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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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Okay, this is embarrassing, but...

I have actually never worked with floating calipers until now; all my brake work were on fixed. Anyone have any links to c43/e55 front brake removal? From what I gather, I have to remove the two pins that hold the caliper to the caliper mount with a 7mm allen bolt, THEN take off the two mounting bolts with a 19mm socket?
looks like you would need 18mm not 19. A lot of socket sets skip 18mm.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thepinoc
Thanks for the advice and links! Unfortunately now I have to get a 7mm allen bolt now, as the keys are definitely not strong enough. The work will continue tomorrow! Until then, my car will be sitting on jack stands
I have the allen socket set now, but I didn't when I changed the brakes and bearing. I used the standard keys like you but I attached a large vice grip to the short end and turned (the long end goes onto the caliper pins). This and some pb blaster did the trick for me.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by eundaddy
looks like you would need 18mm not 19. A lot of socket sets skip 18mm.
Yea, I'm sort of confused here. two different 18mm sockets do not fit, but a 19mm is slightly too big at the same time? It fits, but is just a tad loose too... Did MB ever make 18.5mm bolts? lmao
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thepinoc
Yea, I'm sort of confused here. two different 18mm sockets do not fit, but a 19mm is slightly too big at the same time? It fits, but is just a tad loose too... Did MB ever make 18.5mm bolts? lmao
are you using 6 pt or 12 pt? im pretty sure it's supposed to be 18mm.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eundaddy
are you using 6 pt or 12 pt? im pretty sure it's supposed to be 18mm.
6 point: 18mm does not fit, and while 19mm does, there is a teeny bit of room for play.

12 point: 18mm does not fit, and 19mm will spin if too much pressure is applied.

Hmm, going to have to look into this some more tomorrow...
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by thepinoc
6 point: 18mm does not fit, and while 19mm does, there is a teeny bit of room for play.

12 point: 18mm does not fit, and 19mm will spin if too much pressure is applied.

Hmm, going to have to look into this some more tomorrow...
If I remember correctly I used a 19mm and it had a tiny bit of play...
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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Ok so I read through this whole thread coz the time has come for me to replace my rotors


"thepinoc" did those 2005 330mm c230k sport rotors work out fine for you and did you need any modifications done in order to install them?


Thats all I need to know......
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Thread revival time!

Ordered and just received from autohausaz a pair of 2005 c230k 330mm sport rotors (2034211312) and mintex pads (MDB1746), as it's time to replace the fronts; a HUGE lip has formed, and detailed pics are to follow when I install them tomorrow.

Doing more research, there are a few slight discrepancies between the OEM c43 rotors and the c230k sport rotors, but that was expected, now wasn't it? Just for posterity, let's list the known differences:

1. c230k rotors are 330mm diameter vs c43 rotors at 334mm diameter. Hoping there will be no unexpected problems down the line with the 4mm missing.
2. c230k rotor thickness is 28mm vs c43 rotors at 32mm. Slightly concerned about this, will brake pedal feel be affected? I'll assume there should be more pedal travel before braking occurs.
3. c230k rotors are both drilled and vented vs c43 rotors which are only vented. As i recall though, drilled has just about no benefit whatsoever, and is purely cosmetic. They sure do look good though
4. c230k rotor weight: 9.62 kg vs c43 rotor weight: 9.56 kg. Difference of .62kg, quite negligable.







Thoughts and opinions?
Hi thepinoc,

How did these rotors work out on your car?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Hi thepinoc,

How did these rotors work out on your car?
Full bolt-on and plug-n-play with absolutely no problems My initial worries were completely baseless.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Well I was gonna go with some R1 Concepts slotted at some point, but unfortunately, found out that my front rotors have less than 3mm of usable thickness left and I'm short on cash, so my hand is being forced. I'm gonna order the C230K rotors for the front. Thankfully, I found them at $58/pop!

http://www.autobrakecenter.com/index...ducts_id=15982


Still not a fan of the reduced thickness though. 28mm to 32.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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i went with the 330mm rotors and the car stops well.. fwiw.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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i went with the 330mm rotors and the car stops well.. fwiw.
Glad to hear it. Sounds like everyone who's gone with the C230K rotors has had no issues.

