tip-tronic in pre-2000 models
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From: A.D., U.A.E
2000 (W202 C200) & 2000 (W202 C55)
I can’t confirm to you about the part #, even if i give it to you, sometimes MB replacing some of their parts during the production line,,
cause they had an agreement with a companies that responsible to create any parts they need....
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cause they had an agreement with a companies that responsible to create any parts they need....
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C43 AMG
Wouldn't it be best just to try everything before ripping wiring out am sure no damage will be done. If everything works then great if it doesn't then it could be two things one wiring two valve body what you think?
I was tracing wires which go to the TCU it wont be easy changing wiring harness. Am still confused where the wires goes for gear display? Do they go from shifter to gauge cluster or from TCU to gauge cluster?
I was tracing wires which go to the TCU it wont be easy changing wiring harness. Am still confused where the wires goes for gear display? Do they go from shifter to gauge cluster or from TCU to gauge cluster?
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From: A.D., U.A.E
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I called my friend yesterday to bring his car here,, unfortunate his out of country week ago,
i need to confirm that to you, but i can’t in this moment....
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i need to confirm that to you, but i can’t in this moment....
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From: A.D., U.A.E
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Thankss for a pics.,
Can’t tell for sure what’s the part # from the second pic(not that clear).,,
Anyway: I think the part # is "04 54 or 08 24", and both #s is OK,,
Can that seller confirm to you, if this unit working or not.....!?!
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Can’t tell for sure what’s the part # from the second pic(not that clear).,,
Anyway: I think the part # is "04 54 or 08 24", and both #s is OK,,
Can that seller confirm to you, if this unit working or not.....!?!
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From: seattle
1990 300ce supercharged and intercooled
The tiptronic shifter is a control module that sends out signals on the CAN bus. It gets a signal from the stop lamp switch for park interlock. Direct wire. It also gets a message from the EIS for key on. It does not directly wire to the tcu or the instrument cluster. It sends out a message for position. The respective modules that want that take it in and use it accordingly.
The tcu will actually have fewer wires going to it. On the connector on the power side that the old shifter wired to it will only have power and ground and diagnostic line to the obd plug.
The other connector will stay the same. CAN and the wires to the transmission.
You need to get a wiring diagram and hook up the wires for the shifter accordingly.
The tcu will actually have fewer wires going to it. On the connector on the power side that the old shifter wired to it will only have power and ground and diagnostic line to the obd plug.
The other connector will stay the same. CAN and the wires to the transmission.
You need to get a wiring diagram and hook up the wires for the shifter accordingly.
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From: seattle
1990 300ce supercharged and intercooled
OK here is the shifter pinout.
Pin 1, kickdown switch pin 1. bk/wh
Pin 4, ground.
Pin 2, circuit 58d. Comes from either the cluster pin 6 connector 2L after 06/00 and lower control panel pin 1 connector 1 previous years.
Pin 10, backup lamp output.
Pin 9, power to stop back up lamp . 12vlts
Pin 5, to stop lamp switch Pin3
Pin 8, circuit 30 in from fuse box.
PIn 7, Can low green.
Pin 6, Can high Gr/Wh
Pin 3, to diagnosic connector, obd2 pin 12.
ETC connector 2.
Pin 30, ground.
PIn 29 12vlt power.
PIn 7, goes to Pin 3 at the shifter and pin 12 at the obd2. The same one to the obd2 plug.
Pin 1, wh/gr to pin 10 of obd.
ETC connector 1 will not change.
Pin 1, kickdown switch pin 1. bk/wh
Pin 4, ground.
Pin 2, circuit 58d. Comes from either the cluster pin 6 connector 2L after 06/00 and lower control panel pin 1 connector 1 previous years.
Pin 10, backup lamp output.
Pin 9, power to stop back up lamp . 12vlts
Pin 5, to stop lamp switch Pin3
Pin 8, circuit 30 in from fuse box.
PIn 7, Can low green.
Pin 6, Can high Gr/Wh
Pin 3, to diagnosic connector, obd2 pin 12.
ETC connector 2.
Pin 30, ground.
PIn 29 12vlt power.
PIn 7, goes to Pin 3 at the shifter and pin 12 at the obd2. The same one to the obd2 plug.
Pin 1, wh/gr to pin 10 of obd.
ETC connector 1 will not change.
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From: A.D., U.A.E
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The tiptronic shifter is a control module that sends out signals on the CAN bus. It gets a signal from the stop lamp switch for park interlock. Direct wire. It also gets a message from the EIS for key on. It does not directly wire to the tcu or the instrument cluster. It sends out a message for position. The respective modules that want that take it in and use it accordingly.
The tcu will actually have fewer wires going to it. On the connector on the power side that the old shifter wired to it will only have power and ground and diagnostic line to the obd plug.
The other connector will stay the same. CAN and the wires to the transmission.
You need to get a wiring diagram and hook up the wires for the shifter accordingly.
The tcu will actually have fewer wires going to it. On the connector on the power side that the old shifter wired to it will only have power and ground and diagnostic line to the obd plug.
The other connector will stay the same. CAN and the wires to the transmission.
You need to get a wiring diagram and hook up the wires for the shifter accordingly.
I think that describe that swap NOT success in my car,, but its working great in my friend car,
I believe some models coming with a CAN bus which directly takes a new data from the Tip shifter goes to the ECU>>>TCU.....
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From: A.D., U.A.E
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That could helpFUL with a models which can except the signals of the CAN bus to the ECU.....
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