Brakes for the C43
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when i was looking there was no drilled rears i could find, the rear rotors cross over to many cars,
hoontastic, you know looking back i wish i would have never posted anything about brakes and let everyone whine about spending 500 dollars on front rotors, i spent many hours working on this package only to be slammed by guys that take their car to dealers, I have since found other parts that cross over thats save on pricey parts and have decided that there is no way that im letting the info out. Why, to go threw this crap again sorry not happening, sorry my c43 is my daily driver i have a 911 wide body with a big motor for fun and a race car for weekends.
again no one is twisting anyones arm on rotors, buy what you want, i for one dont care. I tried to help the community here not again
hoontastic, you know looking back i wish i would have never posted anything about brakes and let everyone whine about spending 500 dollars on front rotors, i spent many hours working on this package only to be slammed by guys that take their car to dealers, I have since found other parts that cross over thats save on pricey parts and have decided that there is no way that im letting the info out. Why, to go threw this crap again sorry not happening, sorry my c43 is my daily driver i have a 911 wide body with a big motor for fun and a race car for weekends.
again no one is twisting anyones arm on rotors, buy what you want, i for one dont care. I tried to help the community here not again
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C43K AMG 436 rwhp moded ML55 AMG 190td 190e 2.3-16v moded EK9 Civic
You should check the brim on your 334 discs. It is very small. In my opinion the 330 discs are too small.
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You mean Italia disc?
I tried to find out the manufacturer but I was not successful. But I don't think they are manufactured in Italy. They are not available in European market. Probably they are made in USA.
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You mean Italia disc?
I tried to find out the manufacturer but I was not successful. But I don't think they are manufactured in Italy. They are not available in European market. Probably they are made in USA.
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Tell me you are kidding.I just replaced the Disc Italia's upfront AND the rears and I am @ $750.00 (including shipping) - not including pads.I still have to send the rotors out to be cryogenically treated.I don't know how you reached the $1700.00 mark but you got raped.
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I am nearing the start of my brake project, this is what I have decided to do:
1.) Replace the front rotors with OEM rotors
2.) Have the rotors cryogenically treated
3.) Install Stoptech SS brake lines
4.) Install Akebono euro ceramic brake pads
5.) Replace the parking brake
6.) Complete fluid flush
7.) High temp brake fluid
I already have the SS brake lines and Akebono pads. The rotors are currently on their way to be cryogenically treated and the parking brake will be here in a couple days.
I should have everything I need in a week and I have set time aside on the 9th to do the project.
The next time I do my brakes I am going to look at upgrading but for the time being the stock system should do me fine.
1.) Replace the front rotors with OEM rotors
2.) Have the rotors cryogenically treated
3.) Install Stoptech SS brake lines
4.) Install Akebono euro ceramic brake pads
5.) Replace the parking brake
6.) Complete fluid flush
7.) High temp brake fluid
I already have the SS brake lines and Akebono pads. The rotors are currently on their way to be cryogenically treated and the parking brake will be here in a couple days.
I should have everything I need in a week and I have set time aside on the 9th to do the project.
The next time I do my brakes I am going to look at upgrading but for the time being the stock system should do me fine.
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I have a friend who is going to help me as I helped him with his brakes on his 325I 2 months ago. I am sure it is pretty straight forward, a couple months ago I took the wheel off and removed a caliper and the rest looked like any other brake job I have done for the most part.
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I have a friend who is going to help me as I helped him with his brakes on his 325I 2 months ago. I am sure it is pretty straight forward, a couple months ago I took the wheel off and removed a caliper and the rest looked like any other brake job I have done for the most part.
You may also want to break out the GTech BEFORE you do the brakes and do three 60-0 passes (waiting a several minutes between passes - thin pads retain a lot of heat), and recording the distances. AFTER you do the brakes and bed in the pads, do the same. That may tell you something.
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You'll find the brakes to be dead simple.
You may also want to break out the GTech BEFORE you do the brakes and do three 60-0 passes (waiting a several minutes between passes - thin pads retain a lot of heat), and recording the distances. AFTER you do the brakes and bed in the pads, do the same. That may tell you something.![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
You may also want to break out the GTech BEFORE you do the brakes and do three 60-0 passes (waiting a several minutes between passes - thin pads retain a lot of heat), and recording the distances. AFTER you do the brakes and bed in the pads, do the same. That may tell you something.
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That's just a good way to let you know what the difference is. Sort of like doing qtr mile passes and checking the trap speeds - then doing an upgrade and checking the trap speeds again. As long as the outside temps are about the same when you do the brake test, you'll know whats what.
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99 c43 / 99 ml430
forgive me if this material is well known but these stoptech whitepapers are a good read..
also, is 'Balo' a reputable brand? These "05' c230k sport" cross drilled & vented front rotors are only $89/ea
I guess these are the same ones that are @ autohaus..
also, is 'Balo' a reputable brand? These "05' c230k sport" cross drilled & vented front rotors are only $89/ea
I guess these are the same ones that are @ autohaus..
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That's just a good way to let you know what the difference is. Sort of like doing qtr mile passes and checking the trap speeds - then doing an upgrade and checking the trap speeds again. As long as the outside temps are about the same when you do the brake test, you'll know whats what.
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forgive me if this material is well known but these stoptech whitepapers are a good read..
also, is 'Balo' a reputable brand? These "05' c230k sport" cross drilled & vented front rotors are only $89/ea
I guess these are the same ones that are @ autohaus..
also, is 'Balo' a reputable brand? These "05' c230k sport" cross drilled & vented front rotors are only $89/ea
I guess these are the same ones that are @ autohaus..
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99 c43 / 99 ml430
So I'm thinking of being a third wheel at your brake job on the 9th - you guys want company? Never done brakes so it would be a good learn for me.
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You are more than welcome to join,
The 9th is not set in stone yet as I am still working out a time with my buddy that works for him, as soon as I nail down a date and time I will let you know.
Really I don't need him to help, it just makes things easier. If he can't commit to a time maybe you can help me instead
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Once you see how easy it is you will wonder why people pay to have their brakes done. Only real issues I have ever ran into is seized bolts due to the heating and cooling from the brakes. If you have all of the right tools you can change out your front brakes in an hour or less.
I will keep you posted
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99 c43 / 99 ml430
I will totally help you with your brakes. I want to do mine. If all goes well then I can move on to the 4500lb beast later in the summer.
I'm going totally cheap skate on my brakes.. ala outlaw style. Once you have your fancy brakes and I have my cheap ******* brakes.. we should totally benchmark our stop distances side by side. See how many feet you were able to shave off.
I'm going totally cheap skate on my brakes.. ala outlaw style. Once you have your fancy brakes and I have my cheap ******* brakes.. we should totally benchmark our stop distances side by side. See how many feet you were able to shave off.
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99 c43 / 99 ml430
yeah exactly.. its just like changing plugs on the c43 is going to be simple now that i did the ML. Looking forward to leveling up with the brakes.
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Learning how to do your brakes will save you hundreds just in labor never mind buying your own parts at a cheaper rate than a mechanic charges.
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yeah the ML gives me lots of opportunities to try and save money on repair costs ![Wink](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
There are a couple plugs next to the firewall on the ML which are trickier to reach.
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There are a couple plugs next to the firewall on the ML which are trickier to reach.
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the engine bay is smaller on the c43 but the ML is tall and you really have to stand on something.. gets hard on your back.. I imagine with the c43 at least you can just lean in.
I'm at 97k miles so plugs are fast approaching..
I'm at 97k miles so plugs are fast approaching..