Quick question about rear rotors though: do you need to do anything regarding the parking brake when you take the rotors off? Gonna do the rears in a month or so.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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I had just gotten the car and was moving so I had an Indy do it.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:34 AM
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Glad to hear it. Sounds like everyone who's gone with the C230K rotors has had no issues.

Quick question about rear rotors though: do you need to do anything regarding the parking brake when you take the rotors off? Gonna do the rears in a month or so.
No major problem. Just need to loosen the adjustement scew throught one of the lug holes. Check the shoes and if not too rusty, just clean all around, put a bit of grease on moving parts and leave them alone. They have practically never no wear, not unless you drive with the hand(foot) brake on
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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3 days after I ordered, these babies arrived! Best $130 I ever spent!
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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3 days after I ordered, these babies arrived! Best $130 I ever spent!
Where did you order those from.......
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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Where did you order those from.......
Well if you read my post above (#161), you'd saw the link.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Alright guys, I'm new to floating calipers and am also stuck. I removed the 2 retaining pins and the 2 bolts. Now I've read your guys' DIY links and whatnot and all of you refer to sliding off the caliper. Either I'm doing it wrong or there's a certain way to slide it off. My father can't even do it.

Any tips?

Note: Front calipers
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by importfan21
Alright guys, I'm new to floating calipers and am also stuck. I removed the 2 retaining pins and the 2 bolts. Now I've read your guys' DIY links and whatnot and all of you refer to sliding off the caliper. Either I'm doing it wrong or there's a certain way to slide it off. My father can't even do it.

Any tips?

Note: Front calipers
Are the pads out? If so i have no idea. If not it's usually just a pretty tight squeeze. I usually have to get a rubber mallet and/or a piece of wood and bang up on the ends of the caliper, side by side, and wiggle it off
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Are the pads out? If so i have no idea. If not it's usually just a pretty tight squeeze. I usually have to get a rubber mallet and/or a piece of wood and bang up on the ends of the caliper, side by side, and wiggle it off
No, pads are not out. Rotor spins freely.

Guess I'll bust out the rubber mallet...


Edit: Got it off! Ended up being a LOT of pasty gunk on the mounting bracket where the caliper and bracket meet (on the inside side of the rotor), which apparently prevented the caliper from coming off with any normal/slightly-above-normal amount of force. Ended up prying the caliper from the mounting bracket from both top and bottom (left and right?) sides with screwdrivers little by little until it came off.

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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by importfan21
No, pads are not out. Rotor spins freely.

Guess I'll bust out the rubber mallet...


Edit: Got it off! Ended up being a LOT of pasty gunk on the mounting bracket where the caliper and bracket meet (on the inside side of the rotor), which apparently prevented the caliper from coming off with any normal/slightly-above-normal amount of force. Ended up prying the caliper from the mounting bracket from both top and bottom (left and right?) sides with screwdrivers little by little until it came off.
This is what I had to do as well. Had 119,000 with the stock Jurids and they still had a little meat left but they did not want to come off. Since I was changing the rotors it made it real easy as I just used the rotor as leverage.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 01:55 AM
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I was one of the first to do this conversion, by tracking down the dimensions. I will say that i have 15k miles with no problems, i believe they stop as good or not better then the oe rotors and they just look cool, Cheers, Outlaw
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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I think the "R129 SL500/600 98-2002 #: "129 421 21 12 or 23 12" are a closer measurements , if we need to replace ours.., but its little

heavier & needs some little mods. for the Pads isn’t ....??

ZAYED,,

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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Well if you read my post above (#161), you'd saw the link.
Its karma...if you weren't sarcastic the rotors would have came off much easier.
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