont want to say anything about the headers anymore.
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I don't plan on contacting Kleemann for this issue because there's nothing they can do. If I did contact them, they would have treated me like some punk trying to get some more discount on the headers and wouldn't even admit there were issues with their crap. I've already machined and re-surfaced the flanges and made the driver side header to clear the motor mount. The y-pipe for driver side will be fabricated to fit and maybe the down pipes needs some work too. I guess the quality control went down after the price drop.
I know I'm digging up an old thread here but I think Kleemann would have taken care of you. I had the same issues with my W210 headers and Kleemann exchanged them for me. But it really does suck that errors like this slip past the quality control. Especially when you have install appointments already set up and have to reschedule.
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I just bought some Kleemann headers that have the same short pipe as Motorsport3's had. Cory was up front about this issue and gave me a DEAL on my headers. I am taking them in today to be modified, total price headers + modification = less than $1000. I too will be swain coating mine before the install.
This is the mod I have been waiting a long time for, basically since I bought my car almost 2 years ago and now its almost here
This is the mod I have been waiting a long time for, basically since I bought my car almost 2 years ago and now its almost here
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Yea it still sucks that I had to modify mine as well as the drivers side was hitting one of my steering components as I made hard left u turns, Very annoying but I paid to have that fixed. Kleemann dropped the ball on the W202/208 headers.
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...... Kleemann of course is a very reputable company, but their headers are just not quite up there in quality compared to the rest of their products. I don't think it's intentional or bad faith. I have owned quite a few of these and finally replacing one with MBH headers after welding and re-welding and re-welding. Cory and everyone at Kleemann absolutely do try their best to take care of you, but after a while you, do worry that you might be creating the impression that you are looking for a discount. That's just normal human nature.
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...... Kleemann of course is a very reputable company, but their headers are just not quite up there in quality compared to the rest of their products. I don't think it's intentional or bad faith. I have owned quite a few of these and finally replacing one with MBH headers after welding and re-welding and re-welding. Cory and everyone at Kleemann absolutely do try their best to take care of you, but after a while you, do worry that you might be creating the impression that you are looking for a discount. That's just normal human nature.
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Thats what I worried about and didnt wanna look like a internet moron who bashes a product to get a discount. I do give a crap about the 2h labor money that I had to shell out just to make it possible to fit, but I didnt bother dealing with kleemann since i had an impression that they wouldnt do a thing about it. I bet they knew the headers won't fit without modification, but they never bothered to tell their customer and that was a good sign of their customer service. I'd rather burn my hard earned money than letting someone treat me like a sucker who would do anything for discount.
Just about everyone I know that has ordered the W202/208 headers has had to modify them for the steering ridiculous. Then the $ you pay for these things is incredible for the workmanship quality.
I spent so much damn time putting them on that I was not about to take them off and send them back.
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but I doubt they make the power they claim.
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Wow I thought kleemen was a good quality company I guess I was wrong. Im scared now I wanted to buy these headers for my car. Probably never going to do headers now. Just a C55 drop in one day ahh